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equa,

I had written a long mail to a friend on how Raja has been changing according to current needs in terms of how he does business. So I am not too surprised. This change has been happening over the past year or more. He seems to have understood the working of the industry well and has come to terms with it. So you see him in many promos mouthing what is expected of him.

In terms of music too he is mapping well as to what people are expecting for a particular movie. He did it in 'SreeRamaRajyam' and I am sure he will do it in 'NEP'.

Suresh,

I am taking Yesudas or Madhu or Vijay as just example. There are lot of spiritiual Bhajan singer who probably do justice for emotion as well as voice. A rigorous selection procedure might have ensured it. It is not that only IR understand the meaning hence emotion will be there only in IR's singing.

May be such a try was never attempted due to funding of project, which might be the case.

mmmm... Couldn't help thinking..

What a contrast!

Vinnai thandi varuvaaya audio release was very impressive with playing songs live, Gowtham Vasudeva Menon's polished, neat, no-non sense style presentation of a urban album, A.R.Rahman's romba alavana appearance in the stage


here, when some of us are GLAD when GVM joins Ilayaraja,

Sample earth - shattering aa illaatta kooda paravaayillai,

impressive aa kooda illai,

IR vera sappadu, oorukka pechu vidararu...

Hope things will be better in a day or two when rest of the songs/album is out!

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Originally Posted by baroque

mmmm... Couldn't help thinking..

What a contrast!

Vinnai thandi varuvaaya audio release was very impressive with playing songs live, Gowtham Vasudeva Menon's polished, neat, no-non sense style presentation of a urban album, A.R.Rahman's romba alavana appearance in the stage


here, when some of us are GLAD when GVM joins Ilayaraja,

Sample earth - shattering aa illaatta kooda paravaayillai,

impressive aa kooda illai,

IR vera sappadu, oorukka pechu vidararu...

Hope things will be better in a day or two when rest of the songs/album is out!

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I don't think there was anything to hope for but the bgm. Blasphemy , it may sound, mediocrity
celebration it might be construed as, yet I am willing to go out on one
Limb and say... Nothing would ever match the syrupy catchinesss of
menon n Harris combo.

I will not compare Ilayaraja's music to (any director's project) any composer from S.D.Burman, M.S.V to current Harris etc..

Raja is Raja, Khaiyyam is Khaiyyam, they all have their own signature.

GVM made a good team with Harris, released some hits.

adhey maadhiri, Raja with GVM should click, same time I want Raja to elate us too.

Raja screwing us with poor singing kind of disappointing to me!:(

Forget it may be GVM's choice to attract youth etc...

not working, Raja!

Raja, stop with your oorukai, saappadu pechu... in a time like this very unattractive!:twisted:


singer Karthik has sung some songs.

Live orchestra - 100 piece, singer Karthik , of course there is HOPE!

kutti sample nalla illainnudhaney polambarom.. udaney unreleased album is Hopeless,

Vitta, Gowtham, go back to Harris nnu solliduveenga polarukkey!

minnale, vaarana maayiram dhaan ninaippu erukku followed by Rahman's VTV from GVM's films.

vera enna Harris-GVM album fabulous?

vettaiyadu vilaiyadu ley onnum enakku ippo pattu ninaippu illai!

couldn't recall any other songs...

I actually agree with Raja. There is a difference b/w film music and music. He has done himalayan work in film music but didn't have the chance to explore music outside of film. If this confuses or sounds unbelievable, here's an analogy -- Although film acting makes actors stars and gets them all kind of awards, actors still feel theater acting is real acting and/or gives them more satisfaction. (Actors from theater feel this way)

I believe this is the case for Raja. While film music allowed him to become a famous star and do lot of different type of music. They all are similar type of music if you look from his point of view. I actually think film music genre is very narrow for musician like Raja. Also, he didn't have the luxury of story driven cinema of old times or should I say MSV times? He didn't have the same array of brilliant actors, story/screen writers, Directors and studios set-up that made 1940-1970 the golden ages of Tamil Cinema. By the time, Raja entered cinema, Tamil cinema has changed drastically and studio system is in sharp decline and independents producers have become the real players.

I'm not saying Tamil cinema is not brilliant and directors are not great post 1970 era, but just that the overall strength of Tamil cinema collectively has declined. This is neither the fault of Raja or ARR. Simply the industry has changed with times or lost it's compass. Irrespective of the interpretation regarding the state of the film industry, it is harder to do good film music because of the changed trends. It has really affected Raja more because he is really old school in heart and believes in the integrity of cinema and music. He would have loved to belong to MSV and KVM generation than his generation or the current generation.

At the same time, he sees himself as an individual artist unlike his predecessors and doesn't want to be dictated solely by needs of film industry. He is unable to break the mold of the industry and go from being cog in the wheel to an independent artist. Whenever he tried to dictate terms as independent artist, people ran away from him. This is the same issue faced by actors like Kamal.

So I doubt he had the freedom to do what he thought he could do in music. Probably GVM has given him some free hand and at the same time provided something inspiring to try new things. This might be the reason for his current statement. Now, this doesn't mean his new work is gonna surpass his earlier work. It might be just that he has gotten a platform to try his musical ideas.

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Originally Posted by baroque

"915 padangalle appalamum oorugaiyum thaan koduththen...ippo thaan konjam saapaadu koduthirukken..GM padathula" - IR


appadiyaa, ilayaraja!

inga post panni erundha unga puthiran kuralil erukkara pattu sample panninen nethikku!

onnum innum oru spoon vangi sapada invite pannalai...:(

vera item yellathaiyum kondu vanga neengalum GVMnum,:twisted:



sample pannittu, nanga mudivu pannikkaram,

inimey unga veettu dinnerkku varum podhu, sapttuttu, chumma perukku thottuttu vandha porumannu!

IT DOESN'T FANCY MY TASTE!

though your invitation counts.. THANKS FOR THE THOUGHTS!

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I am with senthilv.com on this. No need to be harsh on the genius..He is just referring to appalam, oorukkai for film music as it is not possible to do much serious work there. He has mentioned this privately to many in friendly situations .. he has to maintain a rhythm.. some familiar structure etc.
This song seems to be a fusion of jazz and rock elements. He has been learning Jazz from his Hungarian friends and he is debuting his works in this film.. that is why he refers to this movie to be somewhat in that line. Please note, he says it with a laugh. It is quite possible for what he has accomplished in this film he is really being humble.
He is not like other MDs just for the sake of doing a Jazz song, to take some Jazz standards and improvise on it. He will do original work and this song is likely to be very original. I think we probably need to get initiated into this genre (Jazz). We need some critiquing from some Jazz listeners.
(BTW, the recording quality is awesome.)

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

Prasad,

As I said earlier, people seem to have different criteria. If it is sruthi for you, it could be the murder of language for others. (For example, in Kannada, Udit Narayan sings , 'nA jothege' clearly as ' nachO dekhe', turning Kannada into Hindi. He does that in sruthi suddham way but it is still not pleasant to the ears.)

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Suresh, a small nitpick. Its not 'nA jothege'. Its 'naachOdu eke' ('why do you blush?'). The way he pronouces sounds Hindi'ish. Still its tolerable, I would say.

CRV,

Thanks. I stand corrected. Didn't know this. But I clearly hear 'nAcho Dekhe' :)

Aaahaaa. One one minute sample and ivvalo periya panchayatA? I am really surprised at the murderous attack on Yuvan !!! :) Anyway I am sure that Raja can never do anything less than brilliant. So I am more than sure the songs are going to be top class.

kiru: I think Raja is already into the jazz genre and has given some lovely numbers in Paa, Om Shanthi and Suryakanthi. Some parts of ASK BGM are also jazz. He is probably extending what he has been doing and taking it to the next level.