Sharing-IR's music-interviews-BgmClips- in web

I added the following comment there...

Can we term it as a Thaalamaalika ala Raaga maalika. Also it sounds to me a marriage of diverse rhythmic schools - fusion at the level of rhythm - not just at harmony alone. the picturisation that we got to see finally had that element of jerk, jolt , then harmonious joining of a family doing a ring around the rosie with the centre piece being couple holding hands and going around and finally stumbling and jerking their way into reality. I find the song, the melody and rhythm shifts and beat cycle joinings reflecting the context aptly. Truly the hall marks of a genius on his day at the office.. and you too have proven your diligence with this wonderful post .. yet again....

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there is another absolutely mind-blowing track in SATHYA (kamal, amala) that never made it to the screen - "ingeyum angeyum" - which has all the trademark unorthodox tala structures, twists and turns - special components include a piano motif and a stunning second interlude - in terms of evolution of motifs within a composition, that is under 5 minutes long, this piece is matchless in creativity!

somehow IMHO, IR always reserves such completely unorthodox styled scores for Kamal!

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Any link to this song?

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http://www.thiraipaadal.com/albums/ALBIRR00584.html

:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

Ingeyum is indeed a v.good song. Thanks irir. And valaiyosai was sung by Latha Manageshar or Asha Bonsley? Thirappadal.com says it is LM :confused2:

I am following Bala today and seconding what he says :D My thanks to irir as well. Lovely song.

ingeyum engeyum was also by Lata Mangeshkar. Even Vazha Osai was sung by her (her 1st song for IR).

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:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

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It is my assumption that Kamal must have shelved the picturisation of this song keeping in mind the length of the film, or, perhaps the commercial appeal for the same, given that the album already had a whopping number 'valai osai' the like of which had not been composed earlier and has not been bettered by the master himself!

if this is the case with someone like Kamal who despite his daring to venture into unchartered areas still had to shelve such an unorthodox composition, it is mind-boggling when I think of how many countless such musical ideas/themes IR must have sacrificed for lesser more stereotyped directors insisting on formulaic songs/compositions from IR, when IR must have had better ideas!

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:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

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It is my assumption that Kamal must have shelved the picturisation of this song keeping in mind the length of the film, or, perhaps the commercial appeal for the same, given that the album already had a whopping number 'valai osai' the like of which had not been composed earlier and has not been bettered by the master himself!

if this is the case with someone like Kamal who despite his daring to venture into unchartered areas still had to shelve such an unorthodox composition, it is mind-boggling when I think of how many countless such musical ideas/themes IR must have sacrificed for lesser more stereotyped directors insisting on formulaic songs/compositions from IR, when IR must have had better ideas!

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I think Kamal has the musical sense to describe the situation in a way that makes sense to Raaja. Ofcourse - If Kamal simply stops saying hero heroine 'seeing' song or something like that, Raaja would have still have given him a gem, but Kamal sells his visualization idea to Raaja like a script writer pitcher his idea to a star actor. I just wonder what he must have explained the 'Unnai naanariven' for Guna - the whole mise en scene (thanks to zero) of it all for Raja to come up with that collage of andhra folk, to hindustani to carnatic tour of the whole area. Now that is an awesome experiment in 'sound scaping' - not what we hear in recent albums thanks to digital technology.

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:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

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It is my assumption that Kamal must have shelved the picturisation of this song keeping in mind the length of the film, or, perhaps the commercial appeal for the same, given that the album already had a whopping number 'valai osai' the like of which had not been composed earlier and has not been bettered by the master himself!

if this is the case with someone like Kamal who despite his daring to venture into unchartered areas still had to shelve such an unorthodox composition, it is mind-boggling when I think of how many countless such musical ideas/themes IR must have sacrificed for lesser more stereotyped directors insisting on formulaic songs/compositions from IR, when IR must have had better ideas!

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The lead guitar bit - portions of it was used (or imporvised upon) in Nothing But Wind.
the waltz in the first interlude was again improvised and used in 'Vetri vizha' Vaanamenna keezhirukku - whose rhythms were also a composite pattern incidentally. The symphonic(with due apologies to Madhan) twirls in the ludes - I hope would have been used in a movie and as usual we all would have missed it.

A very nice reason to revisit Satya and find out what is the relevant situation.

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:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

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It is my assumption that Kamal must have shelved the picturisation of this song keeping in mind the length of the film, or, perhaps the commercial appeal for the same, given that the album already had a whopping number 'valai osai' the like of which had not been composed earlier and has not been bettered by the master himself!

if this is the case with someone like Kamal who despite his daring to venture into unchartered areas still had to shelve such an unorthodox composition, it is mind-boggling when I think of how many countless such musical ideas/themes IR must have sacrificed for lesser more stereotyped directors insisting on formulaic songs/compositions from IR, when IR must have had better ideas!

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The lead guitar bit - portions of it was used (or imporvised upon) in Nothing But Wind.
the waltz in the first interlude was again improvised and used in 'Vetri vizha' Vaanamenna keezhirukku - whose rhythms were also a composite pattern incidentally. The symphonic(with due apologies to Madhan) twirls in the ludes - I hope would have been used in a movie and as usual we all would have missed it.

A very nice reason to revisit Satya and find out what is the relevant situation.

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"satya" and "agni natchatiram" were both released Tamil new years day, 1988! between the two, AN was a chartbuster, while in the BGM dept, 'satya' was heads and shoulders over AN - the use of the percussion based on the sound of the (chennai suburuban) rail running on tracks had an amazing impact!

when kamal tries to persuade amala who is inside her house and kamal outside, a brilliant violin piece and then again, when they both reconcile on the beach, a romantic smooth jazz piece!

all this from memory, its been more than a decade since I last saw 'sathya' !

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:ty: Irir for introducing this song. What a miss :oops:

Fantastic composition indeed :notworthy:

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It is my assumption that Kamal must have shelved the picturisation of this song keeping in mind the length of the film, or, perhaps the commercial appeal for the same, given that the album already had a whopping number 'valai osai' the like of which had not been composed earlier and has not been bettered by the master himself!

if this is the case with someone like Kamal who despite his daring to venture into unchartered areas still had to shelve such an unorthodox composition, it is mind-boggling when I think of how many countless such musical ideas/themes IR must have sacrificed for lesser more stereotyped directors insisting on formulaic songs/compositions from IR, when IR must have had better ideas!

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The lead guitar bit - portions of it was used (or imporvised upon) in Nothing But Wind.
the waltz in the first interlude was again improvised and used in 'Vetri vizha' Vaanamenna keezhirukku - whose rhythms were also a composite pattern incidentally. The symphonic(with due apologies to Madhan) twirls in the ludes - I hope would have been used in a movie and as usual we all would have missed it.

A very nice reason to revisit Satya and find out what is the relevant situation.

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"satya" and "agni natchatiram" were both released Tamil new years day, 1988! between the two, AN was a chartbuster, while in the BGM dept, 'satya' was heads and shoulders over AN - the use of the percussion based on the sound of the (chennai suburuban) rail running on tracks had an amazing impact!

when kamal tries to persuade amala who is inside her house and kamal outside, a brilliant violin piece and then again, when they both reconcile on the beach, a romantic smooth jazz piece!

all this from memory, its been more than a decade since I last saw 'sathya' !

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The pulsating 'umbrella ' scene and the climax where the 'chase' happens with bus and footboard in the key moment + the final electrocution and that smile on Kamal's face at last and the music that follows - Classic stuff.

innum 4 kamal venumyaa nammaalukku.

I enjoyed the other not so listened song from Sathya.... (Nagaru Nagaru).

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I enjoyed the other not so listened song from Sathya.... (Nagaru Nagaru).

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It seems a well watched one though ;-)

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I enjoyed the other not so listened song from Sathya.... (Nagaru Nagaru).

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It seems a well watched one though ;-)

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that song is a well-made 'dhrishti suzhi' for the entire film!

Possibly the biggest commercial success with IR as MD:

http://radiospathy.blogspot.com/2010...g-post_18.html

INDEED! BEAUTIFUL photos!

:musicsmile: :clap:
Whenever we are lazy to run to the store & rent a dvd to watch...
we always pull out கரகாட்டக்காரன், சலங்கை ஓலி, மைகேல் மதன காமராஜன், ஆண் பாவம் from our own collection.
ZILLION times we have watched, VERY FOND OF IT!
Not to mention, my son used to love watching the songs...
:ty: Shri.Ilayaraaja & his men for all the respite those yrs. :)

vinatha. :)

Is there any good site where i can listen to Raja's Malayalam songs, if not all, atleast most of them?

Thanks in advance!

எனக்கு "அழகி" படத்திலிருந்து ஒரு காட்சியின் பிண்ணனி இசை கேட்கணும்னு ஆசை.

பார்த்திபனும் நந்திதா தாஸும் சண்முகம், தனலட்சுமியாக வரும் நேரம். தனலட்சுமிக்கு கல்யாணம் ஆகி, கையில் குழந்தை இருக்கும். ஊரில் இருக்கும் அம்மன் கோயிலுக்கு சாமி கும்பிட இருவரும் வர அங்கு எதிர்பாராத விதமாக சந்தித்து கொள்வார்கள். சும்மா ஒரு பிண்ணனி இசையை அமைத்து நகராமல், அதற்கு ஒரு சின்னதாக சாமி பாட்டு அதுவும் நாட்டுப்புற இசையில் அமைத்திருப்பார். அசத்தலாக இருக்கும். அந்தக் காட்சி, இசை ரொம்ப காலமாக நெஞ்சில் நிழலாடுகிறது.

யாராச்சும் எனக்கு(எல்லோருக்கும் தான்!) உதவி செய்யுங்களேன்!

Arvind,

A couple of sites for Malayalam songs:

http://ilayaraja-mp3songs.blogspot.com/
http://www.punchapaadam.com

In both these sites you can download the songs. The first site does not require registration. The second site does.

You can also check out the Malayalam channel in http://www.raaga.com Search of Illayaraja under music directors. The number of films is not very high though.

Suresh - Thanks much :D

IGCinema.com has Sathya movie online!!!! this weekend watch...

jaiganes,
I watched it in theater when released :-(

I wrote earlier in the mysteriously disappeared thread "Appreciating decent picturisation of good songs" about my horrible experience.

We bachelors were watching olium oLiyum at Palakkad, thanks to the newly opened "Kodaikkanal antenna" and the fabulous vaLaiOsai made us rush to the theater without delay.

Kamal's team tortured us in this movie. I would recommend people to watch that song on youtube and that's about it :-)

app_engine,
Puriyala, picturization pidikkalaya?

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app_engine,
Puriyala, picturization pidikkalaya?

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It's the other way around, I liked ONLY vaLaiyOsai picturisation - one of the best ever in TF. The movie was not my cup of chAya:-)

Oh ok (teeplight me) :)

Vayya Burger(K)ing!
ippo dhaan vazhi therinjadha indha pakkam vara?
Remba feelingsla irundheenga pola irukku?

http://radiospathy.blogspot.com/2010/03/blog-post.html

There are some unusual movies in this blog that talks about IR-KBraj combo (few songs I've never heard before)...

LOVE YOU SO MUCH RAAJA! :redjump:
நீங்காத எண்ணம் ஒன்று நெஞ்சோடு உண்டு....
Always Raaja!
vinatha. :)

மேகம் மிதக்குது
ஆகாயம் மேலே பறக்குது..

அதுபோலவே நானும் பறக்கிறேன்... :musicsmile:

http://solvanam.com/?p=7087
has a clip from pANdavAs

http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajra...ruminations-1/

Couple of IR songs in a Baradwaj Rangan blog post.

Interesting to know that parts of 'Attukkutti muttai ittu' is based on senchurutti rAgam.

அழகாக தாலாட்டுகளுக்கு ஒரு ப்ளாகர் பட்டியல் போட்டிருக்கிறார் :

http://rajarasigan.blogspot.com/2010...ttu-songs.html

Another reference to IR's glorious 80s here! http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajra...l-film-review/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4hwE...layer_embedded

IR in Orchestra... Simply he presents......

Think of This IR............

The people are really lucky..........

Nice blog, with a few karoke songs sung sweetly by the blogger :
http://swarams.blogspot.com/

http://radiospathy.blogspot.com/2010...g-post_18.html

Sunandha songs :-)

kAdhal mayakkam is one of the best ever duets in TFM!

meaning of terrific

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGq4a...eature=related

While trying to get a link for a malayalam song (to post in the last song thread of TF forum), stumbled upon this goldmine :-)

Tons of IR Malayalam songs, lyrics, youtube links!

And many other directors as well - equivalent of thiraippAdal for Malayalam

app,

Thanks for the link. I was looking for something like this for a long time.

Great App,A lot of rare songs which were not available anywhere....I was looking out for My dear Kuttichathan Part 2 for long and here it is!!....