Woody Allen

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Originally Posted by rangan_08

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

I remember this film. Not bad at all compared to some of his recent films.

The son saying something about critics being the lowest form of beings and so on. Woody says "but they were right this time". Son says something like "when I get mauled by critics, I eat another rat". :lol:

And also, "Thank God the french exist" after agent reveals to him about next film in Paris. :D

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Yes, you're right. Particularly I liked those scenes where he played a blind man. Very natural.

And, from your earlier posts, I would say that you are an expert in film analysis. You have abundant & profound knowledge, sharp analytical skills and great articulating talent. You deserve a doctorate to be bestowed upon you :D

From now, I hereby declare you to be called as Dr. Kid-glove and welcome you to the prestigious club of talents which includes, Dr. Prabhuram, Dr. Equanimus, Dr. Kannan, Dr. Bala (Karthik), Dr. Ajithfederer………...........

Dr. Kid-glove – Dr. Strangelove, ah !! what a rhyming similarity !!! Hope you don’t have a Nazi background and that your right arm is as normal & active as your left :D

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IMO, Equa doesnt publish enough papers to keep his qualification :-)

P_R
Woody's problems (not that I concur or accept !) might be the fact it seems littered with his trademark handles and character arcs (as much as layered it might be), that would seem very mechanical and explicit. Almost all work of fiction seems to suffer from this, only the level differs. As he says, I was saying that I want to obey the story and if you obey the needs of the creation of the piece of fiction, the meaning reveals itself. In CAM, the meaning and the subtext doesn't reveal organically, but seems deliberately wrought-up by Woody.

The core of the film, the central Dostoevskian themes had to be dealt very succinctly and by action, not overbearing thoughts/lines poured over (As he aptly quotes “The message of the film can’t be in the dialogue.”).

Landau's situation, seeking for moral structure, and the gradual realization. The allegorical representation of religion inhibited morality in the rabbi character, conversely turning blind - might seem so mechanical and over elaboration, yet the dilemma is in deed rendered like a Dostoevsky, much more explicitly than in Rhys-Myers' situation. The latter's case is merely used to emphasis on crime and punishment (or the distinct lack of one) in "Match point" (as the title seems to suggest, it gets to the f-ing point). We don't see the violence, but the absolute "necessity" of the crime, happened to have the right characters in the right place at the right time, as he aptly puts (and not uptight either, with its upper-class elitism as in CAM). And is played out like a "procedural" with the artifices, creating a suspense murder. Only suggestive of its core philosophy, without flapping with different sticks (Apart from the Rabbi, the documentary of the fictional philosophical figure, functions as the allegory to Cliff's storyline, and its/his ensuing death), and the spelled-out wisdom, blah blah (the final VO in CAM :lol2:)

(Ippo than idhai paakuren)
Gundoosi vikaravanai thozhil adhibargaloda compare panringa. And Dr. KG is like Ambani and Warren buffet put together in philims. KG Has your foreign count crossed 1000?.

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Originally Posted by rangan_08

From now, I hereby declare you to be called as Dr. Kid-glove and welcome you to the prestigious club of talents which includes, Dr. Prabhuram, Dr. Equanimus, Dr. Kannan, Dr. Bala (Karthik), Dr. Ajithfederer………...........

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k-g I get why he would rue CAM as more telling while MP is more showing. In fact the final conversation between Judah and Cliff, where they discuss may even be seen as a let-down (I didn't feel that way) and explaining what was already told.

Looking purely at the Judah-Dolores vs. Myers-Scarlett stories, there was just so much more in the former. That is what impressed me very much. It is a very subtle shade of depiction The kind of 'superiority' - deserved or not - and the problems caused by it is something people who like can Woody relate to a lot. Which is perhaps why Jadah managed to evoke a bit of empathy.

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Originally Posted by [url=http://www.thehindu.com/lr/2006/03/05/stories/2006030500270600.htm

Pradeep Sebastien[/url]]Many of us intellectual, sensitive, arty types are middlebrow in our tastes and middlebrow in our sensibility. Like Allen, we too regard high culture with awe. If we can't drink deeply from it, we want to at least partake of it, want it to rub off on us.

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Originally Posted by P_R

k-g I get why he would rue CAM as more telling while MP is more showing. In fact the final conversation between Judah and Cliff, where they discuss may even be seen as a let-down (I didn't feel that way) and explaining what was already told.

Looking purely at the Judah-Dolores vs. Myers-Scarlett stories, there was just so much more in the former. That is what impressed me very much. It is a very subtle shade of depiction The kind of 'superiority' - deserved or not - and the problems caused by it is something people who like can Woody relate to a lot. Which is perhaps why Jadah managed to evoke a bit of empathy.

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Originally Posted by [url=http://www.thehindu.com/lr/2006/03/05/stories/2006030500270600.htm

Pradeep Sebastien[/url]]Many of us intellectual, sensitive, arty types are middlebrow in our tastes and middlebrow in our sensibility. Like Allen, we too regard high culture with awe. If we can't drink deeply from it, we want to at least partake of it, want it to rub off on us.

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I agree. Besides of course, Anjelica Huston's appearance manages to be much less a movie star on screen and really really be the part. And Johansson is such an object of desire, and a star that it adds a bit more detachment to Woody's insular view, in Match point. I suppose the point is, regardless of our empathy to the victim, the crime is no less censurable..

It's a sarcastic poke at all of us, I think, from Dr.Rangan. :lol:

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

KG Has your foreign count crossed 1000?

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8881/2 :lol2: :P

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

It's a sarcastic poke at all of us, I think, from Dr.Rangan. :lol:

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Now, things are straight, I believe. :D


BTW, it was a genuine & real comment.

........adding Plum to the list :D

(This is Non- Indian and Non-English(Hollywood and British Cinema) right??).
Seekiram oru 1000 adinga. Enlighten us all with good movies from around the world :bow:.

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

It's a sarcastic poke at all of us, I think, from Dr.Rangan. :lol:

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Originally Posted by ajithfederer

KG Has your foreign count crossed 1000?

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8881/2 :lol2: :P

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I was of course joking. :)

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Originally Posted by rangan_08

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

It's a sarcastic poke at all of us, I think, from Dr.Rangan. :lol:

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Now, things are straight, I believe. :D


BTW, it was a genuine & real comment.

........adding Plum to the list :D

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rangarae, enna dhAn fellow-pGW fan-nAlum ivLO paasam aagadhu. Be clear, you are praising Dr Kid Glove, Dr Frabhu Raum Dr Bala Karthik etc or poking them? If praising them, ennai listlErundhu delete paNnidunga :-)
( and I am saying this with all the arrogance I can muster!)