I meant..
You can see many examples today both in arts and business where they have scaled /scored much more commercial success and fame than IR did/would bm,./with much less music competency but well complemented by their PR/biz skills.
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I meant..
You can see many examples today both in arts and business where they have scaled /scored much more commercial success and fame than IR did/would bm,./with much less music competency but well complemented by their PR/biz skills.
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Originally Posted by cry_sandiego
If he cannot sell it then he has to cooperate with people who are willing to sell it. None of us know the real picture as to what has happened behind the scenes with respect to TIO sale but the sad point is blaming the ordinary fan in the street who put his hard earned money and bought it and finally was told u pirated the cd.
What hurt more is it appeared in a website in public and none of the persons associated with that website supported us. Then a message did appear which said he did not mean it to all of his fans. That was an eyewash..People should accept reality and say yes we did this mistake and from the next time it will not happen.
IR is a musical genius..his music is beyond words...There everything stops
I think once again people are emotionally responding to the IR message on raaja.com on both sides.
Before you can castigate IR for his message, the rational approach would be to gather data on a. How may illegal downloads or illegal copies of CDs/Tapes of TIS happened b. Were those downloads or copies by people who would have otherwise purchased TIS CD or tapes.
Without such data to back up, the retorts to IR's message are just emotional outbursts. A reasonable response could be to ask IR if he has the data to suggest that illegal downloads and illegal copies were made and their impact on sales of TIS audio. But to go more than that to accuse IR of anything else, rational people would need to have more data to castiagate IR.
kr,MSK,njv,rajasaranam,vijayr,kameshratnam,sudhaka rg,kiru and others...
Please amuse with some imaginations in the IR's new albums thread...
http://tfmpage.mayyam.com/hub/viewlite.php?t=1030
"Before you can castigate IR for his message, the rational approach would be to gather data on a. How may illegal downloads or illegal copies of CDs/Tapes of TIS happened b. Were those downloads or copies by people who would have otherwise purchased TIS CD or tapes.
Without such data to back up, the retorts to IR's message are just emotional outbursts. "
the data should have been gathered by IR before he made the official accusation and he should have published it along with his original letter. IR is the accuser here. That was the rational thing to do on his part. why should the fans do it?They have better things to do in life. In this case, its IR who made the emotional outburst without any data to back up. And he had to regret it and come out with a "softer" version of the original letter. My guess is he just wrote a letter based on some hearsay. Its tough to find out how much sales was affected by overall piracy, leave alone unintentional piracy by a few fans.
"A reasonable response could be to ask IR if he has the data to suggest that illegal downloads and illegal copies were made and their impact on sales of TIS audio. "
You probably missed this part of the message in your usual urgency to attack anone who wants to defend IR.
"But to go more than that to accuse IR of anything else, rational people would need to have more data to castiagate IR."
This was my point. And I was posting it for people who want to be rational about this.
"You probably missed this part of the message in your usual urgency to attack anone who wants to defend IR. "
I didnt miss that. My point is why should anyone go and even ask him? They have better things to do in life. If he is the official accuser the burden of proof is with him. Anyways communication is essentially a one-way street with that oficial site of his.Even after many fans expressed their thoughts on this letter he still didnt come out with the figures in his second message. what does that tell you?
"But to go more than that to accuse IR of anything else, rational people would need to have more data to castiagate IR"
People are being pretty rational and patient about it. Even after such a letter from IR there are many who replied saying that they would support the next project. what more do you expect?
In your usual urgency to defend IR, you have put down fans like Kamesh who were actually a big part of making TIS reach as many people as it has.
"But to go more than that to accuse IR of anything else"
what has IR been accused of here anyways? No one has accused him of anything. Its a fact that he didnt discern betweens fans who did and did'nt do piracy and so he released a "revised" second letter
Its also a fact that he is yet to present any proof even after several ppl expressed their unhappiness and the fact that they worked hard for the project.
If anything its IR who has been accusing his fans in his official site, not the other way around.
I think we all need to accept that Media piracy has become a part of our life, and for "creator" like IR, I'm sure this must be one of those sensitive issues. As a teenager, I've myself got "selected songs" recorded in my personal cassette from Music stores in Chennai in the 80s. The general awareness that people have to buy originals was just not there. then.., and believe me it is still not there. Even now, I hear from a lot of people that they saw some latest movie (still in theatres) through pirated VCDs/DVDs etc. And these are some well educated people.
To narrate a small story here.. I was very eager to get TiS CD here in UK, and the local stores did not have it. Fortunately, I had a colleague who was travelling from India during that time & he brought along the original CD with him. I thanked him profusely. After one listening, I asked him politely if he would like to have the CD for a listening. He said, "naan ennOda computer'le munnAdiyE copy paNNikittEn Sudhakar". For a second I was shocked.. But then, I realized that there is in general very little awareness on Copyright/piracy etc within our folks. And given the ease with which media can be reproduced, it will be a while before laws can be designed to prevent this. Until then, creators/artists like IR have to live with that sense of helplessness.