Writer/Director - Christopher Nolan

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Originally Posted by Sid_316

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Did ellen page actually perform the inception on di caprio?? Did she make di caprio to believe his dream is his reality in the end?

^ There r some clues for this also .. like at yusuf's place he says pointing at the ppl who r sleeping saying these guys come here to be woken up from their dreams.They think their dreams r their reality

And also Di caprio asks ellen page to create mazes but not to show him i

it all fits doesnt it?

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Ha, As I said, I see it this way. Our chat session in Facebook would seem unstructured as it is. Will try to collate and post 'em in an organized manner.. :)

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Looking forward :thumbsup:

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No chat history in Facebook :?

ennakku expectation thaange mudiyale..paathe aaganum...

Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?

3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?

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Originally Posted by P_R

Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?

3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?

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P-R, regarding 2), i had the same doubt as u...but then Saito is wounded right from level 1 and dies in the level 3 where as Cobb does so at a latter level...maybe that explains the degeneration of Saito compared to Cobb....

Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

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Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

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Sathya, actually it is NOT that complicated.
In fact one of the legitimate charges that can be laid on Nolan is that he sometimes explains a little too much in dialogue. You can sense that he is anxious that the film be understood. He pretty much carries the audience along.

dhairiyamA padam paarunga :-)

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Wikipedia la kadhai padikkaama enakku kandippa Padam puriya pOradhu illai.

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Sathya, actually it is NOT that complicated.
In fact one of the legitimate charges that can be laid on Nolan is that he sometimes explains a little too much in dialogue. You can sense that he is anxious that the film be understood. He pretty much carries the audience along.

dhairiyamA padam paarunga :-)

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Still figuring some parts out, in the meanwhile, enakkoru sandhEgamNNE

1) Cobb stays back in Limbo to search and meet Saito. Isn't Limbo populated only by projections in Cobb's subconscious before he got into Limbo. I for one expected it would be the 'same' world as the one Mal and Cobb had built when they lived there for 50 years. How come Saito is there?

2) Assuming Saito is somehow there, how come he has aged several times more than Cobb?

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1) is simple right. Cobb is thrown into Limbo only when the van hits the water in Level1, as he is drowned here. Saito is already in Limbo because he over-bleeds to death because of fatal wounds, and is therefore considerably aged (2). Since Cobb's body in level 1 is drowned, he imagines himself to be washed off to shores in Limbo.

Limbo is different from Mal-Cobb. It's a "collective" dreamscape. Some of Cobb's is thrown around. But Saito's architecture is distinctly 'oriental' - presumably built/imagined it to his taste and the guards are his projections.

Notice how he eats and is seated in the table in a very similar posture to the one in the very first 'audition' dreamshare. The very first one we encounter, where again Mal interrupts their heist by shooting the point man, Arthur - that one is molded with Saito's dream as the "base" and has Cobb playing agent "Charles" to get onto Saito's good side. But since Saito is well trained in dreamshare, he suspects Cobb and Arthur. Then Mal disrupts the plan. From there, they jump to third world country in some revolution/rebellion, with Nash's (who turns out to be a traitor, ratting out everybody) dream as base, but they're all deluding Saito as if it's his - which ultimately fails when Saito makes out from material of carpet (therefore sort of a totem to figure out some other dream he is in) and eventually, they all get 'kicked' back to the train.

And talking of Limbo, only two are thrown into this state. Saito - the architecture shows. Then Cobb - the kids are his projections here. As 'shores' has resonance to his place. We even see in one sequence, Mal and Cobb making sand moulds down in the beach (in 'reality' one assumes).

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3) When the van drives off the bridge it is the 1st kick in Level 1. But at that time there is NO kick in Level 2 (Hotel). So it is understandable that Cobbs, Eams, Ariadne and Fischer are not kicked out of Level 3 (Snowy place). However Arthur himself is only in Level 2 (Hotel) and should have been woken up, right ? Why does he too continue in sleep till they hit the water?

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Level 1 - Van down the bridge. Is the Kick.
Level 2 - Hotel level - the 'falling' down motion plus explosion of Lift functions as the kick.
Level 3 - Explosion in snowy Eastern European place. Pulling the whole concrete down..
Level 4. Is the level where Cobb is absolved of Mal. That level has specific dreamshare as the 'base', the architectural dreamscape that Cobb had built with Mal (and they have none other constructed) - Adriane joins with Cobb and Fischer (almost dead, but in a 'transient' state). Fischer is in deep sleep/coma in this level. And is kicked down.

Adriane deliberately falls down here. Kicks Fischer down the building. And they both join level 3 at the right time. Since the 'kicks' are synced with Level 2, and Level 1 - they are all pushed to Level 1. And the only two, who aren't 'kicked' back are Cobb and Saito.

K_G,

Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

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Originally Posted by ajaybaskar

K_G,

Now Nolan has hacked ur id.. Yes, U can take this as a compliment as well.. :-)

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Ivar padatha specialla slow motionla repeat senju 25 vaatti paathirukkaNum. illEnna :notworthy: for his observation, memory and narrative skills.