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This discussion is going somewhere and I dont know where! I am off! :D
Adhu ! (in Ajith style)Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
That's not something that we changed on....Science told us to change on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
I'm talking about....Drastic Change.....The Practice of The Caste System. Changed with Cultural Evolution. No Science or Existing Record told us to change. It was a Realization....
And Hopefully True Pursuit Of Happiness and The Freedom Of Speech without the fear of being persecuted with brooms and slippers, will one day become a reality. :)
So What are the Conservatives' Views on some Muslim Practices like Multiple Wives? It's Consensual. It's Traditional for a Muslim Indian. What are your views on them. Just out of Curiosity. Tamiz, I'm Expecting an answer, please don't Abscond again. :thumbsup:
Surya :thumbsup:
Yeah, SCIENCE told us, NOT the SUPREME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by littlemaster1982
What are you talking about Tamiz? I never said there is a supreme. The Supreme wasn't the Point There!Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
You cant separate science and culture! Scientific inventions and consequences were changing the govt policies and there by culture!Quote:
I'm talking about....Drastic Change.....The Practice of The Caste System. Changed with Cultural Evolution. No Science or Existing Record told us to change. It was a Realization....
You are instigating here by bringing up a religion whuich you dont belong too. You could easily avoid this!Quote:
So What are the Conservatives' Views on some Muslim Practices like Multiple Wives? It's Consensual. It's Traditional for a Muslim Indian. What are your views on them. Just out of Curiosity. Tamiz, I'm Expecting an answer, please don't Abscond again. :thumbsup:
BINGO!!! So you could say that...Culture goes where Scientific Inventions go...am I right? Culture is Susceptible to Change through Scientific Innovations. So what are you opposing then? With the Technology that we have now, do you really think the same set of rules which once applied 500 Years Ago, In India, will still Apply with all the Developments, and So much more possibilities? As Humans aren't we prone to be more Curious? Don't you think you cannot come up with any practical reason to oppose these things (Keep in mind, all that u have said is tainted as all of it has been judged on pre-established moral codes), because they suit TODAY's WORLD! These things weren't there in India back then because it was a different Time! It was a different world. The world is changing, how can everything somehow remain the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamiz
And Please don't talk about the whores and Swingers! Lets talk about normal people. Not the kind you find in prison after a wave of Brothel Raids.
I had no intention to insult anyone or anyone's sentiments. I don't know if you've noticed, but I Don't SWING that way anymore. :roll:Quote:
You are instigating here by bringing up a religion whuich you dont belong too. You could easily avoid this!
But just give me an answer, if you have one that is. There isn't anything Offending that I will ever say... are you scared that what you say might make you sound offensive? :wink:
Vazhakam Pola, Kelvikku seriyaana badhil theriyalana Escape! :lol:
Seri, naanum thoongarean. :wave: :D
Honestly this discussion is sort of boring for me! I could not even get involved- not able to read your questions! :D
Boy, who is advocating divorce here? :x Execept in rare extreme instances divorce is another maldy of the global impact that has come to unsettle the minds of our youth carried away by 'consensual' concept! Failed marriages? How do they fail? And why? Again the children victimised by the wanton egoes of 2 self-centred persons. Thousands who assemble to witness a marriage bless the couple for successful marriage and nobody condones 'failed marriages'. Prove yourself at the home front first before setting out to show your prowess to the world!Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
sevidan kaathula sangoothuRa maathiri ithu oru vetti discussion! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
What you say makes no sense whatever! They are interrelated aspects of life! Grow up, boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
You are going at a tangent! Why drag irrelevant topics? We are not discussing or being judgemental( :huh: ) about another religion's set of practices. It is up to that sect to face the music. At least they managed legal sanction for their peculiar practices! And rarely do they come out of their ring to disturb the patterns of other lives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
What possibilities are you talking about? Humans prone to be curious!!! Resulting in school age pregnancy, freakish fashions like wife-swapping and what not are you not curious about? As humans you are equipped with a sixth sense called intelligence which helps you to discern the beastliness and humanness of your acts. In all your 'curious' acts are lurking the whores and swingers!!!! :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
then Cigerate smoking should banned. Smoke veliyida koodiya edhuvaa irundhaalum adha ban pannanum.... since smoke harms others....Quote:
Originally Posted by Surya
AC, Fridge naala ozone layer'la otta'nu solraanga( proven theory'yaanu theriyaadhu :roll: ) .... oruvela proven theory'yaa irundhaa AC, fridge'a kooda ban pannanum... saridhaana ?
aduththavaukku prachchana varaadha varaikkum naama panradhellaam sari'nu oru velakkenna theory. velangum :wave:
''ஆக, உங்கள் கருத்தில் இப்போது இன்னும் அழுத்தமாக இருக் கிறீர்கள்...''
''என் கருத்துன்னு எதைச் சொல்ல வர்றீங்க? 'கல்யாணத்துக்கு முன்னாடி பெண்கள் செக்ஸ் வெச்சுக்குறது தப்பில்லை'ன்னு நான் சொன்னதா இப்பவும் பலர் நினைச்சுட்டு இருக்காங்க. ஆனா, நான் அப்படிச் சொல்லலை. 'பெண்கள் ஒருவேளை திருமணத்துக்கு முன் செக்ஸ் வெச்சுக்க வேண்டி வந்தா, தக்க பாதுகாப்பு முறைகளைக் கையாளணும்!'னுதான் நான் சொன்னேன். ஆனா, அதைத் தங்களுக்கு வசதியான விதத்தில் திருத்திப் பரப்பிக்கிட்டாங்க, சில லோக்கல் அரசியல்வாதிகள். 'அதெல்லாம் தமிழ்ப் பெண்கள் திருமணத்துக்கு முன்னாடி செக்ஸ்வெச்சுக்க மாட்டாங்க'ன்னும் சிலர் குரல் கொடுக்கலாம். அப்படிச் சொன்னா, நம்ம கண்ணை நாமே இறுக்கமா மூடிட்டு இருக்கோம்னு அர்த்தம். இந்தியா எய்ட்ஸ் கேபிட்டல் ஆகுற நாள் தூரத்தில் இல்லை. எய்ட்ஸ் பாதிக்கப்பட்ட பெண்ணை மிக மோசமா ஒதுக்கிவைக்கும் சமூகம் நம் சமூகம். அங்கேதானே எய்ட்ஸ் பாதிக்காமல் இருப்பதற்கான விழிப்பு உணர்ச்சியை ஏற்படுத்தணும். 'அப்படில்லாம் பண்ணாதே'னு சொன்னா, நான் கேக்க மாட்டேன். தொடர்ந்து பண்ணிட்டுதான் இருப்பேன்!''
- குஷ்பு
:lol: PP Ma'am ur so much Fun! :D
NO ONE!! :huh: Did I say anyone was? :lol2: The point was the same procedures (As the fate of a resultant child would be in a failed marriage) can be used! That's the point I was trying to make, that's why I saidQuote:
Boy, who is advocating divorce here?
:thumbsup:Quote:
do u think that in Yesterday's India (say...the eighties) the amount of orphans were all because of Conception out of wedlock? I'm actually curious... I'm not making a point there.
never said anyone did. :?Quote:
Thousands who assemble to witness a marriage bless the couple for successful marriage and nobody condones 'failed marriages'.
:lol:Quote:
Failed marriages? How do they fail? And why? Again the children victimised by the wanton egoes of 2 self-centred persons.
Yes!! How dare there be such an option as divorce which empowers ppl to have a life rather than being stuck in a rut with a person u don't love!! :evil: How dare u take ur own decisions!!! LISTEN TO THE ALMIGHTY MORALE ELITE!!! Live the rest of ur life with a person u don't love or in some cases even like, because it's the Morale thing to do according to our culture which promotes higher quality of LIFE! :thumbsup: :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by I
That feeling is mutual! :lol: that's why I called it a vetti discussion to being with. But if I remember correctly, somebody got so very pissed off :lol2: Because enna sonnalum, there's no way I can perticipate in this discussion as long as u've been into the whole "Higher Quality Of Life" Extravaganza!Quote:
sevidan kaathula sangoothuRa maathiri ithu oru vetti discussion!
Enna idhu, chinna pulla thanama-le irukku! :roll:Quote:
What you say makes no sense whatever! They are interrelated aspects of life!
Abortion and Pre-Marital sex are inter-related, but not when discussing the Morality of Premarital sex ALONE! If Abortion is MURDER, and not Morale, then the same can be said for Married couple who want to Abort as well!!
Abortion is a Discussion on its own, the morality of ABORTION remains the same regardless of the legal bond of the couple involved!
u think that in Yesterday's India (say...the eighties) the amount of orphans were all because of Conception out of wedlock? Including Fetuses Formed due to Extramarital Affairs which no one here advocates just to be clear. :lol2:
By blindly following the conservatives of ur generation just so that they may get an ego boost because it makes them feel like they have a say in the lives of today's youth? No thanks then, I'd rather be a Little Boy who lives life on his own terms, makes money, gets laid with hot girls and settles down when he finds the right one! :thumbsup:Quote:
Grow up, boy!
(Not talking abt parents just to be sure, they've got all the rights to "QUESTION".....ellathaiyum repetedly explain panna vendirukku illaina katha aaramichuduvaange. :oops: :lol2:
But I thought the activities of individuals mattered in a Society. :? :huh: Isn't that what u said? The HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE (Oruthanukku Oruthi Concept), which i presume isn't just a code for Hindus, but for HUMANKIND, since we're talking abt the quality of life in general, isn't applicable for people of the Islamic Faith because??? :huh: It's not in their belief system? :huh: their belief system is different? :huh: But in that case, the belief system of several youth is also different, maybe not on the basis of religion, but the difference still exists. R u saying that This Universal Code is only applicable to Hindu/Xtian Boys and Girls? :huh:Quote:
We are not discussing or being judgemental( :huh:?! ) about another religion's set of practices. It is up to that sect to face the music.
And I'm going at a Tangent? :lol:
What you say makes no sense whatever! They are interrelated aspects of Society right? :huh: Grow up Girl! :mrgreen:Quote:
You are going at a tangent! Why drag irrelevant topics?
:lol:Quote:
At least they managed legal sanction for their peculiar practices!
Pre-Marital Sex is also Legally Sanctioned! :lol2: It ain't illegal. Just because something is on the "Culture Nazi" List doesn't make it illegal by Law! The most that can be said is "NO CULTURE FO U! as in Seinfeld's Soup Nazi! :thumbsup: :lol2:
Kaamedy Pannadheenge! :lol:Quote:
Resulting in school age pregnancy, freakish fashions like wife-swapping and what not are you not curious about?
Evalo Vaati Solradhu?? :x Why is it that only this portion of a free society taken to be it's representative? :? Talk abt normal people, normal live in relationships, Pre-Marital sex doesn't just talk abt Sexual relations between School Students!! :banghead:
In that same logic, it's like me saying "U wanna follow Indian Culture? For What? To Follow the Centuries of Oppression and Human Rights Violation?? Resulting in the burning of widows???" :notthatway: :x Get the Drift? :wink:
Am I accidentally Typing in Cantonese or something? :lol2: :oops:
Oh My Sweet Babies Krishna and Jesus! :roll: So many Holes....... in Arguement....Massive Tear....... is....... Imminent! :lol2:
U think PMS is beast like.. That's ur opinion which u are entitled too. just don't try to shove it in the mouths of another. This is a free Country the last time I checked! :thumbsup: To me, "Beastlike" is forcing someone to accept a lifestyle they don't want, and forcing them live it. :huh:Quote:
As humans you are equipped with a sixth sense called intelligence which helps you to discern the beastliness and humanness of your acts.
Yes! :rotfl: On The DOT! :lol: Whores never existed in Indian Society all this while. Suddenly Aliens came to India and with the wave of a Magic Wand, The Indian Whores were Born! :2thumbsup:Quote:
In all your 'curious' acts are lurking the whores and swingers!!!!
And Curiosity only refers to the newly mutated Whores, and notthing else? :lol2:
Modhalle idhukkellam oru Convincing Badhil Sollunge! Adhe vittutu "Newly Mutated Whores" and "Swingers" Lottu Loskunu! :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by I
Tension aagi katharudhu Unmai Aagadhu....8-)
It is "theoretically" banned to smoke in public places, adhe yaarum enforce pannalaina enna seiya? :huh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarna
AC, Fridge, Global Warming, ithellam very serious issues, and something must be done, but we Don't have a solution yet, people are working on it tho, so we're forced to deal with the status quo. AC Illame vaalamudiyuma? Adhuvum Chennaila? :lol: :) Once alternative Fuels etc are are found, ithukku oru solution varrum... but sexual Preference and choice is something thats different from the O-Zone. :)
Sabash!!! :clap: Don't change ur stand just because a buncha "Morally Awesome" Individuals storm into ur office with Brooms and Slippers. 8-)Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
:omg: So long for me to realise I'm banging my head against a wall! The futility and foolishness of the act is enough to cry shame on me! :oops:
:lol: Whatever Works!! :2thumbsup:
:roll: :P
"Khap (caste) panchayat: signs of desperation?"
http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/lea...?homepage=true
http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/Rea...icle409862.ece
We wouldn't call this "Talibanization" because this is happening in India!!
:cry:
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Originally Posted by raagadevan
:banghead: and we're in 2010!Quote:
The number of cases in which the totally unconstitutional caste panchayats have openly defied the law of the land by issuing illegal diktats has increased manifold. Attacks on young couples, Dalits and progressive-minded people have become frequent.
மதக் கலவரம் நடத்த ரூ.60 லட்சம் 'பீஸ்'-முத்தலிக்கை அம்பலப்படுத்திய தெஹல்கா!
http://thatstamil.oneindia.in/news/2...-tv-sting.html
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/97235/Top%20Stories/'Sri+Ram+Sene+ready+to+riot+for+money'+.html#comme nt
athennamao pothuvagavE matha katchi thaivargal ellam arai vekkadukalagavE iukkanunga
Our so called 'Indian Moral and Culture'
Jai Bharatha matha :banghead:
India's Orissa state in boyfriend sex video warning
By Sandeep Sahu
BBC News, Bhubaneswar
The campaign will warn women against rushing into physical relationships
Authorities in India's Orissa state are issuing warnings after incidents where footage of women in bed with their boyfriends was sold as sex videos.
Officials are launching a campaign to warn young women about the dangers of rushing into a physical relationship.
It follows several cases of women being secretly filmed by their boyfriends naked or having sex.
Reports say one woman attempted suicide after footage of her ended up being sold as pornographic material.
Most such videos are sold in markets or shared on the internet.
"It is a serious concern and we need to act fast," chairperson of the Orissa State Women's Commission Jyoti Panigrahi told the BBC, adding that the campaign is targeted at college students.
Non-governmental organisations working on women's issues will also be involved in the campaign.
Ms Panigrahi said parents needed to monitor the movements of their daughters and keep an eye on their activities and friends.
Suicide attempt
One 22-year-old woman from Kamkshanagar in Dhenkanal district attempted suicide and is being treated in hospital, after footage of her was sold. Police say that a similar case involving another couple was reported around the same time.
Police have raided shops selling video CDs and seized hundreds of CDs of the two women.
Lawyers in Kamakshanagar have held a protest rally demanding the immediate arrest of the "boyfriends" involved.
"There is also an urgent need to amend the law to give stringent punishment in such cases," activist Anuradha Mohanty told the BBC.
The state campaign comes after a student in Cuttack city committed suicide when her boyfriend sold CDs of their physical encounters.
URL :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8680237.stm
Kushboo joins DMK:Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/15/stor...1562330100.htm
Looks like it was not the "hindu Gods" or the "italian catholic" with a "political deal signed" that saved Kushboo's "neck"!!!
Deoband fatwa: "It's illegal for women to work, support family"
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/5919153.cms
"Stop meddling in our lives and stick to praying"
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...ow/5919177.cms
Danish Kaneria arrested on spot fixing charges.
That's interesting! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by raagadevan
thamiz: I did not write "If it is true, then it seems like it is not the "hindu Gods" who saved Kushboo, it could very well be a "italian catholic" with a "political deal signed" for saving her "neck"! :lol2:"Quote:
Originally Posted by thamiz
I was only quoting you :)
Thamizh woman named Devi Silvia throws her child and herself into hudson river in NY :
http://gothamist.com/2010/05/15/da_w..._hudson_ri.php
Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
:shock: I feel bad for the baby.... she is going to grow up knowing that Her Mother whos in Prison taking Psychiatric Therapy, threw her into the Freezing Hudson River when she was a baby.... :( Think of the Psychological Effects it could have on her. :(Quote:
Devi Silvia "said she was sad and lonely and angry at her husband, she made clear that she threw her baby into the freezing river in order to get back at her husband."..... ...... ...... .......
A judge agreed that Silvia should be held without bail and ordered that she undergo a psych exam and stay away from her daughter.