Mankind.. BORN-VEGETARIAN.??..!!

Sudhaama Avl wrote,

"Mankind is the wisest Creature... comparatively weak by inborn physical powers..

...but mainly DEPENDING ON THE WISDOM... more than the Physical Might meakly bestowed by birth.

However with the help of innate Wisdom only... Mankind is able to supersede, dominate, lead and advance over all other Living-beings..

... of even great physical might... wild-nature.. and also poisonous.

Mankind is TOTALLY in line with the VEGETARIAN Characters amongst all the Wordly Living-beings...

So Mankind is the BORN VEGETARIAN... as standardised by Law of Creation.

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you have already proved that manking is born Vegetarians as per your scientific theory (LOL).
Why go on and on ?

Since it is quite clear he is too desperate to advocate vegetarianism, seeing his insurmountable obsession with his belief, I am making a dignified retreat.

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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

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Originally Posted by Badri

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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

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Urmila

I have already answered this Question that...... initially the Mankind were Non-vegetarians.....mainly living upon Fish, Eggs and Birds.

Then became Vegetarians gradually by trying with Fruits, Vegetables, Leaves, Tender-Bamboos, Sugar-canes and the like...

..following the Vegetarian Creatures like Monkeys, Elephants, Deers etc.

Then they learnt Farming... which lead to making Grains as their main Food subsequently.
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Ok, by your own admission, you say mankind was initially non-vegetarian, but later evolved to become vegetarian. If that is the case, then how can you claim they were born vegetarian?

Did cows, deer, elephants - all start off by being non-vegetarians, before evolving into a vegetarian (herbivorous, to be correct) species?

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God created various creatures and suiting to their Functional demands, he created the Apt foods too.

He also shaped the Bodily features for each creature... to reach, acquire, eat, digest and assimilate into the system.

In such a course... Nature has created certain Living-beings as Vegetarian Species and some others as Non-Veg Species.

For example Dog is a Non-Veg Specy. But there are cases... where the Dogs have been brought up as Vegetarian only all along.

But it cannot concluded even in that case that Dog is a BORN-VEGETARIAN.

similarly there are some Monkeys which live upon Insects and such other NV stuff. But that cannot change its Innate classification as Born-Vegetarian.

It is the Food compatibility... matching with the Activities and Bodily Features.

For example the Scorpian has been made as one of the Foods for the Lizard. So its body is immune for the Scorpian stings and Poison... while eating its prey.

Man is the most Brainy creature... God has ever created...

.. with minimum needs of Bodily functions. But maximum by Wisdom.

In such a case.. what is the broad Classification amongst the two groups?...

..Apt for Mankind?.. which means the answer...

Mankind Born V or NV..

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Continuation.

How is it ascertained in such cases of change of Food habits also.. as the Specy.?

Vegetarian Congress... had conducted the Research.. by which they learnt that...

..when a different sort of Food is eaten out of Survival demand or by Forcible feed... as in the above quoted cases...

..it has been observed that even though with such alternate food the particular Animal is able to just survive...

..it becomes unable to maintain its Unique functional capacities.

For example the Horse is the BORN GRASS EATER...

..but out of Survival demand... in extreme cases... if it eats leaves however nutritious it may be...

..the Horse falls sick in course of time.

Or becomes too weak to perform its basic activity to run.

Even in the case of same classification of Vegetarian ingredients.. viz Grass and Leaves...

..when we are able to notice conspicuous difference of impact..

..how far the contrary classification of Food can affect its well-being and Normalcy ofLife can be imagined.

Biologically the Bodily features and Digestive system of the Vegetarian Species amongst the Animals...

..are directly tallying with the Features and Life-style of Mankind asserts the Vegetarian Congress.

And by Comparative analysis testing with Veg and Non-Veg Foods on the Babies have rendered a clear finding...

..that the Mankind behaves different according to the Food consumed.

A Calf fed with Donkey's milk... behaved like a Donkey when grown up. Similarly if fed with Donkey's Food too...the same result.

Man is a Subtle, Non-emotional, Soft-natured Defensive Non-Violent creature as shaped by God by birth....

..unlike the Non-Veg Animals exhibiting its Wildness and Aggressive Offensive attitude right from birth.

Food is one of the Contributing Main factors... which changes the approach, attitude, tastes and intentions...

...of Mankind too... making him far different...

... from any Brainy creature such as Monkey, Gurilla, Elephant etc.

... which degree differs from person to person.

Thus the Veg. Congress asserts that Food not only contributes as Nutrition...

.. but also towards the Qualities... CONSPICUOUSLY.

However we cannot generalise. There are rare exceptions.
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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Since it is quite clear he is too desperate to advocate vegetarianism, seeing his insurmountable obsession with his belief, I am making a dignified retreat.

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Since it is quite clear he is too desperate to advocate vegetarianism, seeing his insurmountable obsession with his belief, I am making a dignified retreat.

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I am not despearate. You can judge from my maximum number of replies occupying maximum amount of space of the day.

This is a TOUGH SUBJECT... of highly disputed topic... since several decades.

I am yet to clarify WITH MORE POINTS a lot.

But when I find the antagonists here.. are VERY EMOTIONAL AND SUPER-SENSITIVE...

..even to hear a Contrary View... I have to be patient to put forth.

All others are not like you Madam.

So I should not be hasty to overload with too many points at a time.. but gradually one by one.

So it must not be mistaken as my WEAKNESS TO SUBSTANTIATE.
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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Since it is quite clear he is too desperate to advocate vegetarianism, seeing his insurmountable obsession with his belief, I am making a dignified retreat.

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Wise decision, Mrs PP!

There was even a poll on this, right at the beginning and the results seem to indicate little support for the Born Veg theory!

What was the point of the poll, if one person chooses to impress his theory on all others, even when almost everyone disagrees?

1. What are the different types of vegetarians?

There are several different variations of the vegetarian diet. Strict vegetarians, called vegans, eat no animal products at all. The staples of their diets are fruits, vegetables, legumes (beans and peas), grains, seeds, and nuts. Lacto-vegetarians eat dairy products in addition to plant foods. Lacto-ovo vegetarians include dairy products and eggs as well as plant foods in their diets.

People who eat animal flesh (meat, fish, chicken) are not considered to be vegetarians. However, as the health benefits of a vegetarian diet become more widely known, many people reduce or eliminate animal products. For example, they may eat fish and chicken but no red meat, or they may eat meat in small portions only a few times a week. These people can most accurately be described as following a semi-vegetarian diet.

2. What are the health benefits of a vegetarian diet?

Vegetarian diets are lower in saturated fats, cholesterol, and animal protein. They’re also high in folate, anti-oxidant vitamins like C and E, carotenoids, and phytochemicals. Overall, vegetarians have substantially reduced risks for obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes mellitus, osteoporosis, and some forms of cancer - particularly lung cancer and colon cancer. Vegetarian diets that are low in saturated fats have been successfully used to reverse severe coronary artery disease. (1)

3. Is it possible to get enough protein on a vegetarian diet?

Absolutely, it’s actually difficult to become protein deficient unless you quit eating all together. Just about all unrefined foods contain significant amounts of protein. Potatoes are 11% protein, oranges 8%, beans 26%, and tofu 34%. In fact, people have been known to grow at astounding rates (doubling their body size in only six months) on a diet of only 5% protein. These people are infants and they do it during the first 6 months of life, fueled by breast milk, which contains just 5% protein. (2)

4. How much protein do I need, anyway?

The Recommended Dietary Allowance (R.D.A.) for protein is 0.8 grams a day per kilogram of bodyweight. (Divide your weight in pounds by 2.2 to get kilograms.) Athletes may require more protein, but the amount is small (1.0 to 1.5 grams per kilogram of bodyweight), an amount easily obtainable from a vegetarian diet.

Excess protein consumption can cause a variety of problems including bone mineral loss, kidney damage, and dehydration. Your body can only use so much protein, the excess is either broken down through oxidization, placing an enormous strain on the kidneys, or it is stored as body fat. Neither option is particularly desirable. (3)

5. What’s the difference between complete and incomplete proteins?

Animal protein contains all nine of the essential amino acids, so it has been referred to as a "complete" protein. The nine essential amino acids can also be found in plant proteins, however no single plant source contains all nine of them. Therefore, plant protein has been referred to as "incomplete."

It was once widely believed that vegetarians had to carefully combine plant protein sources in each meal in order to obtain all nine essential amino acids. However, scientific studies have shown that the human body can store essential amino acids and combine them as necessary. So, while combining beans and rice, or peanut butter and bread produces a complete protein, it’s not necessary to consciously do this at every meal. If you eat a varied diet and adequate calories, combining proteins is not an issue. (2)

6. Why do people become vegetarians?

There are a variety of reasons. Many people switch to a vegetarian diet for weight loss and improved health. Some are concerned about the safety of meat following recent outbreaks of salmonella and e. coli bacteria. Others feel that it is moral or spiritual issue. Some individuals deplore the suffering of animals in modern factory farms. Still others are concerned about the environment and world hunger. A few just don’t like meat. For many vegetarians it is a combination of issues.

7. How does vegetarianism impact the environment?

Throughout the world, forests are being destroyed to support the meat-eating habits of the "developed" nations. Between 1960 and 1985, nearly 40 percent of all Central American rain forests were destroyed to create pasture for beef cattle. More than four million acres of cropland are lost to erosion in the United States every year. Of this staggering topsoil loss, 85 percent is directly associated with livestock raising, i.e., over-grazing. Much of the excrement from "food" animals (which amounts to 20 times as much fecal matter as human waste) flows unfiltered into our lakes and streams. (4)

8. What does vegetarianism have to do with world hunger?

Raising animals for food is an extremely inefficient way to feed a growing human population. The U.S. livestock population consumes enough grain and soybeans to feed more than five times the entire U.S. population. One acre of pasture produces an average of 165 pounds of beef; the same acre can produce 20,000 pounds of potatoes. If Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent, it would free 12 million tons of grain annually for human consumption. That alone would be enough to adequately feed each of the 60 million people who starve to death each year. (4)

9. What do vegetarians eat? Don’t they miss their favorite foods?

Vegetarians have a variety of great food choices. Many of them are just slight variations on old favorites. Some popular dishes include: pasta with tomato sauce, bean burritos, tacos, tostadas, pizza, baked potatoes, vegetable soups, whole grain bread and muffins, sandwiches, macaroni, stir-fry, all types of salad, veggie burgers with french fries, beans and rice, bagels, breakfast cereals, pancakes, and waffles just to name a few. The freezer sections of most big grocery stores carry an assortment of vegetarian convenience foods such as veggie bacon, burgers, and breakfast sausages.

10. Are vegetarian diets always healthy?

Not always, if a vegetarian replaces the meat with high fat cheeses and oil, they’re not helping matters much. It’s also important to remember that there’s no meat in ice cream, potato chips, and fudge brownies. It’s certainly possible to be a vegetarian and still consume large quantities of high-fat empty calories. Vegetarian or not, a healthy diet is low in cholesterol and saturated fat and is based around fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and lean protein. Eliminating the meat doesn’t automatically make for a healthy diet

11. Is it hard to eat in a restaurant when you’re a vegetarian?

It’s actually surprisingly easy. You can always get beans, rice, and tortillas at a Mexican restaurant. Chinese restaurants offer all kinds of vegetable, rice, and tofu dishes. Italian restaurants are known for spaghetti, ravioli, vegetable lasagna, and minestrone soup. Even a steak restaurant is guaranteed to have big salads, baked potatoes and bread.

Fast food chains are surprisingly accommodating as well. Sandwich shops offer an assortment of vegetables and cheeses on a bun with mustard, mayo or whatever you prefer. Burger places are willing to leave the meat off of your sandwich. Many fast food places now offer salads, baked potatoes, or meatless pita sandwiches. The big pizza delivery companies have all kinds of delicious vegetable toppings. They’ll even leave the cheese off if you ask.

12. Is a vegetarian diet safe for children and teenagers?

According to the American Dietetic Association, vegetarian diets satisfy the needs of infants, children, and adolescents and promote normal growth. Emphasis should be placed on foods rich in calcium, iron, and zinc. They also stress that growing children need frequent meals and snacks, and that it’s okay for children to have some refined foods and foods that are higher in fat in order to meet their energy demands.

13. Aren’t vegetarians frail and weak?

No, that one is a myth. Former champion bodybuilder, Bill Pearl is a vegetarian. So is the legendary 6'8, 320 pound wrestler, Killer Kowalski; fitness guru, Jack LaLanne; Olympic gold medalist, Edwin Moses; and 6-time Ironman Triathlon winner, Dave Scott, just to name a few. Burly vegetarians from the animal kingdom include bulls, elephants, rhinos, and gorillas. Try telling one of those guys that you can’t get big and strong eating your leaves and twigs!

14. How do you make the transition to a vegetarian diet?

That depends on the individual. Some people just decide to do it and never look back. Others make gradual changes to their diets. They may start by having one or two meatless meals a day just to try it out. Some people set aside one or two days a week to go veggie, or even one day a week to eat meat. Some people start by eliminating red meat and work from there. Others just cut back on the amount of meat in their diet, using it as a condiment instead of the main course.

15. What if you live with a family of meat-eaters?

This isn’t as tricky as it sounds. It’s possible for vegetarians and meat-eaters to coexist peacefully at the same dinner table. Many dishes are a combination of vegetables, grains, and meat. The idea is to serve the various elements separately or to add the meat last.

Some suggestions include: a pizza that’s half meat / half veggie, Mexican food like tacos or fajitas that everyone assembles themselves, pasta dishes like spaghetti and meatballs with the meat added after the vegetarian has been served, or cookouts where the meat-eaters grill hot dogs and hamburgers and the vegetarian grills veggie dogs and veggie burgers. Don’t forget about meatless favorites like bread, beans, potatoes, pasta, rice, casseroles, and desserts that everyone can enjoy.

16. What do vegetarians do about travel, and social functions?

Major airlines have vegetarian meals available but you need to request it when you make your reservation. At catered events like weddings and parties, you may want to mention your dietary preferences to the host. Caterers can provide a vegetarian meal for you if they know about it ahead of time. For an important business lunch in an unfamiliar restaurant, a quick phone call to inquire about the menu options can help to put you at ease. If you’re invited to dinner in someone’s home, let the host know that you’re a vegetarian. You can also offer to contribute a dish to a dinner party or family gathering. That way you’re assured of having something good to eat.

In all of these cases, you can choose as much or as little advance preparation as you want. If you’d just as soon hang yourself with a dinner napkin than try to make special arrangements, it’s perfectly acceptable to go with the flow and make the best of what’s offered. I haven’t encountered a dining situation yet that didn’t include some variation of vegetables and bread.

17. Do vegetarians need special vitamins and supplements?

In most cases they don’t. A well-rounded vegetarian diet that includes a variety of foods usually meets all nutritional requirements. One possible exception would be vitamin B-12 which is found only in animal products. Vegetarians who limit dairy products may also want to pay special attention to getting enough calcium. Good calcium sources for vegetarians include: tofu, beans, dried figs, collard greens, blackstrap molasses, and calcium fortified orange juice or soy milk.

18. Who are some famous vegetarians?

Leonardo Da Vinci, Charles Darwin, Socrates, Plato, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Clive Barker, David Duchovny, Drew Barrymore, Candice Bergen, Kim Basinger, Paul McCartney, Chelsea Clinton, Woody Harrelson, Steve Vai, Eddie Vedder, Lisa Simpson, Hank Aaron, Alec Baldwin, Bryan Adams, Peter Gabriel, Mary Tyler Moore, Leonard Nimoy, Alicia Silverstone, Liv Tyler, Jerry Seinfeld, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Mark Twain, Henry David Thoreau. (5)

19. What do the experts say?

The American Dietetic Association says that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, are nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases

11. Is it hard to eat in a restaurant when you’re a vegetarian?

It’s actually surprisingly easy. You can always get beans, rice, and tortillas at a Mexican restaurant. Chinese restaurants offer all kinds of vegetable, rice, and tofu dishes. Italian restaurants are known for spaghetti, ravioli, vegetable lasagna, and minestrone soup. Even a steak restaurant is guaranteed to have big salads, baked potatoes and bread.

Fast food chains are surprisingly accommodating as well. Sandwich shops offer an assortment of vegetables and cheeses on a bun with mustard, mayo or whatever you prefer. Burger places are willing to leave the meat off of your sandwich. Many fast food places now offer salads, baked potatoes, or meatless pita sandwiches. The big pizza delivery companies have all kinds of delicious vegetable toppings. They’ll even leave the cheese off if you ask.

12. Is a vegetarian diet safe for children and teenagers?

According to the American Dietetic Association, vegetarian diets satisfy the needs of infants, children, and adolescents and promote normal growth. Emphasis should be placed on foods rich in calcium, iron, and zinc. They also stress that growing children need frequent meals and snacks, and that it’s okay for children to have some refined foods and foods that are higher in fat in order to meet their energy demands.

13. Aren’t vegetarians frail and weak?

No, that one is a myth. Former champion bodybuilder, Bill Pearl is a vegetarian. So is the legendary 6'8, 320 pound wrestler, Killer Kowalski; fitness guru, Jack LaLanne; Olympic gold medalist, Edwin Moses; and 6-time Ironman Triathlon winner, Dave Scott, just to name a few. Burly vegetarians from the animal kingdom include bulls, elephants, rhinos, and gorillas. Try telling one of those guys that you can’t get big and strong eating your leaves and twigs!

14. How do you make the transition to a vegetarian diet?

That depends on the individual. Some people just decide to do it and never look back. Others make gradual changes to their diets. They may start by having one or two meatless meals a day just to try it out. Some people set aside one or two days a week to go veggie, or even one day a week to eat meat. Some people start by eliminating red meat and work from there. Others just cut back on the amount of meat in their diet, using it as a condiment instead of the main course.

15. What if you live with a family of meat-eaters?

This isn’t as tricky as it sounds. It’s possible for vegetarians and meat-eaters to coexist peacefully at the same dinner table. Many dishes are a combination of vegetables, grains, and meat. The idea is to serve the various elements separately or to add the meat last.

Some suggestions include: a pizza that’s half meat / half veggie, Mexican food like tacos or fajitas that everyone assembles themselves, pasta dishes like spaghetti and meatballs with the meat added after the vegetarian has been served, or cookouts where the meat-eaters grill hot dogs and hamburgers and the vegetarian grills veggie dogs and veggie burgers. Don’t forget about meatless favorites like bread, beans, potatoes, pasta, rice, casseroles, and desserts that everyone can enjoy.

16. What do vegetarians do about travel, and social functions?

Major airlines have vegetarian meals available but you need to request it when you make your reservation. At catered events like weddings and parties, you may want to mention your dietary preferences to the host. Caterers can provide a vegetarian meal for you if they know about it ahead of time. For an important business lunch in an unfamiliar restaurant, a quick phone call to inquire about the menu options can help to put you at ease. If you’re invited to dinner in someone’s home, let the host know that you’re a vegetarian. You can also offer to contribute a dish to a dinner party or family gathering. That way you’re assured of having something good to eat.

In all of these cases, you can choose as much or as little advance preparation as you want. If you’d just as soon hang yourself with a dinner napkin than try to make special arrangements, it’s perfectly acceptable to go with the flow and make the best of what’s offered. I haven’t encountered a dining situation yet that didn’t include some variation of vegetables and bread.

17. Do vegetarians need special vitamins and supplements?

In most cases they don’t. A well-rounded vegetarian diet that includes a variety of foods usually meets all nutritional requirements. One possible exception would be vitamin B-12 which is found only in animal products. Vegetarians who limit dairy products may also want to pay special attention to getting enough calcium. Good calcium sources for vegetarians include: tofu, beans, dried figs, collard greens, blackstrap molasses, and calcium fortified orange juice or soy milk.

18. Who are some famous vegetarians?

Leonardo Da Vinci, Charles Darwin, Socrates, Plato, Sir Isaac Newton, Thomas Edison, Clive Barker, David Duchovny, Drew Barrymore, Candice Bergen, Kim Basinger, Paul McCartney, Chelsea Clinton, Woody Harrelson, Steve Vai, Eddie Vedder, Lisa Simpson, Hank Aaron, Alec Baldwin, Bryan Adams, Peter Gabriel, Mary Tyler Moore, Leonard Nimoy, Alicia Silverstone, Liv Tyler, Jerry Seinfeld, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Mark Twain, Henry David Thoreau. (5)

19. What do the experts say?

The American Dietetic Association says that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, are nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases

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Originally Posted by Badri

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Originally Posted by crajkumar_be

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Since it is quite clear he is too desperate to advocate vegetarianism, seeing his insurmountable obsession with his belief, I am making a dignified retreat.

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:lol:

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Wise decision, Mrs PP!

There was even a poll on this, right at the beginning and the results seem to indicate little support for the Born Veg theory!

What was the point of the poll, if one person chooses to impress his theory on all others, even when almost everyone disagrees?

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Dear Badri,

After all...with the opinions of just 34 persons... you are coming to a conclusion.!!

There are Hundreds of Viewers waiting to give their Verdict. please WAIT AND SEE.!!

How many agree or disagree with me is NOT IMPORTANT for me or for the Hub.

But to what extent and standard of Argument I am able to substantiate ULTIMATELY...

..is alone important.

Dear Friends... I have already made clear.. I am yet to say a lot of Main points.

But I should not be hasty... under the present trend.
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