Kamalhassan's Ideology in his films

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Originally Posted by equanimus

And on the other hand, Ram Gopal Varma is an atheist who keeps making supernatural thrillers/horror films.

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The most hilarious piece of irreverence I have seen is in the scene in Satya where Chandu takes Satya to the apartment given to him.
There is a piLLaiyAr (Ganpat!) picture on the wall.

ek bistar hai...light hai...ek bagwaan bhi hai :lol:

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Originally Posted by Cinefan

Taking this line of argument,if Rama,Krishna,Ganesha are failing in their so called duties which KH and his like expect them to do,then is not Allah,Jesus also failing????????Then why relate only Hindu motifs to bad in the world and berate them/say they do not exist?

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spot on! Ithai avar thairiyamaaga sollattum, appuram paarpom

In the same dasa climax, if there were a scene where govind hears nagesh saying" dei kalif ullaah, paarthiya namma ellorayum kaapaathinathu antha allaa thaan, masoothikku veliya irunthiruntha naama ellorum sethiruppom" and responds "En sir, unga allaah, avlo periya kadavulaa irunthaa en masoothikku veliya iruntha makalai ellaam saaga vittuttaar? avanga elaam muslim illenna? masoothkkulla illenna?" then we can say he is balanced.

Kekkura vithandavaatha kelvigalellaam correctaa iayengaars kitta thaan keppaaru

suppose if kamal thinks, as he came from vaishnavam camp, he has more authority(?) to question only that community than any other, then its sheer foolish as neither he is not supporting those beilifs nor they are agreeing him as one among them. he is basically an outsider when it comes to any religion

If he tries to portray that he is not afraid of pointing the blunders of his (once)own, now divorced religion, sorry sir, neenga ippo ange illai. why always blaming ur ex-wife? instead blame other's wife, u have to be balanced and not partial on this

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Secularism / atheism / paguththarivu in india is hindu bashing. Nobody is an exception to this template.
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விவாதங்கள் நல்லதொரு வாசிப்பு அனுபவத்தை ஏற்படுத்தியிருக்கிறது. நன்றி அனைவருக்கும்.

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

suppose if kamal thinks, as he came from vaishnavam camp, he has more authority(?) to question only that community than any other, then its sheer foolish as neither he is not supporting those beilifs nor they are agreeing him as one among them. he is basically an outsider when it comes to any religion

If he tries to portray that he is not afraid of pointing the blunders of his (once)own, now divorced religion, sorry sir, neenga ippo ange illai. why always blaming ur ex-wife? instead blame other's wife, u have to be balanced and not partial on this

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spot on! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Originally Posted by kalyan

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

suppose if kamal thinks, as he came from vaishnavam camp, he has more authority(?) to question only that community than any other, then its sheer foolish as neither he is not supporting those beilifs nor they are agreeing him as one among them. he is basically an outsider when it comes to any religion

If he tries to portray that he is not afraid of pointing the blunders of his (once)own, now divorced religion, sorry sir, neenga ippo ange illai. why always blaming ur ex-wife? instead blame other's wife, u have to be balanced and not partial on this

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spot on! :clap: :clap: :clap:

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:yes: :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

In the same dasa climax, if there were a scene where govind hears nagesh saying" dei kalif ullaah, paarthiya namma ellorayum kaapaathinathu antha allaa thaan, masoothikku veliya irunthiruntha naama ellorum sethiruppom" and responds "En sir, unga allaah, avlo periya kadavulaa irunthaa en masoothikku veliya iruntha makalai ellaam saaga vittuttaar? avanga elaam muslim illenna? masoothkkulla illenna?" then we can say he is balanced.

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intha oru point mattum vaapas vaangikkuren, becos, just after nagesh utters the dialog - allaah thaan ellaraym kaapaathinaar - we are shown balram naidu flying atop on the helicopter. symbolics!

all my other points stand the same

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

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Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar

In the same dasa climax, if there were a scene where govind hears nagesh saying" dei kalif ullaah, paarthiya namma ellorayum kaapaathinathu antha allaa thaan, masoothikku veliya irunthiruntha naama ellorum sethiruppom" and responds "En sir, unga allaah, avlo periya kadavulaa irunthaa en masoothikku veliya iruntha makalai ellaam saaga vittuttaar? avanga elaam muslim illenna? masoothkkulla illenna?" then we can say he is balanced.

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intha oru point mattum vaapas vaangikkuren, becos, just after nagesh utters the dialog - allaah thaan ellaraym kaapaathinaar - we are shown balram naidu flying atop on the helicopter. symbolics!

all my other points stand the same

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hardly convincing :?

even if you assumed that allah had acted via Balram naidu shifting the muslims of the locality into the mosque, allah/god still becomes accountable for the loss of lives outside the mosque, from KH's point of view. :huh:

kalyan, what i thought was, the writer tried to say that, in reality its balram naidu's foolish act of forcing everybody to assemble in the mosque, but nagesh misunderstand that as an act of allaah

i strongly feel kamal an aethist won't reinforce an idea(even indirectly) that god acted via a person to save a specific group, becos basically he doesn't belive there is anything called god

Ok I wasn't at all interested in the atheism-agnosticism academic debate (what does that make me, kid and equa? Atheist?agnoticist?agnoticist atheist) but the direction of the discussion being takne now raises a point from me. Let's leave kamal aside for a moment.
Now guys what is the problem? If you believe in God, do you believe that there is a separate God for muslims, a separate one for hindus and a third one for christians? If so does the hindu god only protect hindus? And so on? Doesn't that by itself shake your foundation of belief in God? Hindu Godsai sonnA ellA Godsaiyum sonnA mAdhiri dhAnE? :huh:
There were definitely some problems with the post dasa mollifcation of some muslim activists by kamal - as though he was trying to maintain a constituency but that is a different discussion(outside his movies )
You've to reread feeyaar's point about his views on God as expressed through his movies is not really personal but as an intervener. He might be a little deluded there but I tend to agree with feeyaar.