Anban tensan aanaarEnnu sonnEn.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamizharasan
To be read in the same tone as GM to Jayachitra in maaman magaL.
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Anban tensan aanaarEnnu sonnEn.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamizharasan
To be read in the same tone as GM to Jayachitra in maaman magaL.
mani's nayagan :2thumbsup: :cheer: :happydance: :thumbsup: :cool2:
ethana peru puthusu puthusa vanthalum unna minja ennoruthan poranthu-than varanum thalaiva! :notworthy:
the direction tamil movies are going, it looks unlikely that another maniratnam will ever come....... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by A.ANAND
i hope not...Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Mysskin shall show the way ...
we dont want another marketing machine..
its win-win situation - all are happy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Anban
kamal, IR already showed him their way in couple of functions.... :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anban
yes, we want someone who can travel in bus without holding to railings and make enlightening films on society, culture, childhood love, north madurai, south madurai, east madurai, west madurai, south-west madurai, north-east madurai etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Anban
Plum/PR,Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Ungalukkulla mudivu pannittu Maddy kitta rights kaasu vaangikkunga :razz:
Madurai naeam total damage.
Atleast idhukkAgavAvadhu oru aruvaal illAdha Maduraippadam ezhudaNum
http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotn...122009-2.shtml
Madhavan might be in the Tamil version of Azan :)
http://www.masala.com/16942-ranbir-n...to-mani-ratnamQuote:
Choosy actor has only one film in his kitty
picture: Viral Bhayani
Ranbir Kapoor, who has always been choosy and picky about his films, has now refused Mani Ratnam’s “Azaan”.
His rejection spree has left him with just one film in his kitty as of now.
When Mani Ratnam narrated the script of “Azaan”, Ranbir politely declined the offer because he found the subject too dark.
Mani obviously was left disappointed as he wanted a young hero for the film. He has very few choices at his disposal. He feels that the only actors who can play the character are Ranbir, Shahid or Imran. With Ranbir refusing, he will now turn to Shahid or Imran.
Ranbir earlier said no to Zoya Akhtar, who wanted to cast him in her film. Even though Ranbir liked the story, he wasn’t sure about the screenplay.
Remba overu thambi :x
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Originally Posted by MADDY
edhukku madurai mela indha kolai veri. the oldest city in south india and one of the oldest cities of the world. It is widely considered as cultural capital for tamilnadu and it played very vital role in the development of Tamil.
illa MADDY, we want movies from a director who infuses westernized emotions into a tamil movie with artificiality written all over it, appealing to a particular section of the society who are more brand conscious than others..
Its the market that dominates more. If a tamil movie is released, it doesnt even go to Karnataka for release but when a hindi movie is released, leave alone India, its being released in our neighbouring states, a huge stack in the western countries. Obviously its the Madras talkies who are producing .. arent they :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
i was not talking abt the market dynamics and why mani went to hindi - i meant the level of objective filmmaking and visual story telling that mani gives will be missed.......i dont see any young director in tamil who strives to follow mani's approach to filmmaking :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Aalavanthan
no - i just wished for more films on madurai.......Quote:
edhukku madurai mela indha kolai veri. the oldest city in south india and one of the oldest cities of the world. It is widely considered as cultural capital for tamilnadu and it played very vital role in the development of Tamil.
True.. But I was talking about the marketing here :)
He still maintains his record for not shooting outside India. Raavana I think is going to be a visual treat and the way you want it. We still have no idea about the story, yet we believe
Bollywood myth will be broken soon.
Maniratnam is a Tamil director.
Regarding visual story telling - I think Bala and selva both are awesome in this aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
7G rainbow colony - I found the total movie to be boring and irritating..but the image in the climax where kadhir runs with the mat and pillow on which the dead body of anitha was placed - :clap:
In pithamagan Vikram looking at the skull of surya in the grave yard and sithan(who was accustomed to it) being unable to watch it- visually conveyed a lot.
The climax scene of Sethu where vikram gets ready to get inti the van and turns back ... there are lots of scenes.
regarding "objective film making" - ennanu purila.I take it as not being subjective in story telling or charecterization - as charu asks to velu nayakkar "naan pandradhu ungalukku thappunnu padudhilla..neenga pandradhu oorukke thappa padudheppa"
[GM : "ungalukkellam 50 vayasukku apram edhukuda vela..kammunaati pasangala....adhaan panam kudukurangalla vangitu poga vendiyadhuthana"]
I think selva was extraordinary in that aspect - especially in pudhupettai....dhanush hugging the villain and crying after killing the him...:clap:
infact its better that wannabe maniratnams are not there in TN - it may result in many gowtham menons...
I dont think there is any such myth - I think he is still considered as a Tamil director working in Bollywood.Quote:
Originally Posted by NOV
Maddy,
How about a poll on Mani Sir's best film and album?
i meant, Maniratnam moves a story with visuals and minimal dialogues........u can hardly pick a scene in maniratnams' movie, where accident takes place and there is a dialogue "accident aaiduchhu" ......obviously we have seen the accident and we dont need someone to say that again.......emotions are more powerful than dialogues is the general theme of his movies........but watever dialogues come out, they are blistering - naa adichha sethhuduva, surya sir orasadhinga etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
reg objectivity, maniratnam is very clear that he is just a filmmaker and is not here to judge someone or prove anything......how tough it is to make a dual-hero subject like agni natchithram and be non-judgemental abt the characters
now see, if Bala and selva can match mani in this.........to be fair, i havent seen bala, selva movies more than once.......i remember reading a stunning piece written by Equanimus in his blog where he compares how maniratnam takes only 30 mins to establish ruthlessness of inba in AE whereas Selva takes 3 hrs for that in PP(or something close to that)......reminds me of "chinna pasanga" dialogue in VV
great idea 8-) .....but i dread if thalapathi, nayagan lead Anjali, AN, Ayidha ezhuthu and Uyire in best albums poll :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Bala (Karthik)
lets start with best film - Naygan, Uyire, Alaipauthey for me 8-)
adhathaan naanunjoneen..effectively conveying things visually...the scenes that I have mentioned conveys a lot using the visuals...Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Thats what I have also mentioned I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Regarding how effectively mani eshtablished the brutality of Inba in 30 minutes and it took a full movie for selva to eshtablish..I think the comparison itself is sort of absurd...
:roll:
further,Inba somehow looked like a guy who takes chaaya at coffee day honestly...MADDY was good..but again it was like listening to a pettai rowdy who passed his course in "pettai rowdism" at oxford with honours...
well..It may be due to image of maddy created in our minds by his movies prior to AE..
FILM
Nayagan,Iruvar,Mouna ragam.
Music
Thalapathy,Uyire,Mouna Raagam...kashtam..ella padamum musically :notworthy:
maddy :clap: you have clearly put it......Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
wonder how Ravana/Ashokavanam has shaped up......
and to add one more thing.....maniratnam movies have BGM where and when needed....it is not there through out the whole movie unnecessarily....
take examples of Mouna Ragam and Anjali....BGM follows the visual treat....mostly...
well, likely so bcause a coffee day guy doesent talk abt k*su of jail inmates u see(madhavan's intro scene) :lol: .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
i have lot of reservations on PP - it was extremely slow and predictable......
I still don't understand why was Maddy given a role of rowdy in AE. It could have been given to some other genuine good actor in villain portrayal...
couldn't digest myself seeing maddy in rough and tough role....and that too bald, he could easily done the role as Michael....it would have been great....
anyways padam flop-pu.....whats the use talking now...
MR hasn't forgotten his Tamil roots...so whatever movie he gives in Hindi, simultaneously there will be a movie in TamilQuote:
Originally Posted by NOV
ajith would have been perfect in that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by leosimha
nalla vela, Ajith career thappichadhu :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
why? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
:shock: Kannathil Muthamitaal :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
Mouna Raagam should be there as well.. Its a normal story and I remember seeing a scene when Mohan visits Revathi... seri idhugappuram thaan padam paathutomaennu I wanted to change the channel, but couldnt . Movie is soo involving that you dont tend to leave it half handed
AE one of my favourites. for Maddy and Surya .. Surya was again ausum.. I think first ever movie without a musch. saga hubbergal will correct me if not.
PS: Nayagan the best ever for the same reasons for Mounaa. but with a huge difference in the name of "screenplay" and "Kamal"
why? is it because a thala fan spoke this. anyways I don't want to see ajith either in that role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
I didn't like that role in itself. :(
I think Ajith did a "Inba" kind of getup in the form of "Red" and we all know the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivasaayi
"சொல்றதையே வித்யாசமா சொல்றது பாலசந்தர் ஸ்டைல். சொல்றத சொல்லாம சொல்றது மணி சார் ஸ்டைல்!" - Maddy in an interview after PaarthAlE Paravasam.
Anyways favorite movies diskassan needs to happen - Iruvar, Agni Nathchathiram and Kannathil MuthamittAl-Mouna RAgam tie.
ohh yes Iruvar should definitely be given a pat in the back. BUT, I would have wanted to see more of dialogues rather than the BGM from ARR. I wish if this movie was taken after Kalaignar's "period", I guess pre-censors of the movie would have been less with more of meaningful dialogues !
paavam Mani sir, he had to show the full print to both the parties just to know that more of his dialogues are going to be cut before even the movie was sent to censors :cry:
Best Film:
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Nayagan
Kannathil Muthamittal
Best Album:
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Anjali
Idhaya Kovil
Agni Natchathiram
The best example is not inba for minimalism. The best example of how compressed, yet poignant mani can get is the Sharanya - Kamal love track in Nayagan. It expands on the cute 30 min love track of Karthik and Revathy in mouna raagam and brings a lot more poignancy and 'character' into picture. Very little, but meaningful dialogues (Thanks to Balakumaran). and no unnecessary 'explanation', 'exposition' of love between two people who have no law to walk by or follow. The instant 'kalyanam' was a shocker to me when i first saw it - after the 3rd or fourth viweing, it was very natural and the only way it could have happened when you have a character like Velu in play. The same notions, motives apply to Inba too. The character arc developments are very subtle, unlike Bala whose sole aim is to sensationalise - not just shock. Mani has a restraint (thanks to his target audience) while Bala has none. However their underlying sympathies are for the characters 'forsaken' or outside the mainstream - That is why you have Mani's protoganists being the odd ones out too in most cases..Quote:
Originally Posted by leosimha
Be it Divya the uncompromising young girl who always struggles to fit into normal stereotype
Be it Velu who always has broken stereotype of a dada, tamil youngster in alien mumbai
Be it Anjali who is the odd one out in an apartment community
Be it Thalabadhi or AE or AlaiPAyudhe or Bombay where the protagonists never take the easy way of 'abiding elders diktats', and other norms that we generally expect from hero figures'.
No wonder he has taken the fascination for 'Raavan' the best antihero indian literature has ever witnessed. My only fear is for the Rams and sitas who run the risk of ending up as caricatures in the glowing tribute to the 'odd guy' out in the crowd.
:clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Films
Mouna Ragam
Nayagan
Thalapathi
Iruvar
Albums
Thalapathi
Agni Natchathiram
Anjali
Mouna Ragam
Dil Se/Uyire
Thiruda Thiruda
why the gap in nominations? :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
generation gap :P