Why so much negative views on the movie ?
Why so much negative views on the movie ?
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Originally Posted by Lokee
Due to the maker.. !!Quote:
Originally Posted by PARAMASHIVAN
Today (Sep 9) on Vinayaga Chathurthi day, the first look teaser of Superstar Rajinikanth’s Kochadaiyaan has been released. The producers Eros International released the teaser at 9.30 on Youtube, and it became an instant hit.
The teaser of Kochadaiiyaan says – “There are heroes and superheroes. But there is only one Rajinikanth.” The photorealistic Rajinikanth walks in style, with hundreds of dancers behind him against the background of a castle.
Kochadaiiyaan is the first photorealistic 3D film produced in India, through motion capture, performance capture through facial scanning, and intensive research and development of emerging technologies.
The teaser carries mixed reports from a section who watched it, as they feel the graphics are of poor quality and not up to international level. Anyway nothing to worry as there will be a huge audience for the film.
A single composed by AR Rahman will be released later this month and the audio launch is being planned for October, around Navaratri. The producers of Kochadaiiyaan is trying to release the film on 12/12/13, Rajinikanth's 63rd birthday.
Let me not get into a "replying" spree but stick to be general and talk about the teaser. For me, Kochadaiiyan rests as a prestigious project and I will always take a precautious step while talking about it. I would like to first talk about some aspects that I saw in the teaser, before entering into budjet constrains - direction - music - story and all, moreover setting myself a bit back from making global conclusions that too after watching a 1m10s teaser.
In the teaser, $$-$$ => seconds interval
18-20 - ariel view of a palace (seagulls noise) => Rajini not seen
25-26 - the arena (crowd cheering) => Rajini not seen
28-30 - horse back (horse nahing + horse foot-step & dust noise) => Rajini not seen
32-33 - warrior back, warrior jump (sword swing noises) => 1st time you see Rajini for a macro second
36-40 - explosion, Fullframe warrior, zoom on angry-face warrior (explosion sound followed by war horns) => 2nd time Rajini seen, this time a full 1 sec
43-44 - 1 leg thavam (lightening sounds masked with war horn thunders and sword swing noises) => Rajini, but the low-angle-camera does allow you to pin him out
47-49 - Horse ride, group dance, kick-sword-&-brutal-kill-with-spear, thin bamboo logs falling, King-arthur-style-sword-burying (drum box - possibly a war theme music) => 1st and last frame you have a quick glimpse of Rajini
56-58 - Raja Nadai (theme music - possibly intro song) => Full 2 seconds Rajini
So you have only approx. 17 secs of hyper-fast-editted visuals in the whole 1m10secs teaser. In that 17secs, Rajini is present for 5 secs and in that 5 secs, you actually see him for 3 secs and those 3 secs are a flash. Well ... (don't wish to continue further, think the msg is passed)
A teaser is not from the final cut. But what I saw was an enormous amount of precision on the contrast. The 3D models are fabulous, yet there is a problem with the scope. The scope correction is post-production process and I beleive its ongoing. The above is just an icing analyse, but if I take one such frame "kick-sword-&-brutal-kill-with-spear" was completely briliant. Each movement was captured throughly and in this brief second, the RR was excellent.
Comming to the final 2 seconds that seems to have disappointed many. Again all the movements, including the shadows of the group artists, the lighting effect while Rajini is walking towards us, not to mention the hair and face of Rajini are captured excellently.
Pinning the highest hope on ARR. Even computer games have better graphics than This.
I thought indians were some of worlds best computer graphics makers, correct me if im wrong.
teaser looks mediocre at its very best.. 2007-le vantha sultan trailer looks better than this, then what work they doing for last 7 years? ithule comparing with tintin vera..
teaser release-ku before tintin mathiri irukkumnu solla vendiyathu.. release-ku appuram dont compare with hollywood, avanga budget vera apdinu solla vendiyathu :idontgetit:
deposit eh poyidum pola irukkey saar..
intha analysis ellam public/fans panna mattanga...! they just want to see if they will enjoy the end product...if end product not enjoyable no point in talking about why it din't turn out okay...Quote:
Originally Posted by mappi
I am correcting you ! They are not. There own track record(s), stands as testimony.Quote:
Originally Posted by interz
Well Computer Games looks better because,Company like Sony spends anywhere between 150 to 300 Million for developing A Game.
Which Fublic you are talking about ? Who enjoyed Singam II? This is a new product for Indian market, It will be either whole heartedly accepted or rejected by its Core audience (Age 8-14) anything beyond that would be a bonus. Given she is a new director.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokee
https://twitter.com/urstrulyNafras/s...786305/photo/1
her facial features are really good in the scene...
soundarya ashwin @sound_a_rajini 6h
@deepikapadukone @Kochadaiiyaan The beautiful princess "Vadhana Devi" :):):) next teaser just to reveal your look stunner!!! :):):)
Lol, If it is indeed aimed at Children, then the movie will do very good business,since it is aimed at Family audience!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
:lol: aZingam 2 was aimed at "Highly" Intellect Fublik!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
A2A I posted that image immediately after watching teaser ! why is madam creating for much noise for something this lame ? She just doesn't get it , does she?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
do you like the trailer...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
last few seconds was saving grace for me. I was happy to see his smile :) it was worth staying up nite till 1.00 AM!. Animation is little creepy in few places. I am 90% sure final product will be little better than what we saw in teaser. Entire teaser had too many slow motion Sequences you need stunning visuals to back it up , else it will fall flat just like this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
You too........I was one among the few people who watched the trailer at 12.00 AM (EST).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
ippo ipdi you are telling.. but before teaser released soundarya/team members/fans etc ellarum rajini irunthale pothum, vera ethuvum thevai illai, records smash aagum et al was being said..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
this is what i am referring to.. public out there are now expecting a RAJINI movie, esp becuz of how they marketed... even fans were expecting a Rajini movie..! but this is not what you are getting..
avanga panna hype-kum spend panna time/money-kum end product-kum sammanthame illatha mathiri irukku, IMHO..
This is apparently the final product. Dubbing is going on and movie is slotted for 12.12.13 release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
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Originally Posted by nickraman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGX5jqBDjmY&nomobile=1
He says there is two more levels of work which can happen only after dubbing.
Kochadaiyaan to release on Rajinikanth's birthday 12.12.2013Quote:
Originally Posted by Avadi to America
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news...day-12.12.2013
That trailer is what they have done in seven years lol.
:notthatway: sultan'ai maranthidunga...Quote:
Originally Posted by mareen
Trailer illainga teaser...Quote:
Originally Posted by mareen
Fine tune is the magic word that comes to my mind.
For ex : The horses : I don't think it was done using motion capture. Actually Rajini rocks (motion capture) as though he is on the horse, but the horse was added only after (3D animation). It has to be seen whether they make the horses look proportionate.
Well, I am not sure they have integrated all the images and models, also I do not have any clue on the softwares used - any info on that would be appreciated.
I also think that after the dubbing, there is tuning to be done on the animation to sink with the expressions and as usual some final touches.
The 2nd one, I don't know. Checking ....
What worries me is that, if the colorings are already done, its a pain to do a retouch on the corrections.
I sincerely hope they release the making off either in a book format or as a bonus material.
While its pretty apparent that the quality is of no match to the ones seen in Avatar or Tintin, I believe we need to cut some slack. An effort has been made and it needs to be appreciated. Plus as mappi said, I believe the motion capture was only for the actors. Even in the case of Avatar, the riding of the mountain banshee and the great leonopteryx were done using simulators. And there wasn't a single close up shot of Rajni. There were a lot of medium shots. I feel the CU shots would be sort of an indicator of as to how well the motion capture has turned out.
oru vazhiya intha teaser expectationa koraichuthu....
Yes, I totally agree with you on the CU. As I had mentioned, in the teaser there is only 17 secs of visuals, that was mistook by few as a technical analysis. But no, I just wanted to stress that with 17secs of (minimal) visuals what can we infer ? But still they have left behind some materials in the teaser that I personally felt that they have come out pretty clean. Another point to note is that there are no voice at all - no human sound, that puts some weird thoughts in me whether the dubbing is really completed or ... but it seemed as though ARR has finished his work. Avarum, Rasul Pookutti-um summa "chak-ting-sling-nu" RR la velaiyadi irrukanga.
On a personal Fanboy note : I would have mixed Billa2 + Rise of the titans for the teaser => the whole title card was a big draw back, nothing new in either color or fonts (see 2nd World for that). So, I would have cut those and showed only the visuals in a "eye-blink" manner, slowly increasing the interest and the momentum until the epic Rajini nadai. After the end title card, I would have closed the teaser with a soaring Rajini with a spear on top of a "red-eyed-evil-toothed-dolphin" with an epic ARR blast.
Actually, I was waiting for something like that in the end, but sat there just gazing the monitor !
Hope the trailer has some exiting stuff like that.
if nothing much can be inferred from a 17 seconds teaser then what was the point of releasing that and killing the konja nanja expectation that kochadaiyan carried from 2007 [esp after undergoing numerous title changes lol]...?
those who r teasing the teaser...
resul pookutty @resulp 12h
@kamalraj058 this is a teaser, this is nothing, this is not even 0.00001% of what it is..!!!
Appadiey adiengaya antha aala...expectationey vandamnu soldren...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thala_rasigan
Give it a break will you? Rajini in any form / any quality is far more superior to other jujubees around!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokee
An Army of Rajini Fans is waiting to prove again ! Why he is the emperor of Indian cinema.
Neengea peasarada patha , neengea vangea poora oru ticketla than indha padam ooda success adengerruka?
Then why buildup teaser then? Saarugaan put crores to hire foreign technicians from states to give Ra 1 the richness (movie be damned.) Coincidentally, that too was under Eros's banner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thala_rasigan
Anyways, all hopes on ARR & KSR. Let's see.
Unga point ellam unmaithan.. but it simple to understand here.,. Rajni has been used as an Oorukai here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
Ennathan Rajni nadichaalum padam nalla illaina oothikkum.
:exactly: i 100% hope kochadaiiyan wil beat Enthiran records in all mannerQuote:
Originally Posted by Dilbert
hw cn u say tat.. u jus saw a teaser nt a whole movie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokee