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Uppuma = Devapriya = Pavitra = Solomon = Ancheneya = PaulThomas. Keep on saying the same thing..
You said Maxmuller was paid to do his job!! Can you tell us who among those quoted by you had also been paid?
The term anthaNar during Sangam age did not refer to any BrahmaNas. Now it may or may not depending on context.
In the North, the word BrahmaNa itself did not mean a caste, in the beginning. It later became a closed group and rigid. In Tamil Nadu, when the BrahmaNas came after the Sangam Age in large numbers and settled, they took over the title anthaNar etc. Please read our posts in which we have explained.
There are no magical words in the kuRaLs and in other references quoted by you and all your avatars. AnthaNar is a simple word.
If you had quoted the author correctly, then, the author is simply wrong.
My interpretation is reaffirmed.
uppumaa's reception of logic...
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Devapriya wrote:
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I have not checked the book Manimekhalai now, but it is clear to me you have left out the letter "¬" in this quotation. "¬ÈÈ¢ ÁÃÀ¢ý" does not refer to any Brahmin caste. The lines mean "those who know the 6 activities could perform them." §ÅÚ§ÅÚ º¢ÈôÀ¢ý means each of those six activities has its own significance. There is no caste reference here.
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À¡÷ôÀÉ ÓÐÁ¸ý ÀÊÁ ¯ñÊÂý ..//
"À¡÷ôÀÉ" refers to those who were looking after places of worship, these in olden days could be under the banyan trees. ¬ÄÁÃò¾Ê, from which the word ¬ÄÂõ is derived. ¬ÄÁ÷ ¸¼×û means ¬ÄÁÃò¾Êì ¸¼×û. þó¾ þ¼ò¨¾ò àö¨ÁôÀÎò¾¢ ÅÕ¸¢ÈÅ÷¸ÙìÌî §º¨Å ¦ºöÐ À¢¨ÆìÌõ ±Ç¢ÂÅý "À¡÷ôÀ¡ý" ±ÉôÀð¼¡ý. This job was not performed by any rigidly closed, then not-existent, category marrying among themselves and claiming to be higher than others. The vadama brahmins came to Tamilnadu one thousand or more years later. Do not confuse. Óú¨ÈÔõ§À¡Ð «Åý Óú¨È§Å¡ý ( «¾üÌâ ¦À¨à þô§À¡Ð ¦º¡øÄ Å¢ÕõÀÅ¢ø¨Ä ), §¸¡Â¢¨Äô À¡÷ìÌõ§À¡Ð «Åý À¡÷ôÀÅý. ÀÊÁ «øÄÐ ÀÊÅ ¯ñʦÂýÀРŢþ¡Ú. Ţþõ ±Îò¾Å¦ÉøÄ¡õ þ측Äô À¢Ã¡Á½É¢ý Óý§É¡ý «øÄý. ÅûÙÅì ÌÎõÀò¾¢É÷ «øÄÐ §ÅÚ¡Õõ À¡÷ôÀ¡É¡¸ ¦¾¡Æ¢ø §Áü¦¸¡ûÇÄ¡õ, ºí¸ ¸¡Äò¾¢ø.
Every nation had its own clergy, please note that having a clergy or references to such clergy would not by itself mean that a caste system was in place.
The Brahman or Brahmin of the north acknowledged Brahma as his god and that was why he was called a Brahmin in those days. Just like Christ > Christian, Mohammad > Mohammedan (now not used). In later days, all clergymen were absorbed into this category, causing the confusion in which you are now trapped and unable to extricate yourself.
As to AnthaNar and its meaning, please see my previous posts.
//Paavanaar wrote so much against Hinduism- absolutely UNHISTORICAL and Unethical without any basis, has he commented about Bible or Historical Jesus, against which tons of Proofs are mounting, all proving his highly biased attitude.//
PavaaNar had not written against Hinduism except to expound historical truths. Much of what he wrote was on etymology and philology. Hinduism is not synonymous with Brahminism. Hinduism is not synonymous with Vedic. You seem to be attacking all those who do not subscribe to your line of thinking. PavaaNar proved that Sanskrit is a hybrid language which you hate to hear. So do not try to turn all Hindus against PavaaNar.
PavaaNar said Kumari Kandam was the birthplace of humanity, which goes against biblical teachings. He did not care whether it conflicted with those teachings or not.
PLEASE STOP WRITING ABOUT BRAHMINS. You are instroducing what the hub administration has prohibited.
