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IR=R&D
rest = T&E
ARR= fusion of R&D and T&E......
so, In your words, ARR has 50% R&D and remaining T&E.. What logic is this man?
Same side goal maari irukku :lol:
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IR=R&D
rest = T&E
ARR= fusion of R&D and T&E......
so, In your words, ARR has 50% R&D and remaining T&E.. What logic is this man?
Same side goal maari irukku :lol:
selva, ARR is more versatile than any of his successors/predecessors.......so he can do a R&D for mani/shankar/BR movies and do a T&E for lesser directors......does that make more sense now?? :D
wow.. Good reply indeed ! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
:wink:
I was just kidding..
on the topic of IR worrying abt his end product,
I also had a opinion that IR doesnt care abt the end product, just churns out music out of pure talent.
But recently, as i listen to more of his music i can sense his meticulous care in making most of these songs. at times u may feel that his orchestrations are a bit mechanical, but the truth is, each of those songs are composed with so much soul and care, that u can feel them touching ur heart. no, wonder he was considered stringent when it comes to extracting music. At times it screams genius, at times "a dedicated music artist". but i still have my reservation for the quality of his chorus singers. it seems that he never botherd abt them. they sound as if they are straight out of all india radio.
PS: all my above opinions are based upon IRs good songs (which i beleive is the 75% case). I find his bad songs too irritating to warrant even an attempt to listen :)
yes in my opinion more than 50% of arr songs are too irritating to warrant even an attempt to listen :)Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
One more Vaitherichal-party..Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbird
I know for sure that IR music reached the hearts and minds of millions of people all over the world for over 4 decades. why YSR is not taking his father's step - because he can not. He is not even 1% of IR, so he is doing what others are doing - use technology to hide mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
this is a very conservative, rigid, thinking....Quote:
Originally Posted by njv
hehe, try to be original atleast in ur posts. u dont have to cut copy my post and edit it to contend m point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunderbird
Thamizhvaanan you consider IR's good songs is 75% and some others may consider only 20% ... but IR has given his complete effort in all the songs he has composed so far. may be you wont like listening to the other 25% songs when singled out... but they would gel with the movie if watched on screen. I cant find even one song where IR has failed considering the movie wholesome. Man after all HE is a Film music composer not an album composer :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
And If you find a song not listenable even along the movie I would advice you that, IR is saying 'Poi Dum adinga inga oru mannagattiyum nadakala' :)
thats what is happening. take western songs from 100 different albums and use .0025 seconds from each album and come up with a tune and add add synth on top of it and mix it with some high tech noice and add little hindustani to it and make a good music - a definitely conservative, rigid thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
:lol: may be u r right, they may sound nice along with the film. the fact is i dont watch that many films that period except KB and BRs films.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
for example ,take the song "aalolam paadi" (i dunno which film it is from). I am listening to this song right now. every time the song jumps up in my playlist i am tempted to press next. The song is quite good actually with a nice tune, but may be it is because of the other heavyweight songs in my playlist, that i feel like pressing next. As I type this "Putham pudhu kalai" has sprung up in my playlist. now, can I press next for a song like this. nope. so, i agree with u when u say those average songs mite sound good in the film, not out of my knowledge, but out of my lack of it :D
I have to make it clear here that i have no qualms abt wat IR has done so far. no one can ask for more from him. wat he has done so far, can hardly be matched by anyone else in one lifetime. I just feel these exceptions are a very minor deface in his career. may be i wudn have said this if ARR never came to TFM :roll: I understand wat u mean when u say IR is a film composer, not an album composer. :D
i think this may be the reason behind likeability of yuvan's songs. It is this sense of familiarity, most of his songs :D i dunno wether he follows the procedure of njv :lol: njv, why dont u put this into an algor and create an artificial intelligence software (Intelligence is a misnomer here :lol: ).Quote:
Originally Posted by njv
7G RAINBOW->interval scene->straight out of the box from Vanessa Carlton->but still liked the idea of using a good music to a totally different situation (Plagiarism is not a good think atleast they should have given credits somewhere)
Regarding Technology: Right now technology has reached to a much greater extent than in 70's-80's (I mean the catch-up curve that used to take years is just minutes). So please dont explain to me that IR did not take care of his end product, this is bologne.
But still I hold my opinion that IR was pretty natural in his ability to give soul stirring music just like that. I dont undermine others ability here. And also I believe IR can carry a movie just by his sheer music (he had done several times), no body can refute that in TFM.
That is exactly why YSR & HJ are popular right now is because their songs are very familiair.each album sounds similair to the next with maybe one or two exceptions. And this is why IR was popular in the mid 80s early 90s, his stuff sounded similair.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
What IR did early in his career is what ARR does for todays generation. IR innovated in his era and the others followed suit. Thats what the current crop does with ARR. He sets the trend and everyone else just follows suit.
can he do that now???Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicIsLife
u do seem to purposefully look for bad pts relating to IR :( . When someone is appreciated we generally look forward to excuses to degrade it, if the person is not our fav MD. This is wat TB did, bcoz evrytime we talk abt ARR he wud bring in parasuram. Let us not do the same to the gr8 IR. afterall for whatever he has done, he has done more than enuf to secure his place amongs the greatest ever. no need to pounce over his current lull, which in no way is an indication of his talent. Hope u guyz understand :D!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
thamizh,Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
where were u when njv indirectly suggested that ARR takes 00:25 secs of various songs to compose a song
where were u when RS suggested that ARR is not at all a film composer
boss i can go on, ok.......u dont know wat all we faced........but still we respect IR and adore him.......when ppl. have started this thread comparing ARR's current lull with the happening MDs of today then y not check IR's status in today's TFM??? i think ppl. want only gud things to be told abt IR and nuthin else....
I understand MADDY, I hope u also understand :roll: !
"inna seitharai oruthal avar naana nannayam seithu vidal"
:rotfl: thiruvalluvar will kill me if he sees me quoting this out of context :rotfl:
Maddy,
I dont know even if IR produces mind blowing music, it would alone carry the movie. But I believe he is capable of doing it. Looking at Azhagi/Sethu (which has impossible story line and a blazing bgm interpersed with solid songs), or hearing to Kathal Sathi; a repeat is not impossible, Can I say that anybody now in TFM currently can do that? I dont have examples or history for that matter of fact.
I accept Thamizhvanan's comment, if you see a noble prize winner, will you ask them can you do it again? may be yes and may be no. IR had his long era in Tamizh Film music, just bcoz he is sidelined or not in the limelight does not mean he is incapable (who knows).
Why not? The doors are always open for him to compose MEGA Serials. His music certainly gets more attention with a title track and BGM for every episodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
IF some believe that ARR had lost ground in TFM where is IR now. Generation Awakening....
There is no need for IR work to give Music for TV serials now. Only because, all the bgms/songs of TV serials telecasting currently in Tamil/south indian Channels have 85% theft music from Ilaiyaraja's music ocean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scale
Thus, it had aleardy his music in the form of others name :poke:
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If he don't want to make music for films, it will be the best movement to compose music albums like Thiruvasagam :D
MIL,
Sethu nor Azhagi didnt need IR.You coulda thrown in any MD and the movies still woulda been good.
As for thiruvasagam...that wasn't anything spectacular.i dont know why (other than cuz its IR) it got hype.that is something that wasnt new.
Exactly, No denials on that.
Dont we need to sew those plagiarists. How long they will copy IR & ARR tunes for those BGM's. Many of the viewers cant even recognize those old GEMS. Let IR proceed with his original works & Sure ARR will follow in a decade or early :poke:
good try :lol: better this next time :poke:Quote:
Originally Posted by slperson1
slperson1
Did you read my comment fully, what I meant to say was, the bgm/songs just added so much lift, why I mentioned them was they were very recent to give a hint how IR music was powerful for the script.
I beg to differ on thiruvasagam (probably coz I more bent upon having Tamil Marai vazhipadu as pronounced by Manickavasagar; though been reciting vedam for a long time).
I liked what Dharmapuram Swaminathan did to kolaru thirupathigam, it made me recite properly, and IR thiruvasagam did that, easy to recite (this is entirely my opinion)
Scale:
why are so against IR? Just curious.
But in my opinion, if he does TV Mega serial, still it would be good, dont you think? or probably they could still use How to name it or Nothing but wind tracks? (ex how veedu movie dit it)
Hi RS,
How r you?
Athu Oru Kana Kaalam was excellent with its musical score, i dont think the movie is anything without the bgm.
No need to sew them let them be torn more by the likes of you :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Scale
Why shud IR go to TV its ARR who started off from TV let him go back there :notworthy:
MIL,
You are mistaken. I am not against IR. I respect him a lot for his sincerity,dedication to his profession who has come up very HARD. Most of his works are Miraculous!.
That post was to those who bash ARR that he lost ground in TFM. Now look how it pains...
Apologies if it has offended any genuine neutral music lovers. Read my reply to yr post (25-30 yrs MD existence in future)
http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...6845&start=120
RS, for you too.
AOKK-the movie was a decent one... but somehow it didnt get enough response from the people cos of the slow paced style of BM :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicIsLife
Did you notice the 'Aalaap' in a scene when Hero and heroine meet it was out of the world and backed up the scene and emotions between them well :thumbsup:
MIL Iam fine :) How about you ? So you started frequenting here atlast :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by MusicIsLife
Regarding mega serials Didnt IR score for a couple of serials in late 80's and early 90's ? I think One was directed by Suhasini :?:
And the 'Thenpaandi singam' by Kalaingar Karunanidhi telecast in sun in late 90's had IR as the Composer. You can download and listen to the title song here
http://maestromagic.blogspot.com/
Check the 9th post of Venky
:shock: :lol:
bye RS. nalai varugiren.. :wave:
Yes,
As I mentioned previously, I just caught up on all the good movies of recent times in tamizh (for the past 3 years) so had some information and idea what I am talking about. I cannot be judgemental or give opinions otherwise.
Yes, that is where I was getting it, though AAOK was a decent movie, slow or whatever, IR's BGM was totally on another level, it did elevate the movie more than anything else. I was seeing the difference in his treatment to similar scenes like Moonram pirai (when the guy comes to rape sridevi), and this one was contrastingly different, stylish, still evokes the essential IR element in it.
Yes I remember those serials, IR still made a marked difference in TV mega serials too!!
I must apologize here for talking about IR. I will mention this in topics more related to IR.
Yuvan has scored a TV serial produced by Vikatan Olithirai (I forgot the name of the serial). That serial has a nice title song sung by Bavadharini. Any idea for this song on the net? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
shall we get out of the IR's family tree's conversations?? :P
i heard VV & GF will release on the same date...is that true?? both on 9th June....
MIL,
yes i read your comment fully.you said "Azhagi/Sethu (which has impossible story line and a blazing bgm interpersed with solid songs)" which i took as u thought Sethu was ridiculous xcept for the songs. If that is so then i beg to differ.
as for thiruvasagam, i stand by my opinion.the album was either people loved it or thought it wasnt anything new.i havent heard any inbetween reviews for it.but to each his own right?:)
Rajasaranam,
"good try better this next time"???? ummm....yeah....waita state nothing.your post didnt make much sense but okay.
slperson1,
Thanks for understanding. All i wanted to put forward was Music just lifted the feel of the intense movie to totally another level
VV v/s GF :D ......Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
Kamal v/s Ajith
HJ v/s ARR
Gautam v/s KSR
cant wait.... :D
Maddy.. GF & VV are totally of different genre.
Ofcourse, I accept that the fight b/w HJ & ARR would be interesting.
But don't term that as a fight b/w KAMAL & Ajith. (some folks here are creating a wind out of hay here with this one)
Both GF & VV are completely different. Both of them will be a feast to both the fans.
Remember, Lots of good movies that released simulataneously have become hits.
If we term this as a fight b/w KSR & GAutham then it will become :lol:
KSR -- Is coming up with a Commercial movie with the classy touch.. So, do Gautham,
But just with that, We cannot put them under the same category.
P.S: My personal opinion,, is ARR is way ahead of HJ.. He will prove that with his MIRATTAL BGM IN GF.. 8-)