both are home productions of Kamal ... Am i right ? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
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both are home productions of Kamal ... Am i right ? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
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Originally Posted by jaiganes
Over indulgence of kamal the Actor into his movies is killing the creator slowly and nowthat after DasA I can witness The creator is Drowning for sure I've lost all hopes that the creator will be rescued atll.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Only kamal the Rationalist can revive that hope :x
Exactly!! You don't have to make a full fledged love story to show that you are good at it (BTW, Raja Paarvai is conveniently forgotten). Few directors can better the pain and love expressed by Mythili and Saket in HR in the scene where they are waiting outside Abhyankar's room, even with a full length film. It is just a matter of what he wants to make. Feature length love stories probably don't interest him now. Adhukkaga nethipottula thuppaki vechu love story ezhudhunna solla mudiyum!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
eppadinga intha paruthiveeran la aen british rule, kutravel mothakondu illaatha logic ellam vanthu miga periya story aanathey athu maariya :lol: :lol: atha neenga panninaalae pothumga... cooling glass ellam kadaiyila kedaikirathu... british aatchikku poganumnnu avasiyam illa :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Kamal as a creator - puts in a lot of written word. Lot is focussed on the next dialogue - too much talk. This can sometimes take action away from action films, mood away from serious films. Not every action of character needs to be spelt out - choked out and blurted. Leaving things unsaid is offcourse where the director comes in. The pity is that the directors whom he ghost directs dont have the guts or skill to override Kamal's written word for a scene and present it in their own way. When Kamal himself directs his films - he needs to watch out for this aspect - would do him a lot of good if he has some sensible guidance who can voice opinions freely - free of bias, adulation and awe on the set and during the filming. Directors like Surressh Krishna may not be cinematic geniuses, but when it comes to creating a scene and watching out and visualizing the scene , its impact - have their own grounded sensibilities that can be used instead of being ignored.
It is not as if Kamal never gets this thing right - remember the scene he created in Aboorva sagodharargal - the graphics of kamal's sketch drawig and Janagaraj's reaction before the 'annathe' song. He needs to regain it and I hope he will only with some support from independently thinking collaborators.
It is good to be a 'one man' army, however cinema is not the business for such people. Also I feel he has taken the step into direction much later in his life. The right time was in the 1990s when he was churning out Gunas , Thevar Magans and Mahanadhis. Post 2000 the tastes of audience has also been corrupted by too much of junk movies by everyone else and Kamal has been forced into acting in some junk movies to finance the creator on the next and the whole process has indeed taken a toll of hi juices as clearly seen in Dasa. Offcourse I can be this armchair critic and keep typing all day - much of this is just a lament while Kamal fans have field day punching and ridiculing every counter opinion perfectly aping Vijay fans or Rajini fans or simbu fans or the hub's fave - ajith fans. EOD they are fans while I am not and my opinions however stupid are independant.
oh yeah.. and the dialogues in the movies that you mentioned worked perfectly. Perhaps the intensity of his dialogues were perfect for the serious nature of these films. Hey ram is once again the ultimate :thumbsup: (like there is any other department in which the film didnt excel). But when he writes for a film like 10A or MX, he writes quite witty lines and while we are in that elevated appreciation, then comes some lame dialogues perhaps to please all sections. But we end up thinking, oh... this is to please others... oh.. this is KH himself at his best.. etc., I don't know how to put it, but it interfered with the movie watching experience for me, KH the creator was too visible and I expend too much effort to guess his intention. I feel that smoothness is lacking :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
But I myself am feeling ashamed... Kamal ivlo pannadhuku appramum avar work'la nottu kandu pidikradhu romba over thaan. I cant resist comparing with sivaji, where eventhough the whole movie was a bit of letdown, everybody were on the money to mention that Rajni did his part, no complaints, only the director is there to blame. He emerged unscathed like always. But even when nammavar takes so much effort, excels in so many departments and even after the film met the expectations better than what Sivaji managed, finger is being pointed at him, every minor flaw discussed to the core, people think out of their skin to identify what is wrong with the film, I just dont see the point.
Those who couldnt appreciate his earlier perfect films have no rights to complain abt these little imperfections. But even I'm finding flaws with 10A, but I think as a fan I'm excused :P :ashamed:
This comparison with Rajini is a nondi kudhirai saakku.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamizhvaanan
Rajini does not put "Story Screen play direction " in titles. Rajini doesn't tell Camera man how to light up the scene. Rajini doesn't come to the first day of the shoot and says 'packup to the director'.
So Rajini is not responsible for anything else except his own style, mannerisms and to an extent his performance. I guess you will understand that.
With big powers come big responsibilities says a dialogue in Chpiderman.
I guess it applies to Kamal. He assumes big powers over his projects and finally director says the film is all about kamal and it also means - if you did not like something in the movie - it is also kamal's share.
First things first...Kamal has astouned and made many a people think what they are doing with his quality story, screenplay, direction, and ofcourse acting.
More than the Creator or Actor its his Passion for quality Cinema and Intelligence that shows. When every actor does some crap stuff at 50 (running around the trees with a 16 year old, wearing misfit clothes ( -deleted-), he makes sure he creates a platform for himself everytime.
Its good to see such bashing criticism for DASA. This clearly proves the so called CRITICS themselves arent intelligent. Kamal's movies are like Rahman's songs... The deeper you watch the more you explore. For the layman it might be a short story...for those who watch it with passion its an epic.
Hope Kamal directs Rajini and makes a strong movie that can go international cutting across language and caste barriers.
1. It's independentQuote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
2. Enna oru condescension :notworthy:
Well said! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes