Greattttttt album from harris jayaraj...
:D
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Greattttttt album from harris jayaraj...
:D
kudos to Harris
Thoroughly Enjoyable ! :thumbsup:
i dont remember saying that......i think i said, Dharan (sivi/paarijaatham MD) is the best thing to have happened to TFM since HJ............Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
ofcourse, i rate HJ very high on his chartbuster abilities :)
A thoroughly enjoyable album from Harris. :redjump:
http://visionofvinith.blogspot.com/2...ew-harris.html
Nenjukkul is the best :bow:
Yethi Yethi ROCKS
Its like listening to Cheb Khaled song again (Didi, Aicha).
Rest of the songs may suite the melody lovers.
Nice album ... :)
More melodious than previous GM+HJ combo albums but somehow I feel it is not rocking as their prevoius soundtracks.
good album
very satisfying album.... i think after Sakarakatti, this is the only albums that has all numbers that is good.... :thumbsup:
Bought the cd...Overall a good album from harris..Was a bit disappointed with the 3 remaining songs as i thought Gautham & co would have saved the best for last :) I think they decided to promote the best ones first and then go with the average ones :D
Nenjukul - 5/5
Adiye koluthey - 4.5/5
Mundinam - 5/5
Anal mele - 3/5 - requires repeated listening
yethi - 3/5 requires repeated listening
Shanthi - 3.5/5
ava ena - 3/5 - requires repeated listening
Exactly my feelings...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahen
In the audio release function, there were Naresh Iyer, Devan and another guy playing guitar(whom I couldn't recognise) on stage and were singing appropriate songs live during intro of each personalities like "Newyork nagaram" when Surya was called and "Kangal irandaal" when dir. sasikumar was called upon. When heroine Ramya was called on stage, prompted by Gautham, they sang "Smack that" , the original version of "Minnalgal koothaadum" :lol:
"nenjukul"this must be the song of the year..really amazing... "mundinam" rhtthm is very similar to 'faith' from george michael neverthles the song is good....
Just had a chance to listen to em all...
Harris Take a bow....
Nuthing else to say ....except for some pointers
* I think its the best this year.. every song rocks..
* Every genre explored except for carnatic..
* Yethi Yethi rocks.. the last time i was this excited for a song was for Kuruvi's "Pallanadhu" .. it just makes u dance.. I am happy Yethi Yethi was saved for the bolt..
* Yet I am unable to enjoy all this coz completely of some really disheartening stuff in TFM from Yuvan of all people..the way "Nalam thana" was massacred
I believe its everyones repsonbility to preserve something pristine to our progeny and I just got hammered on that thought. I believe this is also of a form of "Tamil Kozhai"
I will post in that forum once I retain my composure..
Bro, did they say anything about the movie release in the function??? :roll: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by vigneshram
Interesting......Old one....got it from orkut....
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fr/2002/10...2501150300.htm
CONVERSING WITH Harris Jeyaraj is a refreshing experience. His cheerful countenance, intermittent chuckles and light-hearted comments punctuated with guffaws make it so. And if you expect to encounter a serious music director relating his struggle to make it big, you would be pleasantly surprised.
Success just happened to Harris and the young man has accepted it with equanimity. "Till I did "Minnalae" I did not even think I could compose," he says. His association with Goutham, director of "Minnalae", that began when he was doing jingles, led him to the offer.
On a quiet afternoon recently, a relaxed Harris fielded questions with caution and candidness at his Trinity Music Wave studio, in K. K. Nagar, Chennai. From a music dominated childhood to his latest projects, he touched upon all...
Working for the much-awaited "Laysa Laysa"...
"Laysa Laysa," is already an audio success and Harris is now looking forward to the re-recording job for the film. The rapport he has with his producer Vikram Singh is obvious. "Composing music for the film was a fantastic experience. The film's director Priyadarshan sat with him for one composition and Vikram Singh for four of the numbers. Vikram's enthusiasm helped a lot. Even if I felt a particular tune could be improved upon, if Vikram liked it he would insist that it was excellent and would go gaga over it," laughs Harris.
The "12B" experience ...
Surely the confused twin plot running on parallel tracks was too much for the lay audience. Harris must have noticed it when working on the film. "Yes ... but when the director explained to me that the new concept would be accepted, I thought it would work. But credit has to be given to producer Vikram Singh. It was the first film from Film Works and he didn't interfere with the director's work at all. The B and C centres did not worry him... and he gave the technicians ample freedom."
Childhood and music...
M. S. Viswanathan's assistant Joseph Krishna first spotted Harris' talent and made him play the guitar for a song in a Malayalam film. It was the first recording for the 12-year old. For the next 12 years, he played for several composers — Rajkoti in Telugu, Sadhu Kokila in Kannada, Karthik Raja, Yuvan Shankar Raja, Sirpi, Mani Sharma and A.R. Rahman — till "Minnalae" came along. The only exception was Ilaiyaraja. "Actually I continued to play the keyboard for others for a few months after the release of my first film. Among the composers, I cannot forget Adityan... he has used me for many of his numbers, films and albums."
Harris could pursue his education only up to the Plus Two level, because even by then he had many recordings a month. "I always had a problem with attendance... " chuckles Harris. Having been trained in Western Classical, Harris passed Grade VIII exam conducted by the Trinity College, London. "I learnt Carnatic music for six months at the age of six. The teacher didn't want me after that... he was furious that I was not serious about music," says the young man. From the guitar to the keyboard, the switchover was smooth. Harris grew up in an atmosphere of music — his father, Jayakumar, was a guitarist himself and had worked under many composers. But slowly when he became more religiously inclined young Harris had to take over the family responsibility. And the family included two younger sisters and mum. His wife Suma, a singer herself, came later and now there is son Nicholas.
Aspirations ...
"I never had any... Of course, I wished to learn a lot about music and play on the keyboard for the best music directors, but that was it. If I had had any great ambition I should have at least tried producing music albums. There is not a single number that I composed till "Minnalae." It is by the grace of God that I have come this far... "
Working for A. R. Rahman...
"I have worked for many composers including Rahman. Most of them would give us the notation... you had to play it ... get your payment and come away. There was nothing more. But Rahman would not expect us to stick to the notes given... he would allow us to improvise and if he liked it he would ask us to play it our way. So I think in a way it was probably working for Rahman that made me realise that there was a composer in me."
Way of working ...
There's no hard and fast rule, insists Harris. "Sometimes you get the tune in a few minutes. At times it could take three or four days." And when at the job, the time of day hardly matters to him.
New voices ...
"I try to use different voices ... there is abundant talent around ... even now I have about 400 cassettes from aspiring singers. Quite a few are promising... so why not give them a chance," he asks. An encouraging view point for many talents out there waiting to make it big. The trend, first begun by Rahman, is now adopted by many composers old and new. However Harris uses voices differently too. That's why you have singers steeped in Carnatic classical, like Bombay Jayashri and Nithyashri Mahadevan, crooning fast and even erotic numbers ("Vaseegara" that Jayashri sang and "Oru Pournami" from Nithyashri, to name a couple) " I feel that such voices bring a little divinity to lustful numbers. The unconventional touch that the voice renders enhances the appeal of the song."
But if you thought older voices have little chance with him, Harris hastens to explain that it can never be so. "I like to experiment with voices but that doesn't mean that I'll use only new voices. For "Vasu", the only Telugu film I've done SPB sang two numbers and I cannot forget the veteran's contribution. And Chitra has sung for me even in "Laysa Laysa". Again the title song of "Laysa ... " is a lilting melody by Anuradha Sriram. She is an excellent singer whose voice I felt could be used differently. And it has worked."
Songs that murder the Tamil language in the name of being
modern ...
The diction and pronunciation in many cases border on the blasphemous ... the "Itukattu ... " song in "12B" is one example. How can one say "Paaacha Paaachayay ... " and call it Tamil? Harris laughs aloud. "I agree that it was a bit too much. But when two directors sitting with me here at that time said it was the highlight of the number, I got carried away."
Today's numbers are too short-lived ...
The old numbers had more of melody and are heard and enjoyed even after three or four decades, but today... " Let's not decide in a hurry. Some new songs may still be popular 20 years from now. There are songs and songs ... some die early while others last long. It's bound to happen always."
When the music does well but the film bombs ...
Harris says with a grimace, "It is sad ... but just as the music of a film could affect its box office status, the vice-versa is also equally true. "12B" is one such case. The audio sales shot up to record levels before the film's release but after the film came there was a marked slump." But when a song is a hit, the film's performance should hardly matter.
His Hindi experience ...
"Rehna Tera Dil Main", the Hindi remake of "Minnalae" was not a happy experience for Harris Jeyaraj. (Incidentally, it was the film that launched Madhavan in Hindi — Diya Mirza was the leading lady.) The film bombed at the box office, but music-wise it did very well. Subhash Ghai called his music a masterpiece... "Dil ko ... " sung by Roopkumar Rathod and "Zara ... Zara" (the Hindi "Vaseegara ... ") again by Bombay Jayashri topped the charts then and Harris was flooded with offers. But he became wary because unfortunately the makers included five other songs in the cassette, for which Harris had not scored the music. ``Subhash Ghai said that he couldn't believe why suddenly five out of the 10 songs sounded so unlike my work. Anyway I am proud and happy to be a part of Tamil film industry. Our technicians here are great," he sums up.
Coming back to "Laysa Laysa"...
"Laysa Laysa" created ripples a few months ago when the title song, "Laysa Laysa... " alone was brought out as a cassette for Rs.9. "The singles idea was Vikram Singh's. It is a western concept where one song of an album in the making is released as a sampler to kindle interest and arouse expectations ... This was the first time it was done in our country," he says and adds, "Vikram Singh and I came together with his "12B" and the bond continues... he is more a friend to me. Hope "Laysa Laysa" does very well."
is Ava Enna supposed to be a remix/repackaging of an old song?? Sounds vaguely familiar :? Thanni thotti from Sindhu Bhairavi??
Found the songs of VA in thiraipaadal.com site.
Rock guitar start was interesting, but the beats and when the male singer starts "adiye...", I lost interest. The reason is that it sounded very similar to "Endrendrum". Most sounds used in this song gives a feeling of "heard before". Liked the 2nd interlude though.
I guess its a conscious decision not to use Bombay Jayashree. Sudha Raghunathan comes in here (the tune makes her sound almost like BJ anyway), but when "Anal mele" starts, it will certainly remind of "Enadhuyire". Dont know why HJ does not put more effort in creating more original tunes.
Fortunately, in "Ava Enna", HJ somewhat experiments. Does not matter if he succeeded or not, but it makes it sound different. Karthik makes it even better. I liked Prasanna (??) humming in the second interlude (guitar/piano like interlude is good too). What a voice!
Mundhinam is an ok song. The guitar pattern is somewhat familiar.
Nenjukkul sounds a slow melody. Needs more listening, especially for the guitar part.
"Mugaaam dhaan". that is how clinton pronounces in the song "Oh shanthi" song. Kodumai. Atleast a few words has been expanded to fit the tune. This short song sounds like a typical english song.
The whistling like sound in the beginning of "Yethi" sounded a little familar. But, apart from that, the tune and the beats made me pay attention to the song. Liked it. Middle east tint seen.
A typical HJ-GM combo/sound. Despite HJ giving same type of tunes for similar situations, I am eager everytime a new HJ album releases, just to see if he has given something refreshing. Examples are 'Aiyangar veettu", "Kumari" from Anniyan. These were refershing with HJ touches.
thanks,
Krishnan
Listened 3 times :)
Adiyae Kolluthey - boring
Munthinam - very good
Nenjukkul - rocks
Ava Enna - average
Yethi Yethi - Pallavi, ludes rocks and saranam sucks, like it :)
Anal mela - just OK for me
Oh Santhi - a portion of Nenjukkul song extended here
Seems like HJ than sattiyula irunthu vazhichu koduthirukkirar and aduthavan sattiyula irunthum (for Adiye kolluthey & Munthinam songs)
whatever matters this albums sounds very good
Guys, if you come across the english translation for all the songs of VA, pls post it here..Thanks :)
yap, this album is a confirm a 'blockbuster album' already. Just watch what happens when film releases....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Either you have a very biased ear or getting very used to mediocre sounds. Album with lot of cliché, copying and mediocrity. Romba sumaar album.Quote:
Originally Posted by inetk
Well said Normal Man....Quote:
Originally Posted by NormalMan
(Hey, am I in the world of Oxymorons)
HJ copies
HJ is mediocre
HJ is cliche'd
People have biased ears
People like mediocre sounds
People cannot appreciate the genius work in 'Kattradhu Tamizh' or 'Machakkaaran'
People are senseless.
But,
We are very sensible
We are just
We do not judge others so easily
And, now.. lets proclaim that 'Dhanam' is the album of the year and 'Silambaattam' is gonna be the album of the millenium.
Why worry about the world thats filled with mediocrity.. tuck yourself into couch and sleep peacefully.. afterall IR and YSR are the only redeemers for those who are starving for good music and melody. Leave the poor mortals here - spare them, for they settle for the lesser good.
the rhythm where they sing kidayathu in Yethi Yethi reminds me of Taxi Taxi
http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=qRpwoaJhY2A
this song is of AC/DC love bomb...........
and adiye kolluthey song of vaaranam aariyam...........exact lift..........guitars and beats.................
Listen ......u will be disappointed............i am disappp.......
Kamraj,
Well IR for sure (along with MSV, SDB, Hendrix) did elevate to a level, where scores I see coming out make me fume. So do I really wish I can tuck myself into a shell? Absolutely not !! I will keep hearing to scores and albums that come out, with a sheer hope that there will be a miracle sound maker. TFM is seriously lagging behind in terms of innovation (again IMHO). There have been only a handful of numbers that have touched my heart (anbe vaa from SOK, kaatril varum gethame, paravaye engu irukirai).
And for the record Katradhu Tamizh is "the" best album in the last 2 years or so - again IMHO.
NormalMan,
Something that annoys me quite often in this forum is that most of us here are to judge the musicians rather than their products. IMHO, the music that I like would be no better than my taste. Criticisms are good, but purely judgemental statements on musicians with lot of prejudice doesnt serve any purpose. I really wonder what could possibly satisfy people who can simply trash an album like 'Varanam Aayiram'. Well, I simply take it as my innocence in Music - No close to most of the musical geniuses here.
Your statement below was purely judgemental and gets very cliche'd like any other trespassing fan of ARR, IR or YSR.
Please take time to read each word of yours above to see if you merit your judgement on 'Kattradhu Tamizh' and the likes. Can you educate poor fans like me on how do you think this album was copied. In respect of your opinion, I cannot really challenge your judgement like 'mediocre sounds', 'cliche'' and 'mediocrity'.Quote:
Originally Posted by NormalMan
PS :
Nothing stopped me from criticizing IR on his work in 'Oru Naal Oru Kanavu', 'Madhu' etc.. though I adore him by all means - IR is an Isaignani (nothing more, nothing less). He is the epitome of everything in music.
As well, nothing stopped me from praising Yuvan for his work in 'Deepavali', 'Arindhum Ariyamalum' etc.. though he let me down greatly (like no other - not even Srikanth Deva) by his music in 'Kaadhal Kondaen'.
Kamaraj,
My bad if I gave you the sense that I was judgmental on the musicians themselves and not in their output. I have liked and will always appreciate good music. I liked HJ's Laysa Laysa, Vetaiyadu Vilayadu. But VA is not something I will put on my iPod. I totally refrain from calling names and always been so in the last 10 yrs of my TFM visits.
So how was the album copied; I don't have to retype all the bits & bytes. The forum has enough references to AD/DC or Faith. So you call it and sugar coat it as inspiration. I call it copy - blatant copy.
Kadhal Kondaen was again a bag of copied crap. I shunned it when I found enough references to the copies. But again; again Katradhu Tamizh was a wonder. Probably only 2 other wonders worked on me in the last 10 yrs or so - Guru (IR's mallu work) and Dil Chata Hai. They had unique and different sounds from the note go.
just 4 fun! :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZSsYDCqOfk
Cheap sense of humour. You guys are still living with this 5 month old cheap crap in YouTube that a brilliant creature did.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
Sakkarakatti has released... u can go and spend your time there relishing all the wonderful music.
This video is a simple testimony of the desperate efforts of folks like you to keep your soul warm and assured of the thought that ARR is the unchallenged badshah of music. The fact is fact and it will stand the test of times - Neither you nor I can alter that.
Anand,
Idhellam thevaiya :banghead:
sorry!kamaraj ,LM sir ! dont be serious,just 4 funla bro!
Appreciate your response Anand. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
No probs Anand. Why unnecessarily hurt others? (though it is not your intention). That's why I said so. Cheers :DQuote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
damn just listened this... and hj has lifted it for the movie samy... vepamaram puliyamaram
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g_i0D1QBqs
I am not going to talk anything here.Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaregama
2002 - Samy audio released
2005 - Decibel band first played the Nagin song
[Please refer to their blog site : http://decibelindia.blogspot.com ]
Now, tell me what is your definition of lift ?
but you should realise that its a metal version of the old song nagin.
and i dont see decibels so cheap to copy it from a kollywood song!
Ok sir, I have realised. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaregama
Thats just a coincidence i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaregama