cinefan,
thanks for ninaivoottal :)
NagaS
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cinefan,
thanks for ninaivoottal :)
NagaS
Me too ... and I thought KFM is not that open, when it comes to other states' actors / technians, So I am surprised to hear that IR is working on more than 1 kannada movie :-?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinefan
His latest kannada movie was 'usire' I think, not a big hit, atleast to my knowledge !
NagaS
Dear nkv,
As I said , maybe I was too biased to IR. Since you knew the folk in MFM and you follow MFM more closely, you are able to pick out. I apologize if I have stepped on a raw nerve of some one. I really do. I thought that we were getting too critical of IR in this thread and some vague terms were being used , like 'freshness', 'innovative' etc., What I feel is IR has been doing so called 'ordinary' music from a long time. We see it strikingly now since his volume has come down. Earlier of 30 movies he does, there would be 20 good movies (or atleast standard), the so called ordinary movies would be forgotten by fans and critics. It just does not apply to IR alone, Even the great Sivaji acted in countless of sub standard movies (according to many). Why did he do that? No one knows why, he just did. Since we don't know why he did, how can we analyze like some geniuses. We simply look at ARR and YSR and say, "look they dont commit to many movies, why does IR not to do the same?" . Who can answer this question? I say I will take any movie IR composes, even if he gives me 2 to 3 melodies, I will take it coz it will have some traces of the 80s (so called lack of freshness). That is what I am looking for and that is why I loved Virumaandi as an album. 'Kombule poovai suthi' simply took me back to 80s. Thats enough for me. I will take it anytime for digitally arranged, commercially purchased loops pasted in a computer.
" What I feel is IR has been doing so called 'ordinary' music from a long time. We see it strikingly now since his volume has come down. Earlier of 30 movies he does, there would be 20 good movies (or atleast standard), the so called ordinary movies would be forgotten by fans and critics. "
jaiganes, this is what I was talking about earlier. Thanks for catching the drift. Atleast you see and agree that he had composed rather ordinary tunes even in the past. There are a couple of people here like Kiru, who take the stance that nothing composed by IR is bad and each and every song is great. This is the kind of stance that befuddles me everytime.
Nitya has agreed with me on some of the observations about Yugadharmam and other hapless albums of IR. There are many such albums even in the 80s. I dont have anything against IR's recent TFM albums except that that they are nowhere near his own recent best from MFM. I have also given examples of albums that I have liked so its not just criticism but just my way of expressing disappointment over his recent uninspired works.
Digression:
nkv & JaiGanesh,
I kind of agree partly to both of your postings...nkv surely has a better understanding of MFM...However, I can't accept his observations on Johnson - he is an imitation fellow / often a copy-cat, much like Deva...OTOH listen to the melodies of Bombay Ravi, some of the best music ever heard in IFM...
I lived in Kerala from 86-2002 and would definitely rate the music of 86-90 much superior to majority of the later (in terms of melody, soul & orchestration)...They had real uniqueness / maN vAsanai...even when adopted from successes elsewhere, they were localised pretty good, while the later ones are sounding more of imitations of the trends in other states...even movies are no different, with some exceptions, becoming more of rehashes / predictable / stereotypes...Just compare Mohanlal's Chitram or veLLanakaLude nAdu with Balettan / recent ones as an example:-)
Even the highly successful music of `thenmAvin kombathu' by Johnson had songs each of which reminds you of some old song from TFM...I can't compare him with Ravindran, for e.g. who could produce music like that of HH Abdullah...
End Digression
IR has always done well in MFM ( I didn't have a chance to hear the later ones like KKS -though I got this cassette to ship to friends in U.S., never listened to it-, and ManasinakkarE or others, the last one I heard was Friends which had the beautiful sivamallippoovE, lovely kadal kAtRil ninnum and another sweet KSC solo plus an average thankakkinA), often with commercial success of movies too. Unfortunately, his best for MFM weren't big commercial hits (Guru, kAlApAni)...Hope he gets to create some semi-classical stuff for the forthcoming MFM projects...I don't think he did much semi-classical stuff in MFM - mostly folk, light or fusion....
cry_sandiego/MSK, you dont have to get so upset at that fact that I didnt like a few recent IR albums :-) Cheer up. I was just expressing my opinions. If you enjoy Manasinakkare or Karagatakaari so be it. How does it matter to you or anyone else if I didnt like it? And BTW, regarding Pithamagan/Virumandi, I wasnt just venting my frustrations as you have mentioned. Those are my true observations of the albums. 1 or 2 good songs in an album doesnt make the whole album great. If you think I am all criticism, then you have missed the examples that I have given of IR from MFM.
"though I got this cassette to ship to friends in U.S., never listened to it"
eden, I did :-) Surprising that you shipped it but didnt listen to it yourself. Anyways, a late thanks if I had forgotten to mention it earlier. Kochu Kochu santhoshangal had a couple of inspired numbers from IR , several notches above the average stuff that we heard in TFM for the last 15 years.
For someone new to IR's MFM stuff my honest recommendations from his fairly recent works would be:
Guru, Yaathramozhi, Friends, Kochu Kochu Santhoshangal, Kaliyoonjal
along with assorted songs like Kadhirum Gothi/Virahamaay(Man of the match), one Chithra song(Adharvam?) etc. for starters..
You're welcome, vijay!
It was a time period when I didn't seem to have room for any recreation...I've very recently located an Indian store run by a Keralite in Sterling Heights and found a lot of Malayalam stuff...hopefully can spend some time now over MFM:-)
Ilayaraja plays a different role in TF as a screenwriter. His movie has a budget of Rs. 20 Million. The title of the movie is "Sripart Rajamani". Since it is a heroine oriented subject they are in search for the right fit.
The title itself invites a big disaster. Who would risk this project?
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