http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...om_child_.html
One thing I always admired in this country is the dedication of the police force in doing their best in 911 situations! :clap:
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c...om_child_.html
One thing I always admired in this country is the dedication of the police force in doing their best in 911 situations! :clap:
Usually, in such a startling case like this (woman throwing child into Hudson river in Manhattan is kind of earth shattering in U.S.), they'll immediately scoop up a lot of background information.
In this case, however, though it's well-reported (WSJ, NYT etc carried reports), there's still no info on the whereabouts of the husband. The woman supposedly attempted this ghastly incident to warn / seek attention / redressal etc from husband (claims that he neglected them by traveling around / leaving her lonely etc) and still there's absolutely no info on the husband.
Surprising!
I always respect and wonder the laws of USA. They are the best?
A thought-provoking article:
http://www.incubation360.com/rationa...a-joy-or-curse
"Maoist rebels have attacked a bus in central India and killed at least 20 people, including civilians and police officers, according to officials."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8687317.stm
Commies can only be suppressed with Boots Bats and Bullets!! There are a couple things to be learned from The Fuerher Of The Reich! :P
Directions To Supress An Unwanted, Widely Unpopular Criminal Psuedo Revolution.
Administer with Repitition : Brutal, Agonizing Ruthless and Crippling Blows To The Enemy Until He Seizes To Move and Put and End To This Oriental Deviation of Bolshevism In Great Hindustan! :twisted:
http://www.ndtv.com/news/india/naxal...lled-26123.php
What the central govt is thinking about Naxals? :huh: Pa.Chi :hammer:
They were saying this to Pakistan before, now Maoists....Quote:
Recent attacks:
The Naxals had on April 6 carried out their deadliest attack killing 76 security personnel in Mukrana forests of Dantewada district.
On May 8, seven CRPF jawans were killed when Naxals blew up a bullet-proof vehicle in Bijapur district.
The Maoists also killed six villagers, including a sarpanch, near Teregaon in Rajnandgaon district yesterday and threw their bodies outside the villages.
The Congress condemned Monday's incident saying the strictest action must be taken against the Naxals.
I have a question: What is the Indian Army being used for? I know that we have High Numbers in the Army, but are most of them busy near Kashmir and the Pak Border?
Can't the Govt just launch a series of attacks using Indian Special Forces or something in Chatisgar first, and then go one by one? IMO The Indian Army is Completely underused, and there is PLENTY of room for Improvement. In an earlier Maoist Attack an Army General said that the Soldiers weren't trained to fight this way..... :?
This Is The Nation's Army!!! :banghead: They're supposed to be a LETHAL FIGHTING MACHINE which'll delivery Death where ever it GOES! :roll: Soldiers are supposed to be "The Toughest, Cruelest, Most Unforgiving Bastards in God's Cruel Kingdom!"
For God's Sake! Hitler made the German Army go from a mere 100,000 to Millions in a Span of just 5 Years, and also Conquered where ever he choosed for the beggining and middle of WWII!! (France, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Austria, and some Territories of the Soviet Union!) In all Fairness, he had all of Germany under his spell, and millions of Germans joined just to fullfil Hitler's vision of Germany...But Still!
With India's Potential, the Indian Army could be perfected.
Ithule naraiya interest kaamchaley, Pak'll start quieting down. Increase recruitment, funding, and implement some of the Training Routines from other Great Armies in the world like The US Army.
The US Armed Forces have several Divisions of Specially Trained Ground Combat.
Marines
Rangers
Marshals
Seals
etc etc.
Any such divisions in the Indian Armed Forces?
Yes we have MARCOS, Garuda, Mountain Warfare Team (Best in the world) etc etc. Quite a number of special forces. As you rightly pointed out they are grossly under used.
Shall we start a thread for defence related discussions and analysis?
I was thinking of the same thing. :) Please do us the honor. :wink: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Done :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewto...128681#2128681
What happened to his conquests in the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
Where is/are he / his followers / ideologies?
And do you want Indian gov to imitate him and destroy millions of lives?
Doesn't sound logical...
This is a 2-part information. First part is increasing the strength and second part is the greed to conquer the world. I presume Stiglitz advocated only the first part. When you have lots of thieves, rogues and robbers in your area, it would be wise to fortify your home.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Sathya,
Exactly! :clap:
App_Engine,
If Hitler has only conquered the areas which were robbed from Germany by the Victors of the First World War, and other Areas which had a large German Population, it'd would've been Fine!
When Hitler marched into Austria, the Allies didn't Declare war. When Hitler Took over the Sudatenland portion of Chech, the allies didn't declare war.
It was after he invaded Poland. Which is unnecessary!
If nazies did exactly what they did, but didn't go Land Hungry, and anti-semetic to the point of exterminating a race, i think Germany would be Freaggin Awesome under them. 8-) But thats not possible, but that's what I was reffering to there.
* Make the Indian Army and Army to Fear. Indian Army = Nightmares which seem so real and cause Chronic Insomnia. 8-) That's desperatly needed now IMO.
Pak romba vaal atudhu, and China just keeps occupying Indian Territories. :huh: What must we do?
Indian army is already capable enough to drive out Pak out of POK and establish peace in Kashmir. But, as I mentioned, do we have the leaders with strong will and commitment to do that?
Definatley Don't! :cry2:Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Driving Pak out of POK will not necessarily establish peace in Kashmir. I'm not convinced the people of POK will joyously accept Indian rule, for one.Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
And there's also the question of what China will do if we go to war with Pakistan. They're hardly likely to remain perfectly neutral in fact, even if they remain neutral on paper.
I think you misunderstand the general's point. The 'jungle' in which the Maoists operate is quite heavily populated by Gonds and other Adivasis. A full-scale operation of the sort you're talking about won't be able to distinguish them from the Maoists. It will kill thousands of innocent Indian citizens and render lakhs homeless. That is what the General was talking about when he said Indian soldiers aren't trained to fight this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
Even the Hyderabad as a State wanted to remain independent / join Pak (IIRC). Didn't Sardar Patel brought them to their knees? We need intelligent and strong leaders. China will surely try and encroach us if we go at war vs Pak. So, India is already building a network in Far East to counter Chinese Footprints alongside Malacca Strait which is supplying 80% of Chinese Oil Requirements. If we choke them there, we can make China suffocate. Alliance with Japan, Taiwan etc would be a wise option.Quote:
Originally Posted by podalangai
Valid concern and very true. But, there should be a way to counter the naxals. I read a news around 1 - 1.5 years back. A bandit in one of the northern state was killed after 3-4 days of intense fight. He was fighting 300-400 policemen! 1 Vs 400 :shock: Reason - He was hiding among the villagers and using them as shield. Naxals are employing same strategy. So, flush out option can be ruled out. We need to formulate a different strategy to neutralize this threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by podalangai
That's why before these things happen, we must improve the Power of the Indian Army first. Increase Numbers, Weapons, Alter War/Fighting Ethics. Whatever Necessary. If India invades Pak or Drives out the Pakies from POK now, it'd be a lot harder to handle the repercussions. No Doubt! It shouldn't be done now with the current state that the Indian Armed Forces.Quote:
Originally Posted by podalangai
Thanks for the Clarification. :oops: I thought he was talking abt Guerrilla Warfare in General. :oops:Quote:
That is what the General was talking about when he said Indian soldiers aren't trained to fight this way.
:o :DQuote:
China will surely try and encroach us if we go at war vs Pak. So, India is already building a network in Far East to counter Chinese Footprints alongside Malacca Strait which is supplying 80% of Chinese Oil Requirements. If we choke them there, we can make China suffocate. Alliance with Japan, Taiwan etc would be a wise option.
How big is the Civilian Population in that area?Quote:
He was hiding among the villagers and using them as shield. Naxals are employing same strategy. So, flush out option can be ruled out. We need to formulate a different strategy to neutralize this threat.
With Hyderabad, the population was overwhelmingly in favour of joining India - there was a strong local movement in favour of accession to India led by popular leaders Swami Ramanand Thirtha. The Nizam unleashed a reign of terror using Qasim Razvi's Razakars to suppress this. So Sardar Patel was pushing at an open door - he knew and expected that Indian forces would be welcomed as liberators by the local residents, and that is what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
Things are different in POK. People there don't feel particularly loyal to India, and they will not necessarily welcome the Indian army as liberators. That's the difference really.
Hmm. I'm not sure. I agree that India needs to be a bit more sensible about dealing with China's growing influence, but I don't think the government is actually doing anything about this. China's military technology and capabilities are now light years ahead of ours. As, for that matter, is their projection of their "soft" power - they have the sort of network of allies around the developing world that we dreamed of in the 50s and 60s, but never managed to achieve. It's not going to be easy to counter that. But I've spoken my mind often enough on this forum about India's foreign policy, and I don't think I should repeat myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sathya_1979
It varies. In Dantewada district, for example, they control around 40% of the district's area - I believe there're around 2 lakh people in the Naxalite-controlled areas. In Bastar, the figure is at least 50% higher and possibly even double that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
Don't we remember the horrible massacre unleashed by Maoist during the last ambush? Nearly 70 trained units were killed when Maoist gorillas ambushed the troupe on their way back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8604256.stm
I think that is when our wonderful home minister declared "the buck stops with the chief minister" :banghead:
Reg POK:
Hmmm...Basically, India just isn't equipped to handle the concequences of "Massive Deployment of Indian Troops into Kashmir and just push back the Pak forces into Pakistan, Claim our Territory, because that's what we're after. If people don't want India, they can leave. The border is right there. We'll handle what you throw at us and more."
But that doesn't sound bad at all... How come we don't strive for that sort of Power? No one's had that Vision in the Indian Govts so far? Or is it, as usual Corruption Cripples the Development more than any fault in Vision.
Are there any X Prime Ministers who concentrated on the military?
Yes. America will intervene for sure... America and China are too defendant on each other Economically. Why were we not able to achieve our dreams from the fifties and sixties? Did we not follow up with consistent effort?Quote:
As, for that matter, is their projection of their "soft" power - they have the sort of network of allies around the developing world that we dreamed of in the 50s and 60s, but never managed to achieve.
Reg Maoists:
YIKES! :shaking: So the best option is Subtle Army Operations where there is a pirticular target... Large Scale Operations r too Strong.
It's a bit of both, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
Yes, absolutely. But we'll need to fundamentally rethink the relationship between Adivasis and the State if we want to have any chance of ending the Naxalite rebellion. It's not a coincidence that the Maoists are strongest in Adivasi areas. Successive central and state governments have been nothing short of cruel to adivasis. To give just one example, adivasis are only around 8% of the population of India, but a massive 55% of people displaced by government projects are Adivasis. Resettlement packages tend to be far worse for Adivasis because they usually have no legal title to the land where they dwell, and they're subject to a lot of harassment by local officials, especially because huge chunks of Adivasi areas have been declared national forests. All this is going to have to change - until Adivasis can expect the same type of treatment from the government that well-connected upper middle class people get, the root causes of the Maoist insurgency won't die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
US Police :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo91X...eature=popular
Those comments were quite Interesting. :) Still waitin for the Video to load. :x
Whoa!! Holy Crap! :shock: Anyone know what happened to this guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kambar_Kannagi
What was his name again?
In all fairness, this guy was a bit Obnoxious... :roll:
Why not just calmly answer their questions? Sure it looks like a Police State when just the Audio is Playing with a unpleasant scene as the Wallpaper of the Screen, and condescendingly pointing in a direction. There isn't any video, we don't know what they looked like. Was there something in their appearance which made them suspects?
Not Race and Skin Tone!! :notthatway: Maybe their clothing? The Condition of their Vehical? :roll: Terrorism isn't the only reason people are arrested on the Border. Drug Dealers, Illegal Arms Dealers, Illegal Immigrants, etc etc. :huh:
And the Officer does say: "I'm not calling u a terrorist! We arrest Drug Dealers on the border." and again later: "Sure u say that to me now...but what if we let you through and you go drop off drugs in your friend's warehouse?" :? :lol:
So I don't think they were suspected of being terrorists necessarily.
The Officer also says that 3 Terrorists are caught at the Border a Day. I highly doubt this, and the officer was probably just trying to show his dominance in the situation by saying that in the Tone which he did... :lol2:
But the treatment that this guy recieved is Shameful! It shouldn't be that way in a Free Country... What the Hell??? It's morally wrong to treat people this way when they're just in the first stages of an investigation (Which is what makes the video seem a bit outrageous.) even if the involved Civilian was an Awkward Emotional Ginormous Olympic Douchbag... :notthatway:
But then I've got a bit of a Dillema... As an unaware American Civilian in this Sensitive Issue....I'm not usually Innocent and Optimistic. All I know is another attack on American Soil is Unacceptable... And what ever The American Security Services have been doing, morally right or wrong, has kept America safe after September 11th, 2001, while all of the other Allies like Britain, Spain, Germany, et all have been victims to Terror from the same Criminals.
So what now? Risk It? Or just be rude and offending, but if you just cooperate for a few mins, you're a free man, unless you are guilty, or the Universe has targeted you for one Lousy Prank! :twisted:
I've lived in America since I can remember, and I've never been targeted by Law Enforcement due to my Skin Tone! I've been pulled over, given tickets etc, but I deserved them. Never felt like I was a victim of Racial Abuse! :notthatway: :D
Same experience for the last 7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stiglitz
Even when we had to wait at the border entry post (travelling from Toronto to Detroit by road and my son's earlier passport was missing the lastname ; I had to prove to a higher official -boss of the one on desk who verifies tha passport- with his birth certificate etc), the treatment was very dignified!
Sure it was not "pleasant" to sit for 30 minutes in a "military-office-like-setting" with wife and child and uniformed people going about their duties, but I recognized that the unpleasantness was only my paronoia :-)
While the border one was a "scary" incident, I've had tons of very pleasant incidents with authorities here :-)
Compare that with my various "waitings and treatments" in gov offices in India over the years! Except for a few rare occasions it was always stressful. (A good experience was with the passport officer at Trichy who gave a personal appointment to hear my case and issued ECNR without the degree certificate - the university had a nonsense procedure of "applying and getting it" even though you've completed the course; I never bothered to do that those days like many others who joined the campus-interview-job. Applied for it after 10 years and the ECNR incident was kind of a trigger).
http://www.dailythanthi.com/article....date=5/21/2010
"வேலை" நாளிலேயே வெட்டி அடிப்பாங்க, இவங்களுக்கு இப்படியெல்லாம் லீவு வேற.
Shameful waste of public money!
(வேறு ஒரு இணையதளம் சொல்லுகிறது முதல் அமைச்சருக்குப்பாராட்டு விழா நடத்துவதற்காகவே இந்த லீவு என்று.
If true, that's even more disgusting. )
A saddening article from the ToI about the increase in men demanding paternity tests because they don't trust their wives:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/C...ow/5955886.cms
The article also suggests that suspicions of infidelity are often a symptom of psychosis. Either way, I wonder what's behind the seeming increase in the number of suspicious husbands.Quote:
The number of paternity tests conducted at the FSL's Kalina and Nagpur labs has been so huge that the FSL is now planning to also introduce the facility at its Amravati, Aurangabad, Pune and Nashik centres. Invariably, the father suspects infidelity. Manoj Tandon (name changed), 34, landed up at a Mahim hospital seeking psychiatric help. Tandon spent sleepless nights wondering if his one-year-old son was actually his neighbour's. He would incessantly compare his son's mannerisms with that of his neighbour's. Tandon's doubts were further fuelled by his mother, who also suspected the child was born out of wedlock. A DNA test revealed the suspicions were unfounded.
Hundreds of paranoid husbands like Manoj are queuing up outside laboratories with questions about the child's parentage. Experts say that when spouses stay apart due to professional commitments, the doubts increase.
An endless fight against manual scavenging
http://www.hindu.com/2010/05/23/stor...2355790900.htm
"Each morning a group of Dalit women step outside their homes to 'fulfill their social role' of cleaning dry latrines with their brooms and bare hands. They then carry human excrement in pots and baskets on their heads.Braving the worst possible form of caste oppression, these women lead unhygienic lives -- devoid of dignity and rights -- for wages as low as Rs.15 a month".
"I was not used to doing this work before I was married but my mother-in-law forced me. I don't blame her; it was the only way we could feed our families. We were told that our ancestors did this and this was the only work we could do as Dalits,” says Kusum, who left scavenging ten months ago to work as a sweeper."
“Every day after dumping the waste I used to go back to the same houses to collect stale food and beg for money. I worked every single day for over 40 years, even during rains which caused the basket's contents to seep out and cover me in filth".
"Cleaning dry toilets and manually removing human waste is a violation of human rights and dignity and was prohibited over 17 years ago. The Employment of Manual Scavengers and Construction of Dry Latrines (Prohibition) Act, 1993, lays down a jail term of up to one year or fine of Rs.2,000. However, there were no prosecutions until 2005 when 21 people were convicted in Haryana. But they got bail the next day".
"A petition in the Supreme Court in 2003 forced the State Governments to act in 2007. Though administrations will deny manual scavenging, municipalities and the Railways are the biggest employers. Indian Railways responded to one of our PILs saying they would take over 30-40 years for the transition and promised to ‘consider' the court order. The tracks have to be cleaned manually since coaches have the ‘open discharge' system, and most stations are not equipped with concretised platforms allowing waste to be washed away with jets of water".
"Most scavengers have respiratory problems, asthma, tuberculosis and jaundice. To escape the sight and smell, many male scavengers take drugs and alcohol and eventually succumb to diseases... They cannot tolerate the smell and sights ,and drugs or liquor are their form of escape from reality until the next round when they will go on and start cleaning.”
Many countries have laws that would send people to jail for treating animals in a cruel manner. We are talking about our fellow human beings!
This is the year 2010, and India is slowly transitioning itself from third world status to becoming a member of the G-12 group. We have already sent an unmanned space mission to the Moon, and are planning a mission to Mars in the not too distant future!
What a shame!!!
:banghead: vallarasu India :rotfl:
Hmm......looks like too many of them have read "The Scarlet Letter"! :| :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by podalangai
How sickening :banghead:
14-year olds rape thier classmate and molest many others. Gangsterism rife in this school.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp...&sec=starprobe
all involved are tamil boys. emulating tamil mass movie heroes?
Tamil Mass Heroes don't usually rape tho...:? wierd crap...14 yr olds raping... When I was 14 I had just started taking interest in girls... :? it was also about the same time I started hubbing. :P
I was talking about looking up to gangsterism and power over others. Easy to move to sexual power.
BTW, one mass hero did rape a woman who said no to his request for marriage. :P