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kandippa, No Smoking fantasy dhaan........but if Anurag Kashyap keeps making No Smokings and No Drinkings with surrealism and his supporters keep telling he is the most gutsy director and realistic then i would call Anurag Kashyap "overhyped" ......Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
yes, and not hide behind the "supposed" ignorance of this poor tamil movie fan, who has given blockbusters to efforts like nayagan, mudhal mariyadhai, paruthiveeran etc......Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
come to think of it, no. of good movies that run in tamil is much higher than that of indhi.....then where is the problem yaa :x .......why cant tamil directors give good movies and uplift the standards alltogether?? i watched Chennai-28 in theater and rendu in dvd - come on :D ......improve ur writing skills, i say and stop hiding behind culture, language, barriers, ajith-vijay fans' ignorance etc...
PR, I dont want to go into that. I already said that the fact that a movie like Maqbool can be made and released is a victory for bollywood, never mind profits, and that is a state we must aspire for. But we must remember that Kerala had great success with that in 80's, and early 90's. Today look at them - how do you explain that? Time. Circumstances, ennAla avLO dhAn solla mudiyum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
Kamal-ku creative juices pOradhukkuLLa, inge andha nelamai vandhA sandhosham dhaan - I wonder what not can he achieve if he didnt have to justify box office returns - the kind of freedom with which Kashyap and Bhardwaj swing their bats, if people like Kamal and Bala have it....
The answer to most of the questions - to a large part I won't say that is the only problem - is that there aren't as many good creators around.
Even if that is not the biggest reason I find people are trying to look the other way about this all the time.
Kamal - the writer/creator - is a cut above the rest because something intangibly huger than the content as such. I can't place a finger on it. It is an overall sense of characterizations and depth..which is woefully inadequate.
That subramaniapuram is being passed off as 'true to its chosen milieu' is something I find unacceptable. Thankfully Nadodigal was not. But I wonder if Nadodigal had been released first and then Su.Pu how the reactions would have been. adhai thaan sonnEn.
True there is no VKK in Hindi. As I said earlier..the nature of the language is such. Perhaps set it in some place in UP such that the dialect is not intelligible to many. But if such a movie - in whatever labguage that would end up being in- were made I am certain they have the writers to be able to do justice to 'reality' of the characterizations.
Gulaal - a very ordinary, localized film. But convincing was never a problem - even though it had outrageous characters. Thamizh-la ezhudhiruvaangannu 'ndreengaLA ?
Well put, Plum. Let's hope so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
PR, I dont think Abbas Tyrewallah can write a Paruthiveeran. Didnt see Gulaal.
What's his name, the Jab We Met kid, he surely cannot write a Virumandi.
(Infact, I really wonder how accurate the punjabiyat of Jab We Met is. A few portions were jarring when I saw it - cant remember now)
Remember the "okati ledhu" of Virumandi? Hindi-la oruthan porakkalingarEn, apdi ezhudharathukku.
this is what i saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Prabhu Ram
plum, PR-e sollittaru, ippavadhu othhukkongo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Lack of talent- well, give it some time. As and when the industry has grown to an extent that financing, production and distribution of independent and/or offbeat cinema is possible, the talented writer/director/auteur will emerge, in numbers.
solla enna irukku Maddy. I grant all that already. The only gripe I have with your views is placing Bala below a Kashyap or Bhardwaj. He is no less. In some ways, Naan KadavuL or Pithamagan is a movie that Bollywood can never make and release, forget making a box office hit of it.
Last 2 weeks, 10 movies released in Bollywood, do you know that? How many of them were memorable? I guess from BR's site that only a few of them were released in Chennai. There is even a Bollywood ritheesh, a visually challenged guy from London who produced, wrote and starred in a dud! IdhellAm nIngaLLAm miss pandreengannu nenaikkaaren. What I am saying is there are equal number of duds of equal quality in Bollywood also. Sometimes, people down south only see the best of Bollywood and compare it to Pasanga, Naturally, kollywood loses deposit there.
As I agreed, where they score is that some movies they make, no way it can be made in Tamil now. Then again, we agreed, for whatever reasons, that they cant make a paruthiveeran. I contend that neither Kashyap, nor Tyrewala, nor the Jab We met kid can write a paruthiveeran or Naan KadavuL or Virumandi.
Inga oru note:
Love Aajkals Savaraajs >> Films like the one that guy Hari doing (Madurai based!). Beauty enna na even in the herd game, these guys are pretty late. This should have come during the time of Sullan, Sivakasi etc...