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"if people still have any doubt(s) whatsoever regarding IR's BGM abilities, watch any movie in the last 10 years, which had a very good storyline/plot, excellent performances and technically brilliant but music my someone other than IR"
well mr.tmrrmt, i can give u 25 such xamples......i dunt know whether u have heard Bombay, Uyire, Minsara Kanavu, Duet, 7G Rainbow colony, Alaipauthey, Rythm,Desam bgms.....i think Desam's bgms are as good as any IR's bgms........YSR's 7g was also master class,VS's Paarthiban Kanavu was also good....... still IR scores over ARR in this field but it is stretching a bit far when ppl. say "there is noone else other than IR in BGMs section".......
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Maddy,
The difference between BGM of IR and others is that they dont create memorable BGMs that often. BGMs are not heard as frequently as a song and are not easily accessible. To score a point in this section and that too quite often emphasises what IR is all about? Sometimes you can identify characters with the BGM. Mahendran said in one interview that one can identify the characters and meeting between two characters by just listening to the BGM from outside the cinema hall. It differs from movie to movie, but the impact lasts longer.
BGMs of others which were apt. The best of ARR in tamil would be Kannathil Muthamittal, thats music for the movie and is pretty good.
Vatsa
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Mr.Maddy - "Bombay" and "Uyire" - let us take "Bombay" first - can you name one BGM piece from the entire film that fit in with the development of a character or a sequence - the theme music was just OK - but the rest of the themes - none of them made an impact for one to remember the same once outside the cinema hall
In "uyire", there were a couple of interesting strings based BGM scores, especially when SRK follows MK (or was it the other way around) - besides them, I can't recollect a BGM piece specific to Uyire that stayed in mind - for that matter, except Roja, neither Bombay nor Uyire impressed me as movies in the first place
I can give 'n' number of reasons as to why and how IR scores over others in the BGM area, but the one major reason is that IR's BGM is movie specific, plot specific, character specific and still creative enough for us to take notice! ARR took a long time to graduate to some reasonably acceptable level of BGM scoring only in 'Kannathhil Mutthhamittaal' - much of his BGM scoring was confined to vocal screams and whines
Most significant and relevant is IR's understanding of SILENCE and its importance - he knows exactly where there ought to be a BGM and where it is not required - in many of the movies, you wouldn't even realise that it is his BGM that elevates the mood of the film, because it is scored in a way that makes it inseparable from the film!
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examples for the character specific themes - Johnny theme for the bond between Sreedevi and Rajini, theme for the bond between Kamal and Saranya (that theme alone used to send goose bumps along our spines when 'Nayagan' was released), the theme specific for the bond between Nagarjuna and Amala in 'Shiva',
the 'Aan Paavam' love theme, Varusham 16 theme, and Whew!! I can go on
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I was listening to the "three in one" which was part of Raja's Italy concert. Would be a great BGM piece, wish IR uses it in his movies for appreciation from the wider audience
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"let us take "Bombay" first - can you name one BGM piece from the entire film that fit in with the development of a character or a sequence - the theme music was just OK -"
Height of IR bias!
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well okkk guys......i accept IR is the best and nobody else can even "think" of giving better bgms than him.....his bgms are flawless and the small doubt that i had abt his happy/chirpy bgms is also cleared by listening to the movies listed by u guys which makes IR nuthin less than a living musical institution....whew....cool..... :D
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see guys, i cud have xplained some of ARR's gr8 bgms like Screaming sound when Mk sees raam mandir movement in market, Vinmeenkalai thandi bgm piece in Uyire, sweet memories bgm piece where ash and prashant romance in jeans, sanskrit recitation in mudhalvan, and SRK's entry scene bgm in desam but again the arguement was y is it that IR's sober bgms are more famous than his chirpy bgm's...........
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IR's best BGM should be for Veedu - HTNI track. It conveyed Melancholy so effectively. And ARR's Bombay Theme is no less than IR's HTNI. In fact BT had all the subtle variations HTNI had. Calling it ordinary should be the Joke of the century
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There was a mention about Illayaraja's "Insight about characters". I would like to add, it is also intuitiveness about even hidden , not so apparent nuamces in a movie. A classic example would be the last nadhaswaram piece in the film "Engeyo ketta kural" at Ambika's death bed scene. One would expect a soga shenoy blaring at high pitch. But the viewers were pleasantly taken aback by the mangalakaramaana nadhaswaram . This is to indicate , the female character had attained immortality and all the smear on her life have been cleansed when her own husband believes her purity.
Only in her death, her marriage gets the due sanctity.
The same nadhaswaram was also used in a contrasting situation when Ambika leaves her husband and child. This again shows her crossing the marital boundary. What cannot be explained in many words have been cryptically depicted by his bgm.
