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Plum, I presume that the point driven by Sakala and Kalyan is not abt powers of god or individual beliefs. Its more abt vilification of a subset of people alone and turning blind eye to the other groups in the name of atheism / paguththarivu / secularism etc
And as regards "will you make fun of X the same way you do to Y", I think someone recently asked me the same "will you make fun of kamal and IR the same way as you do of abhishek".
The answer,dudes and dudettes, is why should I? If you want kamal to be made fun of do it yourself. I will only do that if I find his actions funny. I don't have to maintain a balance :huh:
For kamal, hindu way of life is first hand experience.others are academic knowledge so hindu examples(especially jaadhi veRi - the ones referred to in dasa by paatti - sheer contempt for "low" castes, which I can vouch for lies upto previous generation of mine and my gen too) might come - as Raju would put it - "apdiyE varradhu dhaan illai".
Menakettu pOi muslim atrocity pathi edukkaNumnA, google search paNNi quiz answer pandrA maadhri dhaan.
then this is not atheism / paguththarivu / neutralism. Just age old hindu bashing. Illayaa?
Sathya, my prev post was before seeing yours. So it wasn't addressed at you
So this is not about God right? It is about communities - which again boils down to human tenendcy to group and divide.
Now, telugu mainstream movies are unabashedly anti-muslim unsubtly. I sometimes wonder why there is no protests even in hyderabad. Muslim villification virumbaravanga adhai paarthukkunga. Ange hindu villification virumbaravanga inge vandhu kamal padam paarthukattum :)
Plum, its also about nakkals and kindals on a specific comm, even without the god reference. one example is what i posted last page, the paarpana magalir issue. (overall this is a small issue but..)
Labels don't matter. If he was born in Europe, he would have done the same with cath/chris. Ofcourse, it is tough to do that in the other major religion's countries adhu vEra vishayam :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
I'd still retain pagutharivu - infact the word has been abused by our 20th century tn movements but kamal is perhaps slyly taking a dig at them as well
Sakalakv, people have pet hates. Big deal. Even here, when I make fun of x whom hubber y doesn't like, he responds with an :exactly: or :lol: but same hubber reacts with :angry: if I make fun of his favourite. Basically, there are certain groups and individuals who tickle your sense of satire more than others.
Even though Kamal claims himself as athiest, several times, his subtle messages in the movies derived from Hindu Philosophy. He does not believe in customs and myths of hinduism but still I think he believes in underlying principles of hinduism and god.
Plum, my posts were also generic ones trying to find out intentions behind preachings, POV etc. Coming to ur posts, the question arises only when someone proclaims as atheist, paguththarivaaLan etc and condemn, vilify, mock at a particular section. If somebody claims to be a member of a particular religion and mock at others, thats understandable (though its wrong). But, y a neutral / atheist condemn only one section? Either he / she condemns all religions or ideologies that preach god. Or don't condemn anyone. what is the point this neutral is trying to prove by vilifying one particular group?
You're passive and Inert - slant towards neither - Atheistic nor Theistic - like Mani's films.. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Plum
If both atheists and theists maintain such passivism or rather pacificism & keep their views to themselves, there will be more of a harmony.