thiruvasakam in symphony

Thank you Mr. 'app-engine' and all those who had contributed on my comments.

Please don't get me wrong... I have taken exactly the same stand as you have mentioned..."pOttE, sAram illA" long back and that's one of my reasons for not saying anything adverse. But, when I saw this appeal for 'pre-orders', I just wanted to throw a word of caution. That's all.

Otherwise, I am personally pleased to have associated with this great project and my respect for that musical genius remains the same, but as a person....????"pOttE sAram illA"!!

Wow, Its amazing how quickly people pass judgements and change opinions based on some information which is not even validated. This is the price a celebrity artist pays i guess. People start questioning their integrity without knowing the complete facts.
Kiru, IR does not need a Integrity certificate from you or any others for that matter. AS App Engine said i would worry about someones integrity only if i need to work with them in a business relationship.He delivered an outstanding product for the people to enjoy and that is what matters.Did he deliver a third rate product and waste the public's money? No. He fully lived upto to the trust people had in him. There may have been issues with the way the business part of it was carried out , but that is for the involved parties to sort out. Nobody knows where the exact blame lies. Maybe it was not the way a project like this should have been handled. So try to bother about IR's integrity when you do business with him on a personal level, till then your opinion has no basis. IR has no need to cheat anyone to earn money. He has already composed and released non film music albums on his own. People are speaking as if he wanted to make some illegal money out of this project. The fact is none knows the complete truth so the best thing would be to let the parties sort this out and not try and form opinions on somebody's integrity based on this. We will never know the complete truth since this a private business matter between IR and the other party.
Mr TISK, I have also lost respect for you, based on the way you seem to cast doubts on IR's character at every given opportunity. By the way just as you wanted to throw a word of caution to people for the pre orders request from IR, i would also throw a word of caution to people on trying to do business with the other parties who were involved with Thiruvasakam project.

No person is perfect in life so lets remember that before we start judging others and start talking about Integrity

THANK YOU FOR LOSING RESPECT FOR ME AND THANK GOD FOR YOU BEING NOT IN MY SHOES!

BTW, for those who are still interested, we have slowly taken care of 70% of the loans!

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BTW, for those who are still interested, we have slowly taken care of 70% of the loans!

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Thats some progress.
May you repay all your loans.

However one small thought.
Did it ever occur to you that TamilMM gave you the shrt end of the rope or stick(or whatever)?

Also , why did you enter the project, is it because Tamil MM asked you or is it IR who asked you personally to enter into the project?

Just curious for info.

One heartening info...

Any effort lke TiS is not like a normal music CD or a movie music. It grows on people and it earns revenue as years go by(very much like how fans buy and rebuy albums like Nothing But Wind or How to Name it). So for such an album like TiS, the initial sales has been more or less like movie album in India atleast. That itself is something spectacular. As far as US market is concerned, slowly as web sites and other iPod pirates run out of memory, they will unload TiS from their ipods and mp3 players and there will be a renewed demand for TiS. So hold on....
This is all I can say for now.
I will explore any options of pushing TiS in USA from wherever i am to whatever level I can.

Hi,


I would like to object to whatever has been said in ww.raaja.com. This is nt my own feelings but this has been shared by lot of us who have been HURT. i have taken a cue from blogs...

1. The company to which the audio rights were sold was a startup company and it had no marketing network.

2. Many places in canada and uk did not get the cds for months. Shd people wait for the same. Still in Oman the cd is not available.

3. Even in chennai, there was a shortage for cds. In places like Kezkattalai and Madipakkam when people went to buy the cds, there were told that it was sold out.

4.The worst was the audio cass came out after a month. In places like tirunelveli and madurai, cass are main.No one cared for this

5. Special Edition was to be released but they released it after a month. Those who already bought the audio cd had to buy it again.

To sell something is extremely difficult. even if u have to sell tooth powder, you have to market it well.

This was a golden oppurtunity lost. Please dont blame the fans



Kamesh B

Innumma ..... Inga vivaatham nadanthuttu irukku :shock:
TISK has settled 70% of loans thats a good news :)
Namma Thalai Raaja Adutha project pathi yosikka aarambichitaaru...Thats the greatest news to me :D
Adutha project layavathu entha controversylayum sikkama varattum :roll:
IR mela respect izhanthu avar padalgala inimae ketkaame iruka poravangalukku anuthaabangal :wink:
Nammalum nashtapadama Adutha projectkku preorders collect panna poravangalukku [ennaiyum serthu than] Vaazhthukkal :oops:

Kamesh, point taken.. But the question is, why blame IR if the marketing failed. We all know that "Sales and Marketing" is not IR's forte. Or, for that matter even PR.. :-)

As humans, we all feel like trying something new/different every time, and if it fails we try something else. I think IR did the same. When he releases his next big album, may be he'll go to Sony/HMV et al.. But does it guarantee success??? Only time can tell. But, please, lets not flame the person who has given us so much joy with his music.

"Kamesh, point taken.. But the question is, why blame IR if the marketing failed"

Kamesh is not blaming IR. He was responding to IR's initial post in raaja.com which pointed a finger at some of the fans for the lack of high sales, when the biggest reason for lack of high sales figures laid with Welgate/other parties. Of course, IR later toned down his initial message and released another version of it.

""Sales and Marketing" is not IR's forte"....not always true Sudhakar...avar thannai nandRAga market paNNAmal ivvaLavu nAL field'il irundhirukka mudiyAdhu (despite his extraordinary talents)...

May be he lost those skills / focus today (or probably his mktg skills are getting obsolete in today's market)...but that was not always the case...

App_engine,

I care nothing other than his music and also may not be qualified to comment abt him, but in my opinion and the limited interactions I have had with him, I believe that PR and Biz acumen is not IR's Forte.. The music genius has many other talents ( vocal , humor , Lyrics , writing and Philosophy ). I guess he could have scaled much more heights/commercial success if he knew how to better market/time/position/associate his creations..

The man is so spontaneous with his words/deeds ( just like his music )and that gets him into trouble some times.. The recent letter is one such example i guess.

You can see many examples today both in arts and business where they have scaled /scored much more commercial success and fame than IR did/would.

BUt anyway each person is different that's what makes this world so beautiful.. and I appreciate and take what is best in each person and ignore things i do not like /agree.. THat is why i do not get upset about any mediocre songs in his albums or comments about his biz skills/ethics..

Anyway, just my humble opinion..

Cheers
MSK