Blind worshipping of Thamizh cinema rasigan

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Originally Posted by selvakumar

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Originally Posted by thamiz

Some rajni fans want to use Rajni for their advantage!
Are they BLIND?! :lol:

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thamiz,
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Viv was referring to > aama illa - intha kelvikku answer. Fans generally want their star to reach a level above the current position. Avanga nenappu thappu illai. But interest irukka illayaannu sollurathu ovvoru nadigaroda kadamai...mathavangalukku sollattiyum rasigargal kitta mattum sollalaam.. illaya ? :)

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Selva:

I am talking in general. I dont think it is obligation.

I laugh at critics like ngAni and chAru when they talk what rajni should do and all!

Are they going to listen what rajni says as they should do? :lol:

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Originally Posted by thamiz

Selva:
I am talking in general. I dont think it is obligation.
I laugh at critics like ngAni and chAru when they talk what rajni should do and all!
Are they going to listen what rajni says as they should do? :lol:

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Inga thaan difference irukku... I think it is an obligation. fansukkavathu.. neenga illenun sollureenga.. sari irukkattum.

<dig> leaving for the day.. :wave: </dig>

Kuselan issue: It was the fans who went mad and asked rajini to remove the scenes. as far as I can see its us, the fans who are trying to gain some mileage out of making rajini the CM. What i fail to understand is none of the rajini fans are claiming that rajini manipulates us :lol: My last post on this issue :sigh2:

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

This incident apart - I am a fan of no actor - However I have friends who are fans of Rajini and Kamal and some younger actors. I see them being more balanced about reality and life - The earlier trend of seeing fan base as vote bank has been baulked by both these actors and as a result the number of people who have wasted their lives on being 'fans' has not been as huge as anyone looking from outside would want to believe. Both Rajini and Kamal have consistently asked their fans to be committed to their family and do good to their immediate community and nothing beyond that. In short - inspite of the stupidity of the fans(dreaming of political presence), the maturity of both these actors in not expoliting them stands out.

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Jaiganes,
This is steeped in condescension. Do you really mean to say that "they" -- those fans of that actor (whoever it is) -- need (or needed in the past) to get a better grip of "reality and life" while you and I (err, not sure if I qualify) do? For some reason, I'm reminded of 'subramaNiyapuram'.

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Originally Posted by Nerd

selva, idhu enna kadala mittAyA, venum/venaam-nu solla?? Rajini has interest, but not ready to take the plunge yet. I mean he shudders to think about the possibility of losing. And I repeat, rajini fans (who are still registered, after the PMK sweep) now will be happy with whatever rajini decides and we don't need IIIrd party advises/sympathies!!!!

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y cant rajini get this across to his fans atleast......look, i have the interest, but let me wait for time and place to do it or i might drop the idea totally........i think his fans, one of the most loyal ones in history, deserve this explanation atleast........

but i wont go to the extent of calling him selfish and being manipulative but his indecisiveness is certainly irritating......

I am not getting into this discussion in spite of NOV wanting me to do (or clear some thing) because I feel that this topic (in spite of its good intentions) is not relevant to the Hub. Where 99% of hubbers are empolyed with many of them taking up postings in off shore, blind worship or not is not going to make any difference to their lives.

Jaiganesh,

On the other hand this question should be addressed to the constituency which is wasting their lives but unfortunately they are outside the perview of the hub. But remember one thing, they also will move away. ஆராதிக்கப்படுபவனும் அவனை ஆராதிப்பவனும் மாறுவார்களேயன்றி, ஆராதனை தொடரும். 1950-களில் இருந்து திரையுலகை பார்த்தால் நான் சொல்லுவது உங்களுக்கு புரியும்.

நான் இந்த திரிக்கு வந்தது ஒரு சில விஷயங்களில் to set the record straight.

ரஜினியின் பா.மா.கா. எதிர்ப்பு பற்றிய சரியான தகவல்கள் இதோ.

2002 - ஆகஸ்ட் - ரஜினியின் திரைப்படங்களில் புகை பிடிக்கும் காட்சிகளை பற்றியும் அது இளைய தலைமுறையிடம் ஏற்படுத்தும் பாதிப்பு பற்றி மருத்துவர் தமிழ் குடி தாங்கி பேச, அதற்கு ரஜினி பதில் கூறுகிறார்.

அதே மாதம் பாபா ரிலீஸ் - பா.மா.க ஆதரவு பகுதிகளில் படத்திற்கு சிக்கல் ஏற்படுத்தப்படுகிறது. பிறகு அமைதியாகிறது.

2002 - அக்டோபர் மாதம் காவிரி பிரச்சனை. நெய்வேலியில் போராட்டம். ரஜினி மீது பாரதிராஜா தாக்குதல்.

மறு நாள் சென்னை சேப்பாக்கத்தில் ரஜினி உண்ணாவிரதம். கவர்னரை சந்தித்து நதிகள் இணைப்பிற்கு ஒரு கோடி கொடுப்பதாக அறிவிப்பு.

இதற்கு பிறகு 18 மாதங்கள் கழித்து 2004 - மே மாதம் பாராளுமன்ற தேர்தல். ஏப்ரல் மாதம் மதுரைக்கு பிரச்சாரத்திற்கு வரும் ராமதாசிற்கு யானைக்கல் அண்ணா சிலையருகே ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள் கருப்பு கொடி காண்பிக்கிறார்கள். ராமாதாசின் காருக்கு பின்னால் வந்த வாகனங்களிருந்து வெளிப்படும் "தொண்டர்கள்" ரஜினி ரசிகர்களை கடுமையாக தாக்குகிறார்கள். 10 பேர் ஆஸ்பத்திரியில் அனுமதி.

காயப்பட்டவர்களை சென்னைக்கு வரவழைக்கும் ரஜினி, பா.மா.க தாக்கியதற்கு கண்டனம் தெரிவிக்கும் விதமாக பாராளுமன்ற தேர்தலில் பா.மா.க. போட்டியிடும் 6 தொகுதிகளிலும் ரஜினி ரசிகர்கள் அந்த வேட்பாளர்களுக்கு எதிராக ஓட்டளிப்பார்கள் என அறிவிக்கிறார். தேர்தல் முடிவு வேறு விதமாக அமைகிறது.

இது தான் நடந்தது.

அன்புடன்

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

Jai,
Let's just agree to categorically disagree :)

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What I would like you to understand is that Rajini might at some times flounder for a fleeting while - but on the long term decision making he has chosen to not indulge into his fans' dreams of being a political force at the cost of his peace of mind or at the cost of his fans being politically misused and become wayward. You have to concede him atleast that much. None of the actors today start their career wanting to have a big fan base and manipulate them. Offcourse there are some who are launched with titles and everyone knows what their target is - that is really condemnable. Apart from the handful few for most of them fanbase naturally happens. Once you have a fanbase what does the actor do with it is the question - he can manipulate it like some have done for personal political gains (money conquered - lets go for power) and for some to simply be in the industry despite string of flops and no shows. Rajini and Kamal stand tall amidst all the other actors on both counts most of the times.

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Rajini is complicit by silence. There is a group out there expecting that he will join politics. Rajini has fueled it by giving "voice" and via his movie dialogues throughout the 90s, creating the impression that he is going to be entering politics anytime... (it seems to have slowed down after BABA/PMK issues though).

Ultimately it is the fans' fault but Rajini could be a bit more responsible and issue a clear statement (a decade should be sufficient time to make a decision) so that the fans can move on. Sure he is not legally bound to do it but I am sure he is aware of the fans' expectations. Imagine someone is depending on you for something. You haven't promised them anything but if you are aware of their expectations, shouldn't you at least let them know that you don't plan do anything?

The reality is that the fans have to be kept excited to bolster the box-office (applies to all actors). I would be surprised if Rajini clarifies on this until he stops making movies or moves over to character roles.

Coming to the fans, what do these guys expect? Just because they have whistled and did Abhishekam, they should be given political appts? If they have political aspirations, they should join some party or if they want to do social service just work with the several organizations that are already there.

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Originally Posted by equanimus

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

This incident apart - I am a fan of no actor - However I have friends who are fans of Rajini and Kamal and some younger actors. I see them being more balanced about reality and life - The earlier trend of seeing fan base as vote bank has been baulked by both these actors and as a result the number of people who have wasted their lives on being 'fans' has not been as huge as anyone looking from outside would want to believe. Both Rajini and Kamal have consistently asked their fans to be committed to their family and do good to their immediate community and nothing beyond that. In short - inspite of the stupidity of the fans(dreaming of political presence), the maturity of both these actors in not expoliting them stands out.

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Jaiganes,
This is steeped in condescension. Do you really mean to say that "they" -- those fans of that actor (whoever it is) -- need (or needed in the past) to get a better grip of "reality and life" while you and I (err, not sure if I qualify) do? For some reason, I'm reminded of 'subramaNiyapuram'.

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Equanimus!
condescending - it might sound!
but I aam saying what I have observed. I have seen young bright men stealing money from house, mortgaging jewelry at home to buy FDFS ticket and end up losing grades in school and college. They are rather smart people otherwise. Guess at any point in time as to why girls score more marks than guys in school in our country and in particular our state - this blinding devotion and fatal attraction is one key reason. I have seen it too many times happening around. Some lucky fans get out of their stupor just in time, many have rich parents and kind uncles to help them regain in their lives - but the poorest of the lot have no other go but to languish in poorly paid jobs with discontent in the heart. I - you - we are very very lucky not to have gotten distracted by the blinding star power that much - that much of equanimity was in our head.

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Originally Posted by Nerd

selva, idhu enna kadala mittAyA, venum/venaam-nu solla?? Rajini has interest, but not ready to take the plunge yet. I mean he shudders to think about the possibility of losing. And I repeat, rajini fans (who are still registered, after the PMK sweep) now will be happy with whatever rajini decides and we don't need IIIrd party advises/sympathies!!!!

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y cant rajini get this across to his fans atleast......look, i have the interest, but let me wait for time and place to do it or i might drop the idea totally........i think his fans, one of the most loyal ones in history, deserve this explanation atleast........

but i wont go to the extent of calling him selfish and being manipulative but his indecisiveness is certainly irritating......

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Rajini or Kamal or Rahman or Raja dont have to clarify anything. If something is gonna benefit their market or producers they will play along. It is the fan who must break out of the stupor.

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Originally Posted by comments

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Originally Posted by jaiganes

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

Jai,
Let's just agree to categorically disagree :)

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What I would like you to understand is that Rajini might at some times flounder for a fleeting while - but on the long term decision making he has chosen to not indulge into his fans' dreams of being a political force at the cost of his peace of mind or at the cost of his fans being politically misused and become wayward. You have to concede him atleast that much. None of the actors today start their career wanting to have a big fan base and manipulate them. Offcourse there are some who are launched with titles and everyone knows what their target is - that is really condemnable. Apart from the handful few for most of them fanbase naturally happens. Once you have a fanbase what does the actor do with it is the question - he can manipulate it like some have done for personal political gains (money conquered - lets go for power) and for some to simply be in the industry despite string of flops and no shows. Rajini and Kamal stand tall amidst all the other actors on both counts most of the times.

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Rajini is complicit by silence. There is a group out there expecting that he will join politics. Rajini has fueled it by giving "voice" and via his movie dialogues throughout the 90s, creating the impression that he is going to be entering politics anytime... (it seems to have slowed down after BABA/PMK issues though).

Ultimately it is the fans' fault but Rajini could be a bit more responsible and issue a clear statement (a decade should be sufficient time to make a decision) so that the fans can move on. Sure he is not legally bound to do it but I am sure he is aware of the fans' expectations. Imagine someone is depending on you for something. You haven't promised them anything but if you are aware of their expectations, shouldn't you at least let them know that you don't plan do anything?

The reality is that the fans have to be kept excited to bolster the box-office (applies to all actors). I would be surprised if Rajini clarifies on this until he stops making movies or moves over to character roles.

Coming to the fans, what do these guys expect? Just because they have whistled and did Abhishekam, they should be given political appts? If they have political aspirations, they should join some party or if they want to do social service just work with the several organizations that are already there.

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comments! Rajini the superstar he might be, but is powerless if the producers decide against having him in the movie. distributors will go beserk if Rajini issues a categorical statement saying that he will not enter politics. because if he does, he will not be saleable anymore( not after having built up the political image that sold so many movies).