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Thanks Mdm Saradha. haven't seen your posting for a while.
Now, I feel that the comment was uncalled for. It's sort of implying that NT was intoxicated at that time. No wonder the fans were very angry. But then, I guess MGR could not control his fans...so he may have not been PERSONALLY responsible for that incident. But he shouldn't have said that...
Oh hell..that was ancient history, no point getting worked up.
//"தம்பி சிவாஜி மேடையில் இருந்த கம்பத்தில் முட்டிக்கொண்டார் அன்று கேள்விப்பட்டேன். பிரச்சாரத்தின் போதாவது தம்பி சிவாஜி நிதானத்தில் இருக்க வேண்டும்" என்று அறிக்கை விட்டார்.//
Surely MGR making fun on NT's drinking habit. No wonder,MGR is known for these kind of provocation in politics
Dear Saradhaa,
It is nice to see you back in this forum. Though I haven't had the opportunity to interact with you before, I have read your posts especially on NT and a sort of wonder and excitement had run through me. Moreover Balaji had been waxing eloquently about you in many posts and that increased my curiosity. I remember putting a post in MSV's thread regarding the releases of NT from 1976 to 1981 in reply to your post but that was in March-April. After that had not seen any posts from you. Anyhow it is my pleasure to welcome you. I know you will come up with many interesting notes on NT.
Then coming to the stone throwing issue, I intentionally avoided the exact words used by MGR and wrote the sentence in my own words implying what MGR had said. That's why I wrote that his words were the least irritating. This remark made NT fans livid and that's why I had again said that some of them screamed for retaliation in the meeting addressed by NT. Well as Joe had pointed out MGR had this habit of making fun against his rivals. MGR fans used to say during those period that the song in Sange Muzhangu
Silar Kudipathu Pole Nadippar [ meaning MGR]
Silar Nadippathu Pole Kudippar [meaning NT]
Silar Paatil Mayanguvar [ meaning MGR]
Silar Bottilil Mayanguvar [meaning NT]
while arguing with us. MGR who made fun of NT will also act as if he meant good things for NT when he would say in En Annan " En Ethiri Kooda Kudikka Koodathunu Ninaikirvan Naan".
Not only about NT, while campaigning for Madurai Corporation Election in 1978 ( You can read about this in my earlier article) he was critisicing MuKa that he had not done anything for the poor and added " Avar Koppai (File) Paarthara illai Koppaiyai (glass) Paarthara endru Theriyavillai" which made MuKa furious and he for his part came out with some nasty comments.
This was the situation prevailing at that point of time.
Regards
MS Anna
Thanks a lot for the next episode though it was overdue :D
I will offer my views tomorrow . From now, NT's political life becomes very active !
Oru vinnappam ellorukkum pls........... Makkal thilagam was a legend & one of the architects of tamil cinema & whatever said & done about his rift with NT, HE REMAINS AS PON MANA CHEMMAL IN THE HEARTS OF CRORES OF PEOPLE INCLUDING ME :D
IRUNDHALUM MARAINDHALUM PER SOLLA VENDUM...IVAR POLA YAAR ENDRU OOR SOLLA VENDUM - endra vaarthaigalukku migavum poruthamanavar namadhu MGR :D
I know Murali Anna has been very refrained in even choice of words while commenting about MGR & his posts were polished & diplomatic :D
Dhayavu seidhu Puratchi thalaivarai patri kadumayana vimarsanam vendaame pls :cry:
Well, I am one of the guilty ones, Balaji. I apologise for that.
Both are now gone and have left us a legacy of wonderful films, and it would be inappropriate to complain NOW.
But it is interesting to note the rivalry, enmity, the friction and the chaos that took place, because ultimately it had been reflected in the films. I like the references made in songs...little trivias that are fun.
I shall refrain from labeling or pigeon-holing the characters. But please, let's not stop reminiscing about the two greats. I am sure that apart from rivalry, there had been instances where both have shown respect and love for each other.
I think after MGRs passing, NT has been mostly been respectful and sometimes in awe when he was asked about MGR. So much so, that Prabhu refers to MGR as Periyappa.
They could have been great pals...only bloody politics split them.
There, I am getting emotional again.
Anyway, there has been question posed either here or in Makkal Tilagam's thread about Koondu Killi. Does anyone have interesting anectdotes to share?
Dear Balaji,
I too apoligise if any of my wordings looks against Makkal Thilagam .I too admire him a lot.
Since we are talking about the political episode of NT, may I ask whether NT has used his films for his political propaganda ? My hand types no, but I know that the cinema is a powerful media to reach all masses. and did Sivaji ever compete in elections ?
A small write-up abt his movies which I saw during the past week. Yeah, I am going to 60's and 70's when I was never born, lucky me :)
Padikkadha Medhai: SVRR, Sowkar, and ofcourse NT. Everybody did their justice to the roles. The highlight of the film is that the role of NT began as an innocent character and ended as an innocent character. I thought this was the main reason for the movie to have come out well. IF this movie is remade I am sure the new directors will change the attitude of the hero and to fight fly-high during the climax :). The songs are as usual good especially, orae oru oorilae - being my pick
Sivandhamann: Joe mentioned that this is the first movie which was shot abroad.. I got excited when I saw the Concorde @ Paris in the film which was surprising as the director chose to come to Europe instead of UK or US, probably thats how it worked during 70's (?). Kanchana was as usual charming and boyy she was gorgeous in the song Pattathu Raani. And NT, I think not much of a hunting role for him, probably he would have finished more of the scenes in a single take (you guys have the right to correct me :) )
Generally, I do not want criticize or condemn anyone who is not alive. But, in this case, being a NT fan, I strongly condemn MGR's statement about NT. It shows how cheaply MGR played politics in those days. Again, MGR too had a lot of bad characters. As Joe said, MGR used his songs to make sarcastic comments about his rivals. Did NT use songs or situations to make bad comments about his rivals? At least, I haven't heard so.
Not just Sivaji as his acting rival, but even political rivals .... Against Congress and Kamaraj until 1967, quiet for 2 years during Anna's reign, and against KK after 1969 ... Cinema was MGR's campaign ground as we all know !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tacinema
There are a lot of NT's earlier movies which were hits not discussed (at all or much) in this Forum. Here and there I see few fans like groucho070, Balaji mentioning few movies. I would like to add some more here for our discussion. I will start with one such movie:
Name: Amara Deepam. Co-Artists: Savithri, Padmini, M.N.Nambiar, Thangavelu etc. Year of Release - Probably in late 50's (Not sure) Music - Is it A.M. Raja? A.M.Raja had sung a song for NT. Hit songs: Then unnum vandu, Maamalarai kandu ..., Naanayam Manusanukku Avasiyam ...
Thangavelu's comedy is also very good in this movie.
(Sorry I can't remember other songs). I have seen this film in mid 80's. I liked this film very much. It ran house-full for about two weeks in its late release in Cuddalore. Later from a Cine magazine I found that it was a 100-days movie.
C.V.Sridhar had written Story and Dialog for this movie. Then Prakash Rao must have directed this. (Correct me if I am wrong). It must have got released before Uththama Puthiran from the same team.
This film has a strong story line. A triangular love story like most of Sridhar's movies. The story goes like this: NT, a poor living on street. Saavithri a rich girl comes out of her house after a quarrel between her and cousin M.N.Nambiar. It happens for her to meet NT and they fall in love. M.N.N who is in search of Saavithri comes to know about this. He takes Saavithri back to her house after hitting hardly on NT's head. NT loses his memory and a Kalaikoothaadi team helps him for his survival. Padmini who is in the team starts to love NT. ...
I have seen later films with same kind of story line but can't remeber their titles. When Sridhar had fallen ill in late 90's and Actor Sivakumar met him mentioned some dialogs from this film. Give your inputs on this film and other films.