Have you seen the promotional interviews of Hey Ram and Thiruvasagam? Just curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkster
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Have you seen the promotional interviews of Hey Ram and Thiruvasagam? Just curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulkster
"The devil in me likes to actually see the rivals with their claws sharpened"
thumburu, there, you speak for me. I'd rather IR and ARR debate the merits of their school of thought than us.
Fair enough but geniuses don't debate, they create :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Debating and fighting fanboy wars is for us mortals, connoisseurs and "consumers"
CR, of course. Avanga enna nammala maadhiri joli illama thiriyarangala? Indha vetti pechu, kutti chuvar ellam namma dhaan - aanalum "mallakka paduthikittu..." from Winner gnabagam varudhu :-)
:exactly: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
nallA irukkE kadhai... appO En laddu kudththAnga?
Vysar - I really thought that he is passing on a strong message to the terrorists across the world that you choose love or hate and if you do choose love, you can go heights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vysar
I dont know ARR's true intentions, but I am going to continue to interprent the way I did and i think this is the best message someone can give to them.
What were your readings from those interview?!! just curious :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
Off the mark What are your current thoughts on RDB as a soundtrack?
RS,Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Self-trumpeting in those interviews. (Onnum illadha naama, naai nariyellam pannumbodhu Isaikkadavul panna yenna nu nyayama kekkalaam :lol: )
Not that conceit is a problem in itself (namma makkal 'humility', 'being humble' a orediya overrate panraangalo nu thonudhu) but its just that IR madhiri oru aal idhellam panna vendiya avasiyam enakku therila. I've noticed this on a few other occassions.
And his quick and sweeping dismissal of everything (music) that is contemporary as "popcorn music" (forgetting that he himself has given some immortal popcorn classics).
Not to nitpick but as a response to an assertion of IR's perceived anti-publicity image and alleged indifference to adulation etc...
RDB - Why do you ask? :)
A good soundtrack but i wouldn't trouble myself too much to have it on my playlist NOW. Would listen to "Loose control" for its "yaanai nenjula midhichufying" thump :)
"God gave me a choice of love and hate, I chose love thats why I am here."
hate, jealousy, cheating never gets a man the fame even if he stands upside down. you know to whom the reference go to.
"
Ada empa, adhaan Rahman-e sollitare Choose Love-nu - adhai quote pannittu adutha line-leye unga IR-hate-ai ipdi kottina epdi? Neenga konjam yoiskkalam illai?
Hey Ram-la IR-oda interview-va? Enna sonnar? Sariya gnabagam illai - but what I rememberr from it is an enthusiasm to describe in detail the process by which he arrived at the final score - and his joy at the discovery of this music in him. Ennale dhaan mudiyumnu arrogant-a sonna gnabagam illaye...
1) During Heyram interview , he mentioned that this is the first time it has happened in indian film industry and he is the pioneer for it .Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
2) In Lajja, he did say that only he can envision such a score ( with respect to title score) . In my view , its correct - but people r going to read different views here . What he meant by that , nobody knows !
I ahve seen contrasting statements from abt his own music , which matches with great artists in different mindsets !
FYIQuote:
Originally Posted by Vysar
ரஹ்மானின் ஆஸ்கார் விருது(கள்) பற்றி எவ்வளவோ எழுதப்பட்டுவிட்டது. அவர் அடைந்த வெற்றிகள், சிகரம் தொட்ட இசைக் கோலங்கள் இவற்றையெல்லாம் விட அவர் நேற்று ஆஸ்கார் மேடையில் சொன்ன ஒரு வாக்கியம் என்னை நெடு நேரம் யோசிக்க வைத்தது. நாள் பூராவும் அவற்றையே அசை போட்டுக் கொண்டிருந்தேன். அவை:
"All my life I've had a choice of hate and love, I chose love and I am here"
எவ்வளவு நிஜம்!
நேசத்தைத் தேர்ந்தெடுத்துக் கொண்டவர்கள் வெற்றிகளில் குளிக்கிறார்கள்
வெறுப்பை விதைப்பவர்கள் யுத்தங்களில் மடிகிறார்கள்!
Vysar, Learn to interpret in a correct way more importantly never in your own way. You are just disgracing yourself.
Shall we fall back from our distraction to discuss only about IR's new albums please! How often we chew the same stuff by grinding it back and forth like a 4 stomached cow.
Let's learn to move on guys!
IR's personality is one of the most confusing/ complicated ones (going by his interviews, books and speeches) - my understanding is that IR gives statements based on what he perceives/understands is the motive behind the interviewer's questions!
If IR gets even the slightest indication/feeling that someone is asking questions to either provoke him with a controversial answer, take him for a ride, or show him in bad light, then the interviewer had it - the answer will be blunt, straightforward, like a slap-on-the-face!
I remember a DoorDharshan interview sometime in the early 1990s, when IR was happily answering questions, until the interviewer asked something he shd not have - it went something like "you are from a village(pattikkaadu), how do you manage to compose music that fits the urban mindset/requirement ?" - tat obviously ticked off IR and he replied "is being from a village inferior ? i dont like the tone of your language (unga tone sari illai)" or something like that - tat was in an interview with millions of ppl watching it in their homes!! the guy realized the politically incorrect question he had asked too late to even apologize or go back and rephrase his question
am sure that mediapersons must have ticked off IR in similar fashion and hence he avoids them like plague. And even when he does answer questions, he carefully avoids direct remarks about anyone/anything, unless and until prompted by the interviewer with an obvious ill-intent and then he has to face IR's verbal 'music'!!
If a truely music-knowledgeable person approaches IR with a sincere attitude and poses questions, IR wud be equally sincere - or even if that some1 does not have anything to do with music, if he/she approaches IR with sincerity, am sure he wud deal with them amicably- vambu, vidhandaavaadham, appadeennu alaiyaravangalai IR ignores them - I see nothing wrong with it!
having said all this, let me imagine a hypothetical situation of IR being nominated for the Oscars - and the jury asks IR some questions about his music/the techniques he employs and our man, depending on his perception of the jury's intentions wud either reply positively, or simply tell them "oru paravai parakkumbodhu, adhu siragai evvaru viruthhu parandhadhu endru kettal, paravai yenna sollum ? adhu pol thaan en isaiyum" or something similar and the jury wud be left scratching their heads!
[quote="irir123"]IR's personality is one of the most confusing/ complicated ones (going by his interviews, books and speeches) - my understanding is that IR gives statements based on what he perceives/understands is the motive behind the interviewer's questions!
If IR gets even the slightest indication/feeling that someone is asking questions to either provoke him with a controversial answer, take him for a ride, or show him in bad light, then the interviewer had it - the answer will be blunt, straightforward, like a slap-on-the-face!
I remember a DoorDharshan interview sometime in the early 1990s, when IR was happily answering questions, until the interviewer asked something he shd not have - it went something like "you are from a village(pattikkaadu), how do you manage to compose music that fits the urban mindset/requirement ?" - tat obviously ticked off IR and he replied "is being from a village inferior ? i dont like the tone of your language (unga tone sari illai)" or something like that - tat was in an interview with millions of ppl watching it in their homes!! the guy realized the politically incorrect question he had asked too late to even apologize or go back and rephrase his question
am sure that mediapersons must have ticked off IR in similar fashion and hence he avoids them like plague. And even when he does answer questions, he carefully avoids direct remarks about anyone/anything, unless and until prompted by the interviewer with an obvious ill-intent and then he has to face IR's verbal 'music'!!
If a truely music-knowledgeable person approaches IR with a sincere attitude and poses questions, IR wud be equally sincere - or even if that some1 does not have anything to do with music, if he/she approaches IR with sincerity, am sure he wud deal with them amicably- vambu, vidhandaavaadham, appadeennu alaiyaravangalai IR ignores them - I see nothing wrong with it!
having said all this, let me imagine a hypothetical situation of IR being nominated for the Oscars - and the jury asks IR some questions about his music/the techniques he employs and our man, depending on his perception of the jury's intentions wud either reply positively, or simply tell them "oru paravai parakkumbodhu, adhu siragai evvaru viruthhu parandhadhu endru kettal, paravai yenna sollum ? adhu pol thaan en isaiyum" or something similar and the jury wud be left scratching their heads![/quote]
:lol: :lol:
Point taken sir. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fliflo
We are just hungry for new albums of IR. Hope JM comes in now.
Bala, I have seen them but i feel that he is not that arrogant as perceived. He is one who mentioned he is just doing whatever crumbs left behind by thyagaraja and bach before. I do understand his scientific/philosophic view of music is a nightmare for the media which is given to us in a arrogant way.
"1) During Heyram interview , he mentioned that this is the first time it has happened in indian film industry and he is the pioneer for it . "
Enakku therinju, he used the phrase "Enakku therinju" before saying this. Illainaalu, this might well be a statement of fact.
This is really shocking :shock:
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-25-02-09.html
BM was responsible for giving away the National award to Rahman instead of Raaja.Quote:
As expected, the actual purpose of the event was rather eclipsed by the joy that was brought by Rahman’s double Oscar victory. Speaking at the function, Balu Mahendra reminisced about the first steps of Rahman into the music world. He recalled that he was the chairman of the jury deciding the National Awards in the year when both Roja and Devar Magan were released. He was in mental turmoil when both the movies were neck to neck when it came to the award for best music. Since he was a very close friend of Ilayaraja, he decided to stay away from the jury because he felt that his friendship might prevent him from making the right decision. But as fate would have it, the ballot by the rest of the jury turned out to be a deadlock and it was up to the chairman to bring in his casting ballot. It was a tough decision to make, but he put his trust in God and cast the vote in favor Rahman, hoping to spur the young man on to greater heights. Today, he said, that his 16 year old decision stood vindicated.
At first I was digusted at the 'Karugaalithanam' of BM... Few seconds later it gives me immense pleasure to understand him - What a noble gesture by Balu Mahendra! he should have known DM was musically superior to Roja (Apart from the friendship with Raaja) and still gave away the award :thumbsup:
...and Raaja had maintained his friendship with BM till date shows the amount of maturity he has and the degree of importance to an award he gives.
This adds on to my respect over Raaja and shows what his fans should take from his life. What I said yesterday is validated now 'Its afterall an award'. So stop whining kids and move on... :)
It seems it was a deadlock in deciding on who would be the national award winner (for music) between "Roja" and "Thevar Magan":
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...-25-02-09.html
thanks,
Krishnan
Good pick RS
news to me
For people like Vyasar, this comes as a view from other side.
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicD...le.aspx?id=409
For people like Vyasar, this comes as a view from other side.
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicD...le.aspx?id=409
For people like Vyasar, this comes as a view from other side.
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicD...le.aspx?id=409
Sorry for that multiple postings :)
RS, :-). On IR's opinion on awards, adhe dhaan. IR's attitude to recognition, I remember posting before, should be surmised from his lack of cooperation with his own fans trying to make selfless efforts to promote his music. Idhukku mela, words, speeches ellam analyse pandradhu waste. His actions speak.
On Roja vs Devar Magan, while what you say about IR's maturity is true, I dont agree about BM's noble gesture. While I wouldnt call it a betrayal of his friendship to IR, I would call it a betrayal of his commitment to the art of cinema. It was right of him to leave the decision to the jury in the first place because of his friendship with IR - now that sort of behaviour, you can hardly see - when the bollywood types head the jury, they give awards keeping in mind their friendships and a view to impress producers to give them chance - I remember Hum Tum got awards becuse the jury chairman was an Hindi alternate cinema director who wasy trying to get an opp with Yashraj films that time. So, yes, that was a noble gesture by Balu M. But casting the casting vote in favour of Roja wasnt. As a soundtrack for a movie, and BGM, Thevar Magan was superior to Roja. Clearly Balu says he gave it to Rahman to encourage the youngster. So that shows what he thought of the relative merits of the soundtracks as a soundtrack for movie. This being the case, choosing Roja was 'droham' to the art of cinema that he stayed fidel to for years.
I would put it this way - if we have a Grammy and Oscar equivalent in India, Roja could have got Grammy(for breaking new ground in popular music arena) but the oscar should go to Thevar Magan because we are evaluating a movie sound track. While that is only my opinion, the reason i am saying this is that cleraly that seems to be BM's opinion, and he seems to have given the NA like it were grammy while it is actually closer to Oscar.
raja_fan, let's ignore Vysar. I think the first two letters in his name stand for Vayatherichal :-)
That said, the religious politics discussed in your link is distasteful.
I actually wonder how many of this close battles actually happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
raja_fan himself is one who can be termed as hardline hindu fanatic (My observation through his rants and reviews). Its not surprising that he comes up with such obscure links to defame ARR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Religion is the last thing we want to come down in this topic. I think its better we focus on our own music if not what Maddy has been saying that ARR features more than IR here is being proven right. :banghead:
Talking about national award, forget devar magan, which person or jury managed to ignore guru(malayalam),hey ram, kalapaani? When these films can get ignored then its surely politics.
:exactly: enakkum pala thadavai thoNirukku.Quote:
Originally Posted by crajkumar_be
This explains the character of IR as well as BM. I am sure after taking that decision, BM would hv informed IR about it. Has IR or BM opened their mouth about this for last 17 years, never.Quote:
Originally Posted by rajasaranam
Who else is the best person to understand IR other than BM, so what he had done was right in his point of view having known IR for more than 2 decades. (Ofcorse BM was/is well aware that these national awards matter nothing to IR). On the other hand as plum put it optly, any other jury in his place would hv done the opposite, but as it turned out to be BM was/is friend of IR , he decided otherway.
A wonderful case of reading in between the lines and completely misinterpreting and deviating from a simple point. I am amazed that so much can be read into a very neutral statement of choosing love over hate. For everything we do, appreciate or denounce, there has to be a religious angle, despite the person in question being non-controversial and peace-loving person (every musician is... not just this guy. everyone who makes music usually seeks peace without hurting religions.even IR). I am sure this writer will not spare even Yesudas, if Yesudas says that he led a peaceful way of life ( this author will then read it as - That means a Non-christian will not lead peaceful way of life, which is like an attack on Hindus... How mean!! ). So instead of Love/hate dialogue, he should have said Vandemataram.Ya,it is immaterial if he said/sang vandemataram 1000 times in many places, but the author has a problem with he not saying vandemataram there! what next? Maniratnam was not thanked there?Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
raja-fan, honestly speaking, i felt that the author thought far too much into simple things and tried to take out something unintended.
And Really sad that there are perspectives like these too. No wonder, Indians enjoy blame-game, when it comes to religion, which infact is or rather should be very personal to everyone. and does the author know atleast that the person he was talking about did compose some beautiful 'Hindu' bhajans (or say Hinduism filled songs). How can someone do that if he Hated it?
anyways, this post itself is irrelevant here. My reply even more is.But just couldnt help responding, looking at the mind of the author and the thoughts he put across.
Sorry man, i couldnt help it!!Quote:
(every musician is... not just this guy. everyone who makes music usually seeks peace without hurting religions.even IR).
Adhula maatru karuthu irukkadhu nu nenaikkaren :) (No two ways about it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
The operating keywords are "oblivious to recognition, fame, publicity" etc...
Looks like Gulzar had nice time experimenting with words while working with IR for the movie "SRK":
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2009/02/25/12583/
Bad that there is no news of the audio/movie release!
thanks,
Krishnan
CR, ok, andha interview paarkama naan pesaradhu thappu. But since I am discussing with you, and we know that we have not marked our positions and sticking to it come what may, I want to understand this further:
1) Avaru, "naan ipdi ellam pandren, ennai yaarum recongize pannalai" apdingara maadhiri pesinara?
2) Illaina, "naan ipdi ellam panninaen. Ipdi vera endha payalayavadhu panni kaatta sollunga paarpom" apdindra maadhiri pesinara?
3)Or, was it plain "Naan ipdi ellam panninaen. Enakku therinju idukku munnadi yaarum ipdi pannalai" apdi sonnara?
4)Or was it "Naan ipdi ellam panninaen. Nichayama, idukku munnadi yaarum ipdi pannalai." apdi sonnara?
Plum,
Adhu avara thaan kekkanum :lol:
Enakku purinjavaraikkum, i don't think it is (1)!
Bottom line, do you get what i mean and why i mentioned about the interviews here?