IR News and Other Titbits Ver.2009

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

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In the padmabhushan interview a few days back IR was asked a simple question about ARR. Even if i dont like him, i would have said, i am happy for him as well. That closes the issue and people would have been happy for the maestro more. But he gave a curt reply back which may not have been needed at that time. Unfortunately he seems to be exposing his 'pechu' skills rather than his 'paatu' skills.

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Exactly ! "Sandhosham"-nu oru vaarthai indha manushan vaayila varalainaa ivar enna Spiritual-nu enakku puriyalai..at the same time, he spoke at length in ARR's falicitation function..oru muranpaattu moottai :)

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As irr & raja_fan points out, he cannot simply keep saying that listening to crap music is our thalai eluthu. If he thinks that is bad, let him come out of his shell and start giving out more.

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I pointed out what if his own son is authoring that "Thalai Eluthu" of remix songs and popcorn music ?

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this shows you lack any understanding whatsoever of his personality...than pugazhailyae kaal thusi ena madhippavar edharkku innoruthar award'kku sandoshamnnu solluvar? it is stupidity to expect that reply from him..moreover, manasula onnu vachi naakula jaalam kaatura pattinathu vithai andha eliya gramathaanukku varaadhu...for example, raaja fan'nnu veliyila sollikiravan actualla manasu full'a prejudice and agenda person'aa iruppaan...

as far as remix - even if his sons do the remix, appavum thalaiyezhuthunnu dhaan solluvaar... :lol: He is a believer in destiny... Once in a meeting he moved his mobile from one corner of the table to another corner of the table and said "indha siru seyal kooda vidhikkapattadhu dhaan"...

poi vera vela irundha paarungappa...the more you talk ill of IR, you only make everyone shower more love on him... :)

:swinghead: :D

I was very happy these days and given sweets to my flat neighbours and office collegues, It is a party time. IR finally recognised and appreciated by PB award. I seen some here in the hub like only his music not his attitude, I want to ask them for several decades you are been listened his songs and got cherish/ecstatic, what you did for him. As a living legend IR is been ignored by certain sectors still he stands high with his talent , we simply lament about the situation but one thing we show our love to him and try to spread his geniusity to the unknown people.

If IR speaks openly in public means it shows how much he was been hurt , embrassed so far. Our neighbouring country PM says "he loves india" means is he truly says and work in that way. Simply smiling and saying some sweet words means he is a right person then all our politicians speaks very nicely and what happning is the country debackles for years.
IR works geniunly and makes music based on our cultural values and enlightned our music to the world.. Show him love so that he will make quality music to us.
" Raja-fan" this is for you.. Your statment is like ... You like the milk but you hate the cow... What is this yar.....

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this shows you lack any understanding whatsoever of his personality...than pugazhailyae kaal thusi ena madhippavar edharkku innoruthar award'kku sandoshamnnu solluvar? it is stupidity to expect that reply from him..moreover, manasula onnu vachi naakula jaalam kaatura pattinathu vithai andha eliya gramathaanukku varaadhu...for example, raaja fan'nnu veliyila sollikiravan actualla manasu full'a prejudice and agenda person'aa iruppaan...

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Vel,

first of all, your post is in bad taste and you resort to personal attacks calling "stupidity", explanation on my name "Raja fan" etc...

Second, you say I lack understanding of IR's personality.
You say IR considers his own fame as Kaal dhoosi.
Do you know how many times IR has contradicted himself on this ? He has moved from extreme to extreme from humility to head-weightedness !

1. Years back, on Sun TV, on Hey Ram promo, he was repeating many times how he was called "a special composer" by the conductor of BSO conductor. It was really pathetic to see him boasting himself like that frequently in that interview. It was in that interview he first called contemporary music by others as Plastic music !

2. What was the need of IR to mock at "Ellaa pughazhum iraivanukke" phrase of ARR in a completely unrelated occassion ? Who asked this man to clarify whether that phrase is logically correct or not ?? Did he not say "Moogaambigai amman ennoda pesuvaanga" in a DD interview ? Is it not a better candidate for mockery than ARR's thanks to the supreme power ?

3. Did he not ridicule the MDs before his era saying "Naan varathukku munnale re-recording-na ellaa scenukkum 'ta-ta-ta-taan' music thaan" in one occassion ?

Lot of such instances can be said !

One simple question..if this "giramaththaan" does not know any vaai jaalam and so honest and frank, can he reply in the same kind of "Why should I feel for him ? Ask him" if some reporter asked him about some award (if at all ) given to political bigwig like the CM ??

Thirdly, you are unnecessarily bringing emotional factors like "giramaththaan" "nagarathaan" etc..
Please answer with facts and logic, rather than ridiculing people personally and emotionally ! :)

101st page. Thread needs to be locked anyway.
Admin, We need a moderator from among the people here so quick action can be taken generally. I think Suresh qualifies eminently. Please do the needful.

I guess we are mixing up a lot of things here. Just read my earlier posts.. IR is a musical genius and there it stops...we should not even try to go beyond it.

1. He does not even care of about his songs and suddenly he wakes up and says people are not given royalty. In an industry where people have so much of respect for IR, if he had put in a word surely help would have come.

2. Symphony release and piracy: Its very simple. Make a simple calculation and see how much profit you want. Have orders and the money collected from one and all, then release the cds.

Many a time i have seen IR speaking that film music is waste...i wud have saluted him if he had said it before Thalapathy or post the movie...

He said no one from india ( If i remember right) can compose a symphony like this...

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He said no one from india ( If i remember right) can compose a symphony like this...

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Yes. I missed this in my post.

Thanks Kamesh for reminding. His words at Hey Ram promo were "matravargal varunkaalathil ippadi hungary senru isai amaikkalaam..aanaal idhu pola adhu irukkaadhu"

For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

Vairamthu's Writings About Ilayaraja in Tamil...All should read to understand them

http://www.saravanakumaran.com/2010/...g-post_24.html

pseudo_raja_fan

1. Sun TV Hey Ram promo - he did not repeat it. watch it again. Moreover, in a promo, virtually every technician boasts. Thats what promos are meant for. Sappa music director ellam enna ennavo pesaran, thalaivan pesa koodaadha?

2. this is a dangerous territory - i am not replying to this. Since you are a staunch hindutva supporter, you can have fun on this topic at your own cost.

3. that was because in most cases the RR was done by associates and troupes and not by the MD themselves. So he may have once said this on re-recording (RR) but never once on songs. Countless times he has glorified MSV to a embarassing limit.

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Originally Posted by raja_fan

For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

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raja_fan,

When you had gone off this forum in a huff, declaring proudly that everyone has become intolerant and all, the discussions here were mostly about music. You can check the archives and you will see lot of fruitful discussions which have happened about music.

And while you are checking those archives, can you also find some posts from any of the regulars who have spoken in high regard about 'everything' that Raja does? Go ahead and show us as to where we all have glorified Raja for whatever he does. In contrast I can show you posts from major Raja lovers like irir123, thumburu, Shankar et al, where they have torn apart different aspects of Raja.

So my request to you is, in order to have some moral basis for your crusade, you need to prove that everyone here wants to hold Raja in high esteem in every sphere of life. If you cannot give those example, I think you should once again go to 'vanavasam'. That will enable us to continue with our discussions on music.

All said and done, this is a free forum. You can keep up with your hatred and agenda as long as you want. I don't think your posts will be worth replying to.

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For people who wonder why this Raja_fan is keen in bashing IR, my humble answer is that some people here want to glorify everything about IR..not stopping with discussing his music which needs no glorification !

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raja_fan,

Vaazhga ungal thondu ....

Valarga ungal pani...

Evvalavu porupaga, thread thread aga vandhu

ipadi kelvi kaetu , kashta padareenga......

Inum Hard Work pannunga raja_fan....