IR's composing technique

i feel bombay theme piece was very nice - it will be sujective to say its nice or not nice ....I liked it as such ,but i feel Ar Rehman's brilliance was in legend of Bhagat Singh ....

But there is one movie where i feel AR Rehman 's music was abig mismatch ,but not sure if the director wanted such a music ...

Its the movie NEW - the song NEW NEW was an absolute mess ....I felt that a 8 year old guy who turns 28 year old suddenly ,still has the mind of 8 year old ..That feeling was completly missing in that movie ...

Maddy, Jacky & MumbaiRamki, congrats for keeping up the TFMpage tradition (i.e. discussing ARR in IR thread and vice versa):-)

app_engine
U are right - this shld have been avoided :)

Diagression:

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While I was searching on the topic "Thinking", I found the following interesting link related to one of the topics we discussed in this thread a while ago

http://www.studygs.net/genius.htm.

Please find the #3 item in the list as follows:

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3. Produce! A distinguishing characteristic of genius is productivity.

Thomas Edison held 1,093 patents. He guaranteed productivity by giving himself and his assistants idea quotas. In a study of 2,036 scientists throughout history, Dean Keith Simonton of the University of California at Davis found that the most respected scientists produced not only great works, but also many "bad" ones. They weren't afraid to fail, or to produce mediocre in order to arrive at excellence

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A while ago in this "composing technique" topic, people were discussing about "Dhandam songs (mediocre work)".
Based on the above study on the scientists (of course IR is a music scientist), it looks like "medicore work " is one of the qualities of a Genius too. May be mediocre works are the side effects of trying to find the classics.

Most of the time we assume that if these geniuses work slow and work more on a single piece then the quality will be better. But geniuses do not seem to think so.

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Thanks

http://www.studygs.net/genius.htm
Please remove the extra period in the link.
Thanks.

app engine,
I don't intend to do that unless somebody revives the tradition of belittling other composer's good works to glorify IR.

"May be mediocre works are the side effects of trying to find the classics. "

If it were true, then IR should have been having more classics in the late 80s when he had more mediocre works and was doing 50 albums/year :-) But his classics were mostly from his first 6 or 7 years when he did around 25 albums/year. So this "logic" doesnt work in TFM I believe.

Vijayr

1. When I posted the link, I did not intend to justify or support IR's "dhandam" songs. When I read that article, I could connect the "Quality, Qunatity, Creativity & Genius" combo discussion in TFM with the findings of the research.

2. I do not beleive in winning the arguments. But I do believe in open minded discussion. I did not intend to change your ideas or opinion about the ratio of IR's classics and dhandam songs by posting the link. My intention was to expose another perception for the relationship between mediocre work,classic work and creativity.

3.Again I did not read anyhing ("logic") like "more classics will be created if more medicore works are created" in that article.

"University of Califoria at Davis found that the most respected scientists produced not only great works, but also many "bad" ones".

In the above sentence it is very well stated that "Many Bad ones"

4.In late 80s there were lot of classics created by IR but again your definition of classics and mine may be totally off.

Thanks.

Venus, my point is there have been geniuses(before IR) with lesser mediocre works to their credit as compared to their classics. You dont have a to create a library of medicore works in order to create a few classics. But anyways, if you think that the late 80s had a "lot of classics" then this whole thing becomes entirely subjective and moot.

And even subjectively speaking, most fans would generally agree that there were lot more classics from the first few years(in terms of concentration) as compared to say between 1987 and 90.