Nadigar Thilagam Sivaji Ganesan

Iruvar Ullam :

This is a commendable movie. This film contains excellent Story by writer Lakshmi (i think so) and Dialogues. competitive acting between Sivaji Ganesan and Saroja Devi. Different portrayal of M.R.Radha in a comic and pivotal role in the climax. Excellent songs by K.V.Mahadevan. The songs are popular even now. Unfortunately, it is not available as VCD or Video Cassette. If anyone can give the links from where one can get this memorable movie of Sivaji with Saroja Devi, it'll be nice. I've tried several sources in Chennai and B'lore, but couldn't get this movie. I want to see it again and again for the wonderful acting of Sivaji Ganesan and Saroja Devi.

Sivaji fans should try and get all his films on the internet so that everyone can enjoy it forever. Will it not be an apt tribute to Sivaji if all his films are available all the time.

Any society or culture should learn to respect the people who uplifted their image and reminder of our glorious past.

According to me Thiruvalluvar,Kamban,Bharathi and Shivaji are the four we should not forget.
Shivaji was the link between the hearts of the poet and commoner and acted in films to uphold the cultural ,social values,fan the nationalism and values of our religion.
he is the best actor world has ever seen(Though we could not produce even one world class films with him).He is the one to globalise the acting style of Indian films with out losing the cultural ethos. Some people aruging that NT staute should not be placed near marina . Denying him the place in Tamilnadu is just like arguing that you dont have a place for your elder's photograghs and memoirs in your house.

Learn to respect ourself Tamils,otherwise, we will lose our identity.Shivaji is a part of all Tamils living in the world.

NT deserves that spot in Marina.

Intha Mannum Kadal Vaanum Marainthu Mudinthaalum Marakka Mudiyaathaa Muthal Mariyaathai Maamamanithar Avar.

Irrespective of your profession,Be it an athlete,Sportsman,Actor,Scientist,Doctor,Politicia n,Teacher-Your real contribution counts by the excellence achieved by you and accolades you brought for yourself and your country.Not by the alms you give out to tyhe beggers.India has been spoilt by the free lunches and expectation by the people that something should be given free to be called a noble act.According to me Shivaji is the one of the highest achievers in his field.(He has achieved in his field more that what Eintein achieved in Science.


There can be admirers or fans for many actors.But you ask all the actors or even Amitabh.They all will tell only one name Sivaji.He is the actors' actor.
We have the best in the world and we have to honour him.

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Originally Posted by kalnayak

There are a lot of NT's earlier movies which were hits not discussed (at all or much) in this Forum. Here and there I see few fans like groucho070, Balaji mentioning few movies. I would like to add some more here for our discussion. I will start with one such movie:
Name: Amara Deepam. Year of Release - Probably in late 50's (Not sure) Music - Is it A.M. Raja? A.M.Raja had sung a song for NT. Hit songs: Then unnum vandu, Maamalarai kandu ..., Naanayam Manusanukku Avasiyam ...

(Sorry I can't remember other songs). I have seen this film in mid 80's. I liked this film very much. It ran house-full for about two weeks in its late release in Cuddalore. Later from a Cine magazine I found that it was a 100-days movie.

C.V.Sridhar had written Story and Dialog for this movie. Then Prakash Rao must have directed this. (Correct me if I am wrong). It must have got released before Uththama Puthiran from the same team.

I have seen later films with same kind of story line but can't remeber their titles. When Sridhar had fallen ill in late 90's and Actor Sivakumar met him mentioned some dialogs from this film. Give your inputs on this film and other films.

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Ada... ada... enna arumaiyaana (araivEkkaadu??) review. Indha latchanaththil neenga solreenga 'Balaji maathiri then and there'...

unmaiyil Balaji maathiri oruththar review panna mudiyuma?. enna oru perfect review koduppaar theriyumaa..?. Even saradha madam kooda Balaji alavukku panna mudiyaathu. andha alavukku romba perfectaa ella vishayaththaiyum gather pannittu appuramthaan post pannuvaar. Avarudaiya 'memory power' something great.

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Originally Posted by abkhlabhi

Iruvar Ullam :

This is a commendable movie. This film contains excellent Story by writer Lakshmi (i think so) and Dialogues. competitive acting between Sivaji Ganesan and Saroja Devi.

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For your kind information:

'Iruvar Ullam' story written by Laxmi (Novel: Pen Manam)

But Screenplay & Dialogues by : Dr. 'Kalainger' Mu. Karunanidhi (that is our present CM).

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Originally Posted by abkhlabhi

Iruvar Ullam :

This is a commendable movie. This film contains excellent Story by writer Lakshmi (i think so) and Dialogues. competitive acting between Sivaji Ganesan and Saroja Devi.

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For your kind information:

'Iruvar Ullam' story written by Laxmi (Novel: Pen Manam)

But Screenplay & Dialogues by : Dr. 'Kalainger' Mu. Karunanidhi (that is our present CM).

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You are right! I was about to mention the same.

When I was a trichy(studying) in 1992 ,'Iruvar Ullam' was released in a A/C theatre Star and ran for 3 weeks ,first 2 weeks most of the shows houseful..I was stunned to see the response like a just released movie.

Two days ago I did another viewing of Engiruntho Vanthal. Being that it is a Balaji production (Sujatha), it is certainly a remake of another films.

Aside: Does anyone know which film it was remade from? If so, can you compare it with this?

Since the story is not original, I shall refrain from mentioning it, albeit commending its great insight in human pysche (for its time).

I shall, of course, talk about performance. Coming to NT later, I think the other pillar in this movie is JJ. When she left cinema, we lost a great actress. It is perfectly evident here and in all the films she did with NT the calibre she posseses. Her character comes into NTs life merely as a volunteer and later, also due to certain 'forced' circumstance, she falls for NT and suffers the consequence. Her struggle to maintain dignity among the family members, some of whom sees her dishonorably, and 'treating' NT are some of the high points in the movie and JJs performance is brilliant.

The rest of the cast did what they have to do. Pity, Devika by now is relegated to supporting role. Muthuraman gets special mention, because he is a guest star and he rocks the boat as usual (as he did in Savale Samali, he was crucial for the climax).

Lets come to music. Anyone who says "Oree Padal Unnai Azhaikkum' sucks should be put in a rocket and sent outer space permanently. This song will haunt you! Forever. Another treat is Sirippil Undagum Ragattil, where laughter is equated with classical music. Brilliant composition and singing. MSV, as usual, outdid himself.

Now, we come to THE MAN himself. What can we say? To say that he had played this type of role befoer (his first film had episodes of him losing his mind) would be redundant. But he brought freshness to the usual stereotype of a mentally unstable person.

In this character, NT brought that one quality that many of his peers lacked - SOUL!.

He may be mentally not there, but his soul was rooted there, to his tragic past, and when JJ enters his life it takes a sudden unexpected turn. This is not an easy role to perform. You can play any mentally unstable person, but here you have an poet, a romantic, a loner who lost his heart to a woman who lost her life. For someone who uses his wit as a career, he loses it when one who is dear to him is no more.

Each time when he is abused verbally and physically (meaning getting beaten up, not anything else), we as a viewer suddenly feel guilty, because we ourselves are helpless. NT pulls us into his world and puts us into shame because we can only sit and watch him suffer. Such is the power of his performance.

I can go on and on about his performance here. Put anyone else in that role and you will get a movie which is OBVIOUSLY a remake. But with NT, the film is as original as it can be.

This is one movie that will warrant repeated views. I lost count ho many times I have visited it.

(The below ,I posted in Chandra Babu thread)

All of us know 'Sabash Meena' is one of the best comedy movies and Chandra babu acted with Nadigar thilagam and Chandra babu acted in dual roles.

When the producer first narrated this story to NT ,he asked NT's opnion on who will be suitable for that important character ..NT told " Chandra babu will be most suitable "..At the time Chandrababu is also in peak .He is known for his frankness .He never praised anybody and he just call anybody as Mr..so and so (even MGR) ..The producer went to chandra babu and narrated the story ..After that Chandra babu asked "who is the hero?" .The producer replied "Sivaji ganesan" ..Chandra babu replied "Oh! Ganesan .He is good actor..How much you give me for this movie?" .The producer asked "How much you expect?" .Chadrababu asked "How much offered to sivaji?" .Producer mentioned " Oru Ladcham" ..Then chandrababu said " Ok.then Give me one rupee more ..Oru ladsham oru rupaa" ..The producer stunned ..He went to sivaji and told everything ..Sivaji said " Avan kekkuratha koduthudunga ..Intha character-kku avan thaan oththu varuvaan .avanukku nalla scope irukku ithula..avana potta thaan nalla varum" .Finally the producer agreed... How great nadigar thilagam is!

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Originally Posted by joe

(The below ,I posted in Chandra Babu thread)

All of us know 'Sabash Meena' is one of the best comedy movies and Chandra babu acted with Nadigar thilagam and Chandra babu acted in dual roles.

When the producer first narrated this story to NT ,he asked NT's opnion on who will be suitable for that important character ..NT told " Chandra babu will be most suitable "..At the time Chandrababu is also in peak .He is known for his frankness .He never praised anybody and he just call anybody as Mr..so and so (even MGR) ..The producer went to chandra babu and narrated the story ..After that Chandra babu asked "who is the hero?" .The producer replied "Sivaji ganesan" ..Chandra babu replied "Oh! Ganesan .He is good actor..How much you give me for this movie?" .The producer asked "How much you expect?" .Chadrababu asked "How much offered to sivaji?" .Producer mentioned " Oru Ladcham" ..Then chandrababu said " Ok.then Give me one rupee more ..Oru ladsham oru rupaa" ..The producer stunned ..He went to sivaji and told everything ..Sivaji said " Avan kekkuratha koduthudunga ..Intha character-kku avan thaan oththu varuvaan .avanukku nalla scope irukku ithula..avana potta thaan nalla varum" .Finally the producer agreed... How great nadigar thilagam is!

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If I get it right, NT has never been bothered of competition. If need be, he like to allow others to shine. He is confident of his own talent and let it speak for itself.

I mean, just look at the films he did with Bheem Singh or KSG, or APN, where there are scene stealers like Ranggarao, MRR, Palaiyah, the great SV Suppiah, and character actors like Muthuraman and comedians like Nagesh (very dangerous scene stealer this man).

And don't forget the actresses? NT felt the strength of his performance can be complemented if his co-stars are strong themselves.

If you want to seen everyone shining and stealing shows from each other, right under NT's nose, watch Tillana Mohanambal. When the movie finishes (a rollercoaster ride of a movie), you'd be wondering who is the lead performer here.

Groucho70...

'Engirundho vandhaal' was the re-make of the Hindi Film "Kilona" acted by Sanjeev Kumar.

After watching Engirundho Vandhaal, Sanjeevkumar commented, "My God.. please dont compare both the movies, because I am far behind from Shivaji's performance".

As you said, it is one of the remarkable movie for Jayalalitha. Some others are:
Adimaippen
Sooriyakaanthi
Paadhukaappu (an NT movie)
Savaale Samaali
Thimaangalyam etc.