Kareettu thalaivaa !Quote:
IR has been straying away from reality for some time
some of his fans too ;)
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Kareettu thalaivaa !Quote:
IR has been straying away from reality for some time
some of his fans too ;)
irir123,
You are doing a great job propogating IR's music amongst the knowledgable folks and so I can understand your feeling. But that doesn't mean I can psychoanalyze you and come to some conclusion about the conflict inside you, isn't it? :D So I think we should desist from the psuedo psychoanalysis stuff.
It is a very different thing to say that "how can a composer in the field for more than 3 decades, NOT have a proper copyright company and not signed with a decent label ?? how can someone revered as an icon, NOT even have his CDs released properly which are available ? " and concluding this is due to some personailty defect. I think we should leave it at expressing our interest in him getting his due rather than going deeper and making claims about his personality. This will only lead more Charu and Shaji types to quote you!!! I am sure that is not a prospect you are looking forward to !!
Nobody is trying to psychoanalyze anybody. We all expect our idol/music god to come to terms with reality and start producing his soul stirring music in this changed world. You can be blunt and contradicting a few times. But if you happen to be doing that all the time, anybody would be annoyed at that person's behaviour. And thats what Charu is trying to point out though for his own vested interests. In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills. for. We all want him to continue to produce good quality music. Explore different kinds of genre and continue to churn out for us. We all want to discuss more of his music rather than his blabbers these days. The more i like his music, i am beginning to get annoyed about his tongue. As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more. Didnt' he accept these as a challenge in his early stages of his career. Didnt he churn melodies after melodies and prove that he is the king of soul stirring music?. Didn't he vanquish his competitors at that time?. At that time, he let his music do the talking. Now it is a different story.
suresh65 - who cares abt the charus and shajis ? - AFAIK, their comments/reviews/blogs are the same as those smelly things that doggies drop during their morning walks, which we carefully avoid
what I have said is strictly my personal assessment on whats happening based on everything i have seen
btw, if you look back carefully, this was not the case during the 1980s or even the 1990s - this carelessness abt wats happening to his releases began during the late 1990s - some hubber friend met with IR and asked abt the non-availability of Guru (malayalam) CDs/cassettes in the marketplace, for which IR had replied that even he does not have a copy for himself !!! he is the composer and he does not have a copy of his best work (until that date) ??? ennathaan nadukkudho yedhuvum puriyala
even this copyright deal with AGI happened only after so many years of being in the dark, and suddenly out-of-the-blue
whether you agree with it or not, IR is definitely cut off from reality - i can understand it perfectly, if IR gave a reason like this: "big audio companies/label give a one-time royalty payment to the musician/composer, but thereafter all the copyrights belong to them - which i think is totally unfair - why shd an artist's genuine effort be taken over by some corporate group, who might ensure a large commercial reach, but in the end, the benefits are going to be reaped by them, while the creator languishes with a tiny percentage of the profit ?" - now such an argument would have been perfectly justified, since i understand thats how the music industry works/functions - be it the Beatles, or the Grateful Dead, or, Deep Purple, or anyone else, they get some initial amount, but thereafter its the company/label they have signed with, that owns their music - there are instances, when a group/band signs another agreement which will allow them to reuse/reproduce their music in public (as concerts) or in another musical venture - but overall, all of this is tightly kept within a framework of copyright laws/rules.
1. If IR is aware of all of this, and feels miffed at the 'injustice' of it all, i can perfectly understand - he has every right to be, in fact, probably wants his efforts to pay dividends to himself or his group - but, going by his talk about 'why he wont release symphonic works coz of scientific improvement' and all such meaningless/irrelevant things gives me a genuine doubt if he is aware of the above, and if aware, either denying them as too complicated, or simply does not want to accept the same, which is precisely what i am referring to as, straying away from reality!
the TiS project was began with the most annoying logistics (which was an absolute disaster, as it ultimately proved) plan - which most likely happened coz of IR's distrust of these big labels!
2. If IR is not aware, then, as a HCIRF, I wish that at least he make an attempt to understand the dynamics of how these things work - that does not seem to be the case
in the longer run, the path ahead does not seem to be very bright - he will do albums for some stray tamil, telugu, and 1-2 Hindi films, he will be in 'the market' for name sake, but he might simply fade away and will be celebrated only in the HUB!
IRIR - see u can drag a horse to the water- but cannot make him drink. idhellaam thaana nadandhaaththaan undu. However if he enters into a deal with BMG lets say - then he will have to comply with their requirements of merchandising, future albums or even reusing his own musical piece (like thumbi vaa). Probably he doesnt want his creative freedom to be curbed. Still all this is speculation and unless I get the opportunity of sitting with him in person (I am lifting his koojaa u see) and get him in a good mood and ask him these things, no answer is gonna come out - so I really feel for your troubles, but have nothing to make you feel better.
jaiganes - am past the time when i was emotionally attached to his music/projects - perhaps 10 years ago ?? whatever am doing now is when i find the time to do it - thalaikky mela velai, in this i simply dont have time to waste on what IR might want to do etc - but all that i have posted above, are based on my understanding of the situation
the few occasions i do get emotional is when i listen to makkals in the US attributing absolutely substandard stuff from india and bollywood calling them 'eclectic' Indian stuff! i either laugh at them or try to educate them abt IR!
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Exactly ! "Sandhosham"-nu oru vaarthai indha manushan vaayila varalainaa ivar enna Spiritual-nu enakku puriyalai..at the same time, he spoke at length in ARR's falicitation function..oru muranpaattu moottai :)Quote:
In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills.
I pointed out what if his own son is authoring that "Thalai Eluthu" of remix songs and popcorn music ?Quote:
As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more.
Devibala - kudumba novle (March 16, 2009) (Cover photo- Nayanthara..Mella varum thendral story)
There is a section....Cine chips.
They have posted the following.
No mention about music!Quote:
சினி சிப்ஸ்..
தற்போது பரபரப்பாக ஓடிக் கொண்டிருக்கும் நான் கடவுள் படத்தை இயக்கிய பாலா, அடுத்து
தன்னுடைய 'பி ஸ்டுடியோஸ்' நிறுவனம் சார்பாக இரண்டு படங்களைத் தயாரிக்கவிருக்கிறார்.
ஒரு படத்தில் சூர்யாவும் இன்னொரு படத்தில் ஜெயம் ரவியும் கதாநாயகர்களாக நடிக்கிறார்கள்.
பாலாவின் உதவியார்களாகப் பணியாற்றிய சிங்கப்புலி, ரவி ஆகிய இருவரும் இரு படங்களையும்
தனித்தனியே இயக்குகிறார்கள்.
Who is the MD?.. any idea?
vinatha.