You are a self contradicting person. See your first post in page40Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
ALL MDs HAVE COPIED / INSPIRED INCLUDING IR
Edharku enna artham kannu :lol:
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You are a self contradicting person. See your first post in page40Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
ALL MDs HAVE COPIED / INSPIRED INCLUDING IR
Edharku enna artham kannu :lol:
Nakeeran,
"Devi koondalo brindavanam" resembles a english song so much that, you can find only a thin line between copy/inspiration. My definition would be: totake some thing and give a new dimension, though both sound same, u can see IR touch to that (i guess, I am approaching a point, if not, I dont know how to explain).
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Originally Posted by MusicIsLife
I think the composer is Shankar ganesh . Right ? then its a photo copy machine :D
but i cant digest if someone says IR has copied many ?
If IR had even thought about copying, he wouldnt have achieved this unimaginable levels & couldnt have sustained for a long period in tfm.
IR - ORIGINALITY
Long before, he just touched during an interlude in manjal nilavukku indru ore sugam ( remember the flute interlude during the 2nd charanam ) & the preludes to Devan thiruchabai malargale ( remember the Sholay title BGM )
I dont remember IR having taken anything from others.
HE HAD TONS AND TONS OF IMAGINATIVE SKILLS
any source for the aranmanai kili's song????
Nakeeran
My bad and my mistake!! on the song
HE HAD TONS AND TONS OF IMAGINATIVE SKILLS
Still IR has, I guess he does not need imagination, as he talks only music!! (Music is his first language then comes everything).
Nonsense. :evil: Don't come up with comical comments like these :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
way to go ARR :lol: ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
ARR fans accuse others for copying but avargaludaiya muthukila irukira azhuku theriyirathu illa pOla :roll:
my smart fren,the 1 so called copy from Dr Alban is actually LOOPS...the same beat/loop....i wont be shock if u dunno that....its common for peep who only find faults without knowing the facts... :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice
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Thenmerku paruvakkaatru [Film: Karuthamma]
The beats are similar to a track by Dr Alban, 'Om we rembwe ike'. Note that Dr Alban himself uses a lot of commercially available loops and CDs to create songs!
Listen to Thenmerku paruvakaatru | Om we rembwe ike
The beats are sure inspired. As usual the tune remains very original. The 'yei nee romba azhaga irukke' song, 'Poi sollalaam' uses similar beats!
http://itwofs.com/tamil-arr.html
athu sari music patri therincha een avar copy pannuvaar :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
oru oomai kittaiyum vaiyi irukum, oru pesavanakkum vaiyi irukum...ippe ennangere?? :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice
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Originally Posted by Justice
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Thenmerku paruvakkaatru [Film: Karuthamma]
The beats are similar to a track by Dr Alban, 'Om we rembwe ike'. Note that Dr Alban himself uses a lot of commercially available loops and CDs to create songs!
Listen to Thenmerku paruvakaatru | Om we rembwe ike
The beats are sure inspired. As usual the tune remains very original. The 'yei nee romba azhaga irukke' song, 'Poi sollalaam' uses similar beats!
http://itwofs.com/tamil-arr.html
I'm reminded of the following..
x: music-i paRRi unakkena theriyum
y: aththinthOm (from CM) :lol:
i was reminded of this :Quote:
Originally Posted by Justice
:lol: :lol:Quote:
Athinthom [Film: Chandramukhi (2005)] <TC>
Composer: Vidyasagar
Seems to have been lifted directly from a traditional Malayalam track of the same name!
Listen to Athinthom (Chandramukhi) | Athinthom (Original)
Supposed to be an old folk song from Kerala made popular by many local bands, including one called 'Karinthalakkootam'!
http://itwofs.com/tamil-others.html
Do you know the meaning of "nonsense"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramakrishna
AFAIK ysr copied or heavily inspired for many songs.
1) Kadhal Kadhal 2) Manasu Rendum
And from his father
1) Thendi Thendi 2) Some theme music from Johny
I did not include remixed songs by yuvan because the credit was given in the cassette. Also i did not take less/partly inspired song because "the benefit of doubt" goes to YSR (or any MD).
I don't how many songs he composed in his journy from the beginning. But we can consider about 200 to 250 songs in which he has copied shamefully for 5 (sure) to 10 (may be) songs. This means he has 4% bad part. That's why i am telling like he has higher percentage than Harris Jeyaraj or any competitor currently he has. Don't include here IR or ARR or MSV.
Sanjeevi,Theendi Theendi - Bala is a straight copy of IR's Mahadeva - Rim Jim Rim Jim.... [Hindi]
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Theendi Theedni [Film: Bala (2002)]
Blatantly copied from his father, Ilayaraja's composition, 'Rimjhim
rimjhim' for the 1989 Hindi film, 'Mahadev'.
Listen to Theendi Theendi | Rimjhim rimjhim
Does being Ilayaraja's son give Yuvan the right to pass of his father's creation as his own? I don't think so!!
http://itwofs.com/tamil-yuvan.html
i think u did mean this Theendi Theendi rite :D
Well said sanjeevi. You reflected my thoughts. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
Every MD has the inspirations.
for IR,
in one of his top most album,(Priya)
ha has two inspirations.(darling darling, akkarai seemai)
kanavu kanum is the ditto copy of hindi tune.( so IR also copied the tune from other composer. but decently u can say as exchange.)
for ARR,
his most of his beats are commerical loops.
IMHO,he became famous in 90's with this beats only.because i also attracted by his beats only for ex muggala,arabi kadaloram, telephone manipol.
the starting tune of Enna vilai azhage is definitely replica of thanga padhagathin mele.
the starting tune of mugalla muggapulla is another replica of asaiye alaipola. this is mentioned in AV or kumudham film review of kadhalan.
i think there are some other also.
Why karthik did'nt mentioned these in his wesite itwofs?
for Yuvan,
in one of his top most album,(kadhal kondaien)
he has 2 ditto copies. that is shameful.
from his father also he uses 2 or 3 tunes.
appankkarathala avar tunellam use panna mudiyathu.
there are some other inspirations also. it is clearly metioned in itwofs.com.
for HJ,
his most of his tunes and music has the shades/replica of old ARR.
apart from IR,ARR
in current scene, Yuvan is better than others for giving good and quality music.that is fact.
if u do the reasearch on any MD, then definitely he will have inspirations/copy. (for ex do it for VS.)
What a research vasanth2006!!!!I agree
To add a point on IR, the "inspiration" or "copy works" are his early days songs due to 'pressure' from producers and directors.
forget it
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Maddy, I didn't understand a bit of your post...apart from getting the answer for HOW TO LOSE VIRGINITY WITH MUSIC? :lol:
Is that why people are saying like:
"Talking about Music is talking about sex.. Would you be able to describe it exactly ? " :wink: </dig>
:lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by selvakumar
Indha madhiri isai sambandhapatta threadukellam oru allavukavadhu isai patri therindhavargal allavo vara vendum.
Isai patri ondrum puriyamal pithatrubavargal :lol: pazaya isai patri ondrume theriyadhavargal eppadi varalam.
MDs of yesteryears patri ondrume theriyadhavargal.
ellam vandhutangappa vandhutangappa :wink:
Idhenna nataamai seyya panjayatha :lol:
Sami :evil: :wink:
selva i xpected this :lol: .....i was very unclear there....i'll try to knock some sense into my words.... :D
well in our society, losing virginity before marriage is condemnable act, okvaaa??? similarly copying/getting inspired/remixing songs is a condemnable act in musical terms, okvaaa??? but at which point shuld we start condemning these acts?? be it losing virginity or copying/inspiration/remix.......
for me,
inspirationcan be equated to "mere thinking" about sex.....i dunt find anything much wrong here.....but for ppl. of older gen they call it wrong......similarly, some real musical conservatives call inspiration itself wrong, isn't it???
copying can be equated to "acts of sex minus climax" which is somewhat hard to digest for me but still can let it go, but for many ppl. copying(or acts of sex) is highly condemnable.......they call it foul.....
remix can be equated to "losing virginity" in all sense, which i myself condemn........if u dunt have sarakku then only u'll resort to remix isn't it??? this is highly condemnable for me.......
so we just need to view
inspiration as mere bad thinking
copying as minor act of wrong doing
remix as real wronng act......
i hope it is clear this time..... :lol:
copying is a minor crime..remix is a majo crime?..maddy..atleast remix nu sollitu seyraanga...after copying they tell its their own song :banghead:
Vasanth,about ARR only 20% was true...though there is comercial loop,u need a huge talent to know HOW TO ARRANGE it to make it sound appropriate and rhythmic ,and there is where ARR got his fame.... its not easy to arrange the loops to make it sound as beuatiful as what ARR did..... so rather than saying u got atracted to the beats,u got atracted to his ARRANGEMENT of the LOOPS.... ok va?!!! ;)
so true!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by nilavupriyan
Ridiculous to see MD elaborates in TV interview how he created this tune etc/etc but quite comical if we know that it is lifted from someone. :lol:
I enjoyd this comical scene when I watched interview from MD of ULLATHAI ALI THA . :rotfl:
ramesh
Terrific post :D Absolutely true. :clap: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by nilavupriyan
Copying or remixing , use whatever phrases, MDs like IR & ARR could last for a long duration because of originality.
If you are a copy cat, you are exposed sooner or later & get discarded unless the producer looks for a low budget movie but wants the songs to be popular !
hahahahahahaha :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakeeran
Nakeeran avara vittu vittu innoruthara paraturarampaa
Sanjeevi anneQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
enna Nakeeran endral verum kutram kandupidikum pulavan endra ninaitheergal. Naan kali kaala nakeeran.
Nalladhoru vakku oruvar sonnal adhai manamara paaratuven :D
By the way, neenga edhavadhu oru nalvakku sollunga pls. Romba naalachu :lol:
adding to wat dinesh has said here, ARR also develops his own loops......that's y his sounds are exhilarating.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
Question: Mr Rahman, I thought you wanted to clear up the controversies surrounding the following -- do you think that the usage of synthesized sound makes a song seem less creative. For example, with systhesized beats, other artistes could have used the same beats. in this case, listeners may mistakenly think that the whole song was copied. Like the rhythm in Telephone manipol from Indian (many of my friends in the US commented that the song sounds like 'I saw the sign' from Ace Of Base, even though the tune was different)
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A R Rahman's Answer
There was a trend all over the world for programmers to make music with loops. It was very new and made it easy to do songs. But I have equippped myself better now and I'm able to produce far better rhythm stuff originally. Though the Telephone song was orginal, some of the loops resembled the kind used by Ace Of Base. And these things are avoided completely now.
Appo sonnaru, in the mid 90's ... 8-)
Source: arrahmanfans
Watched Dhoom-2 yesterday. Be it songs or bgm, it is far from good. I think Yuvan is far better than these craps. So no need to go there and prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaregama
I didn't expect this much fight/response for this topic. Simply I created with those albums in mind. Now, it has become a big fight.
But, people should agree that ARR's craze is reducing in tamil. The real competition is between U1 and HJ, which seemed to be tilting slightly towards U1 (taking number of albums released and hits given into consideration)
anyway, keep on commenting/fighting.
so, can u pls remove ARR from the list or request mods to do it??Quote:
Originally Posted by kokarako
The real competition is between U1 and HJ, which seemed to be tilting slightly towards U1 (taking number of albums released and hits given into consideration)
Number of albums okay. I think VV/Anniyan/Gajini made HJ house hold name. you cannot deny that. In terms of hit U1 is slightly behind.
ramesh
yes please....remove ARR's name from the thread..............Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Do you guys still believe that if MODS remove ARR from the list, there won't be any comparisons drawn on him ? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinesh2002
I would suggest them to include ALL THE MDs in the list so that we can have :tongueout: :smokesmirk: :cool2: :argue: stuffs
Watched Dhoom-2 yesterday. Be it songs or bgm, it is far from good. I think Yuvan is far better than these craps. So no need to go there and prove.Quote:
Originally Posted by arsaregama
trust me.... there is faar better albums/bgm in hindi...ur just seeing a famouse film of hindi... something like watching a famouse film in tamil...which not neccasary to have good songs/bgm....Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJudge
try watching BLACK.....
Nobody denies the fact that ARR is a genius and we cannot compare U1 and HJ with him.
But, the real thing is he is not able to give a real hit after Boys.
Between U1 and HJ, I still believe U1 is slightly better because he is giving quality music / hits even to newcomers. HJ mostly works with proven directors/actors. HJ's success depends on movie's success also. We can say that Ullam Ketkume is not a hit compared to Ghajini/Anniyan/VV.
Opinion differs. This is just my opinion.