Violence against women

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Originally Posted by nirosha sen

Somehow this kind of violence is worst in Muslim societies around the world. Particularly, Pakistan, Bangladesh and all those Arab countries, Pa!!

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Um...not really all Arab countries.....Saudi Arabia I've heard is a relatively safe place for women.....altho of course they don't hav total freedom in sum aspects (eg. having to wear burka in public, forbidden to drive cars), they r known to hav far better security & safety there comp'd to women who hav more freedom in most other countries.....I believe the punishment for rape/molestation in Saudi is straightaway death sentence and a guy can get arrested if he gives more than a momentary glance to a woman passing by.....!
On the other hand, there r sum Arab countries tat aren't tat safe 4 women even tho they may seem so.....for eg. Dubai, which is known to be a highly cosmopolitan /advanced Arab nation......most of u mite know tat there were many Indian girls/women who were sold into prostitution over there (and then taken to other countries) in the last 2 decades until our Govt. finally woke up & put a stop to it..... :evil:

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Originally Posted by nirosha sen

Circumcision is certainly that you know!! Nothing but mutilation, be it for men or women!!Sigh.....

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Again, as Roshan said, this practice is non-existant in most muslim countries, even in hardcore Islamic ones like Saudi......but yes I'm aware tat it still exists in Sudan and even Egypt (where I rem. they'd petitioned to ban the practice in 1997 but itwas declined! :evil: )

Roshan,it was just a typing mistake and what I meant was very orthdox muslim societies in the world.I didn't mean to call thw whole Muslim society orthodox or refer to them in general.No hard feelings please.

Male circumcision is actually being encouraged by doctors for better maintenance of hygiene. But the barbaric African practice of mutilating female genitals need to be condemned in the strongest terms. I remember reading a detailed article about the practice in Readers’Digest long ago. It was a blood curdling article with all minute details of the cruel procedure described in uninhibited frankness. The famous African model who found asylum in England, herself a victim is the loud exponent of this atrocious anti-human barbarity.

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Originally Posted by nirosha sen

Somehow this kind of violence is worst in Muslim societies around the world. Particularly, Pakistan, Bangladesh and all those Arab countries, Pa!! What a curse it is to be born a woman in these places!!

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Nirosha, I thought you were a mature individual. Please avoid making such sweaping statements. Please try to analyse the facts properly before giving opinions and please remember the fact that Pakistan and Bangaladesh have elected women as their country leaders in the past and present.

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Originally Posted by blahblah

Roshan,it was just a typing mistake and what I meant was very orthdox muslim societies in the world.I didn't mean to call thw whole Muslim society orthodox or refer to them in general.No hard feelings please.

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No hard feelings at all. I'm not that sensitive as regards religion :) So nothing to worry. I was just trying to point out the fact that - female circumcision has nothing to do with the religion. Besides I very well know that you are one of those who have a broard mind and understanding on such sensitive issues. I have always admired your unbiased views even when it comes to your own religion. I really appreciate that. So no hard feelings at all. :D

Cheers !! :D

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Originally Posted by lordstanher

On the other hand, there r sum Arab countries tat aren't tat safe 4 women even tho they may seem so.....for eg. Dubai, which is known to be a highly cosmopolitan /advanced Arab nation......most of u mite know tat there were many Indian girls/women who were sold into prostitution over there (and then taken to other countries) in the last 2 decades until our Govt. finally woke up & put a stop to it..... :evil:

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lordstanher,

I agree but on the other hand UAE is a libaralized Muslim country where women can just move around without any controls and restrictions. Unlike Saudi Arabia, women can wear whatever clothes they like as long as it's decent. Besides the government has implemented several plans for women's education and the number of local women seeking employment is also increasing.

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Originally Posted by pavalamani pragasam

Male circumcision is actually being encouraged by doctors for better maintenance of hygiene.

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Yes true !!! I remember a detail answer given by writer Sujatha in his book 'yEn yethaRkku yeppadi" on male circumcision. In that he had said, that usually in the US, doctors tend to encourage circumcision when a male child is born (no matter what religion the child belongs to).

Woh!! Roshan???? What's bringing abt this tirade??? Female circumcision is indeed happening in the world, Pa!! And yes, it is only Muslim society that does it although in differing degrees. Some countries do them as total mutilation while others say it's merely a minute slice of the labia!!

I live in a Muslim country Pa!! This was a topic I had a chat with Muslim lady-friends and they said that it was indeed encouraged in their religion but not necessarily after reaching puberty!

Perhaps, they do not choose to talk abt it, primarily because it is a religious issue. The only reason it's been brought to notoriety is because of the publicity that the West has given it and the numerous testimonials that victims themselves have given.

More on Mukhtar Mai's sad tale of horror : Today's papers gives a detailed account on how she was dragged out of a Council meet which had summoned her father and 13 yr old brother.

Mai is from the Gujar clan while her assailants are from the Mastoi clan. Apparently, her 13 yr old brother was allegedly sexually molested by the Mastoi men. So in order to cover up their crime, they cooked up a story abt her brother having had relations with a Mastoi woman!

They had set up a council meet and had tried to drag out her little brother there which was protested by her father, and were both hauled up before the council. In accompanying them there, the defenseless woman was suddenly pounced on by one of the Mastoi men, and dragged away kicking and screaming into one of the houses. The rest of the onlookers merely laughed except for the helpless raving and rantings of her weeping father.......

Despite the recent verdict, Mai continues to appeal for justice! :cry:

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Originally Posted by nirosha sen

I live in a Muslim country Pa!! This was a topic I had a chat with Muslim lady-friends and they said that it was indeed encouraged in their religion but not necessarily after reaching puberty!

Perhaps, they do not choose to talk abt it, primarily because it is a religious issue. The only reason it's been brought to notoriety is because of the publicity that the West has given it and the numerous testimonials that victims themselves have given.

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Please try to understand that just because your friends say - it doesnt mean that it is said in the religion. May be your friends too are un aware or ignorant of such issues. I reiterate that female circumcision is NOT encouraged by the relgion. It's just another form of false belief and practice in the name of religion. For that matter no religion can be excluded of such beliefs and superstitions. If you go to question them they at once would attribute it to their religion or religious custom coz that's the easiest way of getting away with it. Like the 'thaali' issue of that 9 year old kid I mentioned before.

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