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Balaji !
I think the song u mentioned is from "manam oru kurangu"
"beautiful.. marvellous excelent.. very very excellent..
nee piRandhirukka vENdiyadhu EnglaNd"
even in latest song "tirunelveli alwa-da" is having names of many towns..
limited names appear in songs like "kanchi pattuduthi" from "vayasu poNNu" and "kutrAla malaiyilE kudhithu vandha thamizhilE" from "uyirA mAnamA"
Madhu,Quote:
Originally Posted by madhu
Kanji paduthi kasturi pottu vaithu - Lovely song - KJY and music by MSV. I think Jay Ganesh and Roja ramani were the stars in that song
Kutrala alayilay - I think Muthuraman and ??? paired on that song. I think Sirgazi sang that song . Thats nice song as well
Hi Balaji !
the actress in "kutrala malaiyilE" is Krishnakumari, sister of Sowcar Janaki.
Oh my God, she will look like some Russian woman !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by madhu
We used to call her as KKMari !!!!!
Pick #145
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/santhanam_tk.rm
Song: sandhanam poosa
Film: thudikkum karangaL
Singers: Sjanaki, SPB
Lyrics: Pulamaipithan
Music: SPB
Song sponsor Naaz. He writes:
With Thudikkum Karangal, Sridhar grabbed the neck of his own imagination, and didn't let go. Call it wishful (non)thinking or creative epilepsy (note title) this film did not do what he'd hoped it would do for him: keep him au courant, viable and relevant. Didn't happen.
Rajnikanth, Radha, Jai Shankar and Sujatha were as bad (or good) as they can be, and while I remember precious little about the film, some unforgettable lines by the thudikkum (or thudikka vaikkappatta?) janangal after the lights still burn up like halogens.
I'll spare you :-)
SP Balasubramaniam scored the music, and the songs have the signature elements of all the MDs he has sung for. The featured duet captures this diversity within the arrangement, particularly in the interludes, transitions, chorus sections. For all that is derivative, the tune locks you into a zany lilt, perfect for a vacant moment - or few.
A balm. For those who'd left their keys behind.
Sandhanam poosa manjal nilaavum
Vandhanam enru nenjil ulaavum naeram
Vinnilavu paalootta pennilavu thaalaatta
Neelaambari kaetkalaam
Maanikka megangal vairangal vinmeengal
Naan thandha kaadhal seedhanam
Maanikka megangal vairangal vinmeengal
Naan thandha kaadhal seedhanam
Ilavaenir kaalangal reengaara naadhangal
Isai vandu paadum moganam
Nee paarkkum naerangal nilam paarkkum naanangal
Nenjukkul aedho seidhana
Nee paarkkum naerangal nilam paarkkum naanangal
Nenjukkul aedho seidhana
Idhamaaga mai pottu imaiyennum kai pottu
Un kanngal ennaik koidhana
Ramki,
Another song - Adadaa edhuthan sugamo . SPB and SJ in Thudikum karangal. Nice one
I hear SPB's composing style is to hum the complete tune to his assistants and leave the rest to them. I dont think he even decides the interludes.So, the orchestration and arrangement credit must go to his assistants - probably the assistants had imbibed standard stuff from MD's they had worked with previously and hence all the elements from previous MD's.
Anyone has further insider info?
another noteworthy song is : megam munthanai by SPB, VJ
SPB's music was good in sigaram and the latest unnidam saranadainthen where IR, MSV and SPB together sing a song abt friendship
YVSMani,Quote:
Originally Posted by yvsmani
Yes you are right. Nice song as well. I feel SPB did fairly well in that movie. Could not understand why he didnt pursue with MD .
Yes, Sikaram - Edho edho en pallavi , Agaram eppo sigaram aachu
nice songs.
Ramki -
Manjalum Sandhanamum....Semmaththiyaana Poosal! :D Aduththadhu Kunkumam? Trinity, Trident, Touche?
Thanks for featuring this duet - it has been worth the wait!
"Sponsor" to me equals "Paid for By" (which I didn't) so "Courtesy" would work for me :) And thanks for overlooking the hearing (Vaan and not Naan Thandha) and transliteration glitches.
Does this song have a trace of "Ilaigal Meedhum Malargal Meedhum Pani Vizhum Kaalam?" (Janani?) in the interludes?
yvsmani -
I am not too fond of Megam Mundhaanai. Thenagaththil Holi? That's one reason. The other is the echo of "Koovungal Sevalgalae" (Raanuva Veeran) when I hear Megam. Just me, I guess?
However, Adada Ithudhaan is a lovely number. SJ-SPB = Spontaneous Combustion! :wink:
Thanks for the nice song Ramki. After reading the writeup where Naaz says that SPB's music resembles many other MDs, I tried to match this composition with others' and the closest I came to was Shankar-Ganesh. Naaz, yes it is very much like "ilaigaL mIdhum" which is by S-G from the film "Kulirkaala Megangal", which is also a Sridhar movie that was not that interesting to watch. The song from "Janani" is "konjum malar manjam" which is also a nice light-classical, by MSV. In general, SPB's music had a lot of HFM and TeFM influence, in my opinion.
Neel D -
So you hear the Ilaigal trace as well? Thanks!
And Konjum Malar Manjam is another fine duet. Isn't this the one where the line "Idaiyenna Iraivanaa?" can be heard? What a line! :wink:
In the featured duet, SPB pronounces Seedhanam as Seedhanovm (the m becomes more of a ovm sound?) I've noted this about his singing around similar words (Deivam becomes Dheiv-ovm in another song) Is this ending (inflection?) an accepted necessity in TFM? Say, like, Ilavaenir turning to Ilavaenil, or Nenjam scaled as Neljam? Can the experts enlighten please?
Ramki -
I have a rare IR song (ok, may not be so rare to you given your own personal collection :) ) which I will soon be sending your way...
Raj,
Very interesting. Thoudh he did very few films in tamil(sigaram, tk, thaiyalkaaran,unnidam saranadainthen) he did quite a number of telugu films. Mayuri and sigaram are my favorite albums.
Naaz you did pay , not by money but with time:). Looking forward to your IR song
Pick #146
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/azhagaaga_uk.rm
Song: azhagaaga nee aadu
Film: thanvinai thannaichudum
Singers: PSuseela, MLSrikanth
Lyrics:Thanjai Ananda Padmanabhan
Music: MLSrikanth
Thanks to NeelD for sending this rare song. He writes:
TFM has seen so many music directors over the years. Everyone of them
has contributed great songs and enriched TFM. However, it was always
one or two that dominated the industry, at any given time, and all
others had to just take the backseat and eventually disappear. Either
disappear from the scene totally, or move on to other languages or go
the devotional music way or just become a musician for other music
directors. M.L.Srikanth is one of those music directors. I don't know
how many films he has composed music for, but the most known is
"Ninaippathu Niraiverum". Of course, the title song "Ninaippathu
Niraiverum" from that film sung by M.L.Srikanth and Vani Jairam is
popular to this day. Another lovely song from the same movie is a
solo
by VJ "Ennendru Solvenadi". I don't know about other songs from that
film.
There are only five film songs that I know for sure were composed by
MLS, and I like them all. The already mentioned two songs from
"Ninaippathu Niraiverum" and three other songs, a duet by MLS&SJ, a
duet by MLS&PS and a solo by MLS.
The duet with SJ is "vaLLuvan kuRaLil sol eduppEn" from the film
"Kalyana Valaiyosai" which is quite popular though not often heard.
The
solo "kaNgaL thEduthu oLi engE" from the film "Pesu Maname Pesu" was
very popular in its days. But today I am presenting his duet with PS
-
"azhagAga nI Adu". It seems as though MLS wanted to sing a duet with
all famous female singers of the time. I wonder if he has sung any
with
LRE. I don't know what film "azagAga nI Adu" is from. Also I am only
guessing that he must have composed this song based on the style and
of
course because he is the singer.
Ramki: link work-layee..
RC ippo tryunga
Ramki: tyr-inen.. work-udhu.. Thanks!
Enakkum work pannalai Ramki.
Though I have not heard this song, being presented by Neel with good effort in finding, I would say this must be a good one.
MLS had good voice, in my view, better than AL Ragavan. Did not become popular though. Apart from Ninaippadu niraiverum (good duet though VJ steals the show), his humming in KAdhal kAdhal endru pEsa was really loevly. Complete fit for Ravichadran.
If am lucky, I will hear this song. We will come to know at least the year range, listening to PS voice.
Naaz :
regarding megan munthanai - i could feel similarity atlest in the beginning with koovungal sevalgalae......... but VJ's voice is a treat for me as usual
Ramki -
Anytime ! :)
Neel D -
Have never heard this one. PS brings a charming youthfulness in her rendition, and MLS wins with an earthy timbre. I'd also like to hear his duet with SJ - Irukaa?
yvsmani -
In Megam Mundhanai the singing is above par, but it is the tune and the "seval" ociation that really rubs me the wrong way :)
Are the linguists on leave?
Ramki,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramki
From the information Kalai gave me for updating PS list at psusheela.org
Song: azhagaaga nee aadu
Fim: Thanvinai thannaichchudum
Year: 1978
Music: M.L. Srikanth
Lyrics: Thanjai Ananda Padmanabhan
Actress: Padmapriya (do not know who the actor is)
Banner: Ananada Padmanaban Movies
Record: EMI
Neel/Ramki,
Can I use this file at psusheela.org along with sk's rare songs?
Thanks
Thenraja
Note: The song link works for me. I remember listening to this song on Radio many years ago.
Ramki, thanks for featuring the song I sent.
SN23, thanks for the confidence. It is a nice song. Hope you were able to listen to it.
Naaz, I have "vaLLuvan kuRaLil" by MLS&SJ with me. Just a couple of days ago I listened to another song on the radio which may be another duet by MLS&SJ. It goes something like "mottu virinthathu mullai malarnthathu siriththEn... udal silirththEn". But I dont have this song with me.
thenraja, thanks for the details. Please send me an email.
Neel,Quote:
Originally Posted by Neel D
I have sent a PM to you.
I happened to watch Thudikkum karangaL and wondered who the MD was, since there were MSV- and IR-type songs in it. Megam mundhAnai has a MSV touch, especially where the male goes "vAnam ennum kumari poNNU..." the MSV equivalent being "ennaikkum needhanadi enakku poNdAtti". There was one more number which reminded me of the MSV number "Imayam kandEN .. pon thottil kattum nEpaLathin ..." Still there were enough nonstandard musical elements (in the sense of not being from either of the musical stalwarts) which made me wonder if the music was by a non-regular TFM MD (like Manoj Gyan etc). Now I know it is by SPB. I love the mEgam mundhAnai song.
thenraja
Thank you for the details. I thik Jaiganesh was the hero in thanvinai thannaisudum.
If its ok with NeelD, I do not have any problem sharing the file with you.
Pick #147
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/uravugal_kak.rm
Song: uravugaL oru sirukadhaiyalla
Film: kaavalan avan kovalan
Singer: SPB
Lyrics:Vaali
Music: Vijay Anand
I had totally forgotten this cute song until a couple of weeks back. As soon as i started listening to it i was able to sing the full song. This was tiruchi and kovai vaanolis favorite and mine too. Vaalis vairamuthuvish lyrics combined with Vijay Anands music makes it a pleasant one. And ofcourse SPB sings it in his usual casual way.
KOK ,Visu's another flop movie had Prabhu(dual role),Rekha,Madhuri etc. Not sure about the story line but Vijayanand came with 3 good songs..todays pick, 'oruvanukku oruthiyena'(VJ, chitra) and one more song with MV,JC and Visu.
As far as i know VA did only 2 films: 'naan adimai illai' and KOK. Both had good songs but unfortunately he did not get many offers.Was he the MD for 'sannidhi pookaL'? FM?:)
ramki : intha pattai gyabagapadithiyatharkku nandri. I used to listen it in tiruchi vaanoli.
Ramki :)
Yes sanidhi pookaL MD is by VA. It had few good songs.
Thanks for the nice song Ramki. The song is trying to convey some story and serious emotions though the arrangement (mis)leads you to believe that this may be a happy song. Nice work!
I think Vijay Anand also composed music for Oorukku Upadesam (sounds like a Visu title). It had the seductive number "tharavA nAn thara vA" by VJ. We talked about this song at length in VJ thread.
Ramki -
Back to those transistor days with this one! Thanks! Hope your collection of these rarities is...mmm...err...bottomless! :)
Neel D beat me to the Tharavaa citation. One of my all time top VJ solos!
Got you PM. Will reply before the day is out.
Neel D -
Oorukku Upadesam was a filmaakam of Visu's Avargalukku Vayadhu Vandhuvittadhu stage-play, I think.
yvsmani -
Vaasam Veesum is a Vaasamaana song for sure!
I have the same "aanandha" feeling when I listen to "Andha Naeram Poruththirundhaal Nalla Anubhavam Kidaiththriukkum..."
Pillow Talk has never been so Pleasurable!
Pick #148
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/neepaadum_ekk.rm
Song: nee paadum paadal
Film: engaiyo ketta kural
Singer: SJanaki
Lyrics: Panju Arunachalam
Music: iLaiayraja
I often see people comparing Rajinikanth to MGR. IMO, Rajinikanth is a much much better actor than MGR. MGR was just a good looking
stuntsman with lots and lots of luck. Rajinikanth on the other hand is a versatile actor who could do villainy, comedy or drama in his own style. He did that until he got into the super star mould. After gaining his super start status , he very rarely did offbeat films . Engaiyo ketta kural is one such film. I thouroughly enjoyed his acting in EKK. He played the role of an innocent villager madly in love with his maaman magaL(Ambika) who elopes with jamindars son after giving birth to rajinis daughter. The transformation Rajini showed from a loose talking villager to emotionally cheated husband was an award winning performance.
Radha, who played sister to Ambika, and later marries Rajini gave an equally good performance. IMO Ambika was the weakest link of the film. She overplayed her role and was quiet irritating in the tail end of the movie(When she pleads mercy from Rajini).
Actress Meena played the daughter's role.
IR came up with 3 good songs
'thaiyum naane'(SJ)-my favorite
'pattu vanna selaikaari'(MV) and
'nee paadum'(SJ-todays pick).
The average song was 'aathoram kaathaada' By jency for Radha.
Naaz,Quote:
Originally Posted by Naaz
Pronouncing "am" as "au" is a common technique used by classical singers. While it may sound a little strange in light music, it just makes it easier to sing the legato when you don't pronounce the "am". Pronouncing the "am" makes you close the mouth and the continuity is lost, unless you proceed through the nose.
iLavEniRkAlanggaL may be right grammatically. But iLavEnil kAlanggaL is not necessarily wrong. Whichever (iR or il) makes the song sound beautiful can be chosen. I think SPB chose "il" because it went with the "iL"s in kAlanggaL and nANanggaL.
nenjam becomes neljam, which is another commonly used technique, if the song calls for holding the note too long on the "inj", or any oRRu for that matter. They add an extra oRRu to make it flow off the tongue smoothly. Otherwise, it will sound like the singer is struggling to sing.
Naaz and Neel,
Even while pronouncing the word.... KINNAM also ... I have heard some singers ... sa KILNAM...... Another mystery only... Probably experts can voice their opinion.
[quote].Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramki
Ramki,
I find your analysis of MGR with Rajini strange and unfounded.
What you mentioned as LOTS OF LUCK !!! is not true at all...
You had also mentioned.....
Probably you have little idea on who MGR was... and that had prompted you to comment like that...
MGR with his limitations as an actor but successfully and briallliantly positioned himself in the industry from various angles like :
1. Stunt fights
2. Excellent songs ..... Nobody can question MGR's taste on this.... the fact that Shankar Ganesh did some great songs is a testimony to MGR's flair for music.
3. Excellent picturisation.....
4. By the late 60s... it was quite evident that MGR was the shadow or defacto director for all his movies....
5. Ulgam sutrum vaaliban is a classic example of MGR's skills as a director....... Even the great KB found impossible to edit the scenes when he was requested by MGR to view the first release and acknowledged that MGR is great..
6. The way MGR positioned himself with the masses and spread the message of poor through his powerpacked songs ...
7. MGR .... if he had not taken up acting profession.. WOULD HAVE BECOME A SUCCESSFUL MARKETING PROFESSIONAL.... I say this emphatically ... because of the way he strategised himself for the elections and defeated a LEGEND Karunanidhi who is still a master of politics......
First of all.. comparing MGR with Rajini is absurd..... both are extremes....
I wish you withdraw your comments like..... MGR was lucky.....
You better go back by 40 - 50 years and check with your elders and they will let you know about THE GREAT MGR.
By the way, I am a fan of Rajini as well but I know the difference and distance between Rajini and MGR.
S.Balaji,Quote:
Originally Posted by S.Balaji
Like I said, "any oRRu" can be inflected.
Naaz, Neel D - In oorukku ubadhesam , urvasi played a double role.
Naaz - reg antha neram, especially the ending lines antha neram....... is superb. oru chinna voice modulation antha idaththil irukkum
S.Balaji,
Spare the ballistic missiles - All Ramki said was "Rajni, in his -Ramki's - opinion, was a better ACTOR than MGR.
None of what you said detracts that claim.
In any case, that was clearly posed as his OPINION.
We all forget to comprehend, right, before pouncing on others? :-)
Mate,Quote:
Originally Posted by rajdes
Mr. Ramki is a moderator !! and my missiles are all SCUDS !! harmless :)
Everybody knows what limitations MGR had as an ACTOR .
If you guys know at what age MGR reached his peak .. you will be amazed by his staying power.
What I have highlighted is a respose to his words ..... MGR WAS LUCKY...... ???
What does that convey ?? I wish Mr. Ramki comes out with his explanation on ... MGR IS LUCKY .....
Thanks for the excellent song Ramki. I loved the jency song too. EKK was a great movie.
Ananda Vikatan which reviewed Sakakala Vallavan the previous week and largely critical of the movies as a dud (Got some either 38/100 or 35-40 range, I am not sure), was all praise for EKK the following week from the same team of SPM, Panju and IR. It got 50+. Infact if I remember Ambika did get praise, much to my surprise. Saw the movie in Krishnaveni and my mother just loved the movie. Rajni at his best. Ir was simply superb. Songs were so pleasant to suit the mood. Pattu Vanna and Thayum Naane were excellent. (one of the few Malaysia Vasu songs I like because of the singer. SJ excels in Thayum Nane).
Unfortunately as we all know Sakakala Vallavan went on to create records and EKK truned out to be a average grosser, sealing the lid for Rajini to try anything different. Next year the same team gave Payum Puli (COpied scenes from 36 chamber) and did become a hit. Sorry state, Panju and SPM continued to create such duds. (For AVM and other banners)
Thanks once again
Bala