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:lol: that would be the day!Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
but correctaa thaan solraaru rgv avarkal, 'with the biggest budgets they have, they make avatar and inception, and with the biggest budgets we have, we make blue and kambakht ishq" :D
appram 'we all third world, third class directors'-nellaam solraaru :oops:
Oh.. Appo budget irundha avaru Avatar and Inception maadhiri padam eduthu kizhichiduvaarama? Before pointing the fingers on Blue and KI, he better shud look at his own Aag and Agyaat.
I do not claim to tell a story as it ought to be told. I only claim to know how a story ought to be told - Mark Tuwain.
:yes: :lol: ...VAI MATTUM ILLENA IVANE ELLAM NAAYI KAVITTU POIDUMQuote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
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Originally Posted by P_R
The leap of faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by equanimus
Why can't you respect something you create? Why does the certainty of that seem less valuable than the uncertainties of 'reality'. In a world where one can can theoretically grant oneself immortality, where one can detail and tailor it to one's fine-ness (and not even Truman show like in being the hands of another, where the relationships are with straw men).
Does it come from one's lack of faith in one's abilities to play God well enough? What is it that we want if we don't the ability to get whatever we want?
Why does reality - a miserable, cruel place, where one is subject to chance - hold such a sway over us be picked again and again?
Cobb thinks Mal is wrong. Does he know for certain that what he believes to be reality is reality? Perhaps the objective observer, like you and me, yes. But to Cobb ? Even an infinitesemal probability that he may be wrong is sufficient to destabilize someone in such a position. It is impossible to imagine that he is "certain" that what he is going back to, the basis on which he is making the decisions, is the reality.
Someone like him cannot be certain. He will have to force certainty on himself. Through logic, through bulwarks like his children and what note. In essence his choice is unlikely to be as simple as a choice between one reality and the next. It is a choice between one belief and another.
He HAS to force himself to believe one. And he doesn't have to explain his choice to anyone.
Did the spinning top in the last frame (assuming it was on permaspin and wasn't going to die a moment after the frame closed) say that a cruel trick was pulled on him ? No, isn't it ?
At that level, by whatever logic he was driven, that was still a consistent decision to make.
Perhaps we will always have to make choices within our levels. Block out certain things and build our own realities. Believe in them wholeheartedly. We may still be wrong, but there is little we can do about it.
And so on....are the musings this film propels me on to.
P_R,
"anxiety to be understood manifesting in a dialogue that the film could have done without"
Okay. I get that.
Still, they are all crowd pleasing blarneys to attract certain age-group - all three scenes got its applause after closing phrase "Paradox" or "it's worth trying" or "Dream big", etc..
Well, Pegasus is just a word with its own history, saw it being prominently displayed in posters and for a brief moment in the film. Thought it could be some code. I guess not..
1. The first 2-3 minutes when Leo(Cobb) was escorted by the Japanese soldiers to a very aged Saito(Watanabe) is the "Inception planting" dream to plant an idea on Fischer (Cilian Murphy). Nolan may have kept scene out of order to give an idea of limbo and why one can age so quickly in limbo state.
2. The dream when Leo, JG Levitt and Saito (when they look young) immediately after the above is the start of the (movie)story. Leo, Arthur and Nass(??) try to steal some information from Saito for Cobalt Engg, but unfortunately he was trained for this sort of a mind heist and it fails.
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Originally Posted by Nerd
Thanks Feddy. I understood 1), but don't know how Saito managed to trick him as in 'You were only auditioning for me' to Cobb :? I have to admit that I was a little lethargic when the film started and I started concentrating only after Ellen's entry. But this was one of the very very rare occasions in which I did not look at my watch in a cinema hall and the film was about 2 hours and 30 mins long. Thoroughly arresting :bow:
The dream, before Cobb retrieves the confidential info to the 'reality', collapses. This is a failure in itself. Apart from Saito's training, poor architecture designed by the then architect (Ariadne's predecessor) accounts for the failure. I dont remember if Saito had bought out that architect before the audition. This is why Saito praises Cobb for living upto his reputation but warns him to select a better team for the 'inception'.
I Didn't understand few scenes,will read all the posts here and will watch the movie again..but the execution is awesome,mind-bending experience... Nolan :bow: :bow: