Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by a.ratchasi
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Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by a.ratchasi
Can Law teach responsibility? Legalizing something or alternatively, making something illegal can only impose controls over our actions, but they can do nothing to instill any responsibility in us. And unless we learn that responsibility, we don't really become civilized.
Almost everything seems to be a two-edged sword these days! Gun control, abortion, euthanasia, cloning...on the one hand, there are the dreadful consequences of making these legal (they already are in some countries), at the same time, they can also become vital necessities in some cases. The whole problem with all these is it is so subjective!
AR, you made a statement...
But in the end, what does it say? Can every instance of abortion be taken to court and decided there? The whole idea of legalizing something takes out the subjectivity of it. Here you take up both the sides and say, denying is a crime, as also allowing it!Quote:
In the heartwrenching scenarios highlighted by you and and PP maam, ssanjinika, denying abortion itself will be a crime.
However, when abortion is used to accomodate one's life style, the answer is definitely no to legalising!!
I'm not blaming you, just wanted to point out that the common man/woman is himself/herself not sure of what the right course is! How then can the courts decide, one way or the other?
And so the battle rages on! If only man learnt responsibility!!!
Wait a minute....on second thoughts, maybe abortion should be made illegal except when
a) The child is afflicted with genetic or other abnomalities which will make it a liability both to the parents and itself
b) The child is a product of non-consensual union eg Rape
What other scenarios can we think of?
A woman doesnot want a child. But a mistake (of not taking enough precausion) resulted in pregnancy.
Why shouldn't she get Abortion?
Why is abortion legaly or moraly wrong?
Well, Sandeep, the reason for it being considered "wrong" has already been discussed several times in this and other related threads - that it is tantamount to murder of another human being.
Murder, for whatever reason, is still punishable by law, and the anti-abortionists use the same logic to apply for this as well.
Well said, Badri... :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by sbadri99
CAUTION: Extremely disturbing pictures!
DO NOT click on links unless you want to be haunted for the rest of your lives.
All ladies in fact, are discouraged from seeing these frames.
Click on the links at your OWN RISK.
Aborted fetus at 9 weeks:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/resour...week/01_09.jpg
Aborted fetus at 10 weeks: http://www.priestsforlife.org/resour...week/01_10.jpg
Aborted fetus at 22 weeks: http://www.priestsforlife.org/resour...week/01_22.jpg
Aborted fetus at 24 weeks: http://www.priestsforlife.org/resour...week/01_24.jpg
Source & for more images: http://www.priestsforlife.org/resour...s/archive1.htm
These pictures are graphic. They are not pleasant to look at. They are not suitable for children. If you are squemish, or just don't want to subject yourself to this kind of unpleasantness, then don't go down the page.
http://members.tripod.com/~foxielady/abpics.htm
http://abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html
http://abortionno.org/Resources/inProgress.html
Nov,
I couldn't make up mind to see any more than the first 2 pics...
The total impression the present scenario creates is huan life has become cheap, like all our use-& throw utilities! Life is no more precious.
The "awe" associated with conceiving a child closely knit with sexual union & the sanction of marriage for it is all gone! No planning, no contemplation, no visualisation of conception in the minds of present day youth is very saddening.
Is it such a trivial matter? When conception is no more a serious event automatically abortion fails to be a serious affair.
The condom originally invented for birth control is now the widely recommended "safety" tool made easily available in even universities! Similarly abortion is an easy way out for "uncivilised", beastlike people who will copulate when & where & with whomever their impulse leads to.
There is a surplus of choices, options today, ironically debasing us instead of making us a finer, more sensitive, more intelligent, more civilised people.
If you take the "Murder" logic, then how do you say that in some cases abortion is ok. There is no circumstance where Murder can be justifiedQuote:
Originally Posted by sbadri99
a) Pregnency dangerous to mother - Murder for the sake of saving another life (and at that without getting permission for the person dieing) is immoral. As you would know a doctor will not take the husbands single kidney (means he doesnt have two kidneys) to save his wives life, even if the husband agrees.
As of now doctors are allowed to kill the feotus against the mothers wish if thats the only way to save mothers life. But with this new aproach even with mothers consent you cannot.
b) Rape - How do you Murder someone because others raped or got raped.
c) Abnormality - Its for the person who has the abnormality to decide and not his mother or father.
The moment you give full human status to the foetus (Nov's pictured where very convinsing) you are infact giving "it" (or "him/her") all legal and moral rights of a full human being and citizen. The earlier examples are just a precursur to the enormace adverse impact that decision will have.
I stand by the statement made by me. What you have elaborated, is what I have stated, albeit in a nutshell.Quote:
Originally Posted by badri
Bulls eye, Badri!!Quote:
Wait a minute....on second thoughts, maybe abortion should be made illegal except when
a) The child is afflicted with genetic or other abnomalities which will make it a liability both to the parents and itself
b) The child is a product of non-consensual union eg Rape
See, the common man/woman, are not so undecided afterall. :)
It is the matter of seeing both sides of the coin and wishing for the best possible outsome, albeit with discretion.
When a man kills another, is that man sent to the gallows without a hearing?
Murder is illegal, am I not right?
At the end of the day, it is discretion (his mental state, in self-defence, culpable homoside) that decides whether the man walks away scotfree or spends his rest of the in life in prison.
Just because the common men and women might seemingly 'fight' for certain issues to be made illegal, it does not mean we are detached to the plight of those who need compassion the most.