thiruvasakam in symphony

Ok - friends, I am posting my first response after I listened to TiS yesterday all alone in my room on an AIWA System - to start with, I will try giving a one sentence description: This album is an ABSOULTE BOMBSHELL ! in fact, it is a couple of hydrogen bombs packed together in a single CD timed to detonate each time it is played! after playing the entire CD, I involuntarily checked if nothing happened to my system, after that most complex music it has played in its lifetime!

I will follow this up with a deep set of observations, since I am incapable of reviewing this!

Dear ADMIN - Am sorry for the multiple postings - please delete the extra postings after retaining one

Expectation from official :

Thiruvasagam sales figure will be 10 lakhs after one year.

I will back with detailed review

Right now I am unable to express my feelings about the album,So don't want to start doing that now.Maybe after a couple of weeks&more listenings.

I bought a couple of CD's on Monday from Planet M,Jayanagar.I went in today afternoon to buy a couple more(for gifting)but they had run out of stock.The store manager was not there&the guy who was trying to help me out(What do they call them?)said he did not know exact figures, but they had received the stocks 3 times this week(All sold out).

I went to Music world a couple of blocks away, which had 5 CD's.I bought 2&asked the owner(who was manning the cash counter) about the sales.He said till now they have received 3 batches of 50 CD's each on the 4th,6th&7th respectively, of which only 5 are left(including the two I bought).Which means in 4 1/2 days they have sold 147 CD's.Assuming Planet M also received the same no,two major shops in Jayanagar have sold 297 CD's in 5 days,Amazing.

Just imagine the sales in more prominent outlets like Landmark at Forum Mall,Music world&Planet M on Brigade road.

In one of the shops in B'lore (music world/forum), a friend of mine had told me, that one person had ordered 1000 cds !

Cinefan,

Did you check with Calypso in Jayanagar, They have IR's poster all over the display area - may be the first time im seeing an indian face there ... !

I am extremely happy to know that sales of TIS CDs is very good - Once the cassettes are released, hopefully we can expect more ...

The album is excellent to say the least and it fully deseves this, no dobut, But I am yet to believe how this extraordinary sales happened :)

IR was supposed to be 'not-so-great' in terms of sales right ? And tamil people were never fond of buying any private albums in huge numbers (be it rap / pop/ devo or whatever) ... Now, how this happened ? Was it the magic of Thiruvaasagam ?

Let me stop my postmortem here, as some people may take it offensive, Sorry guys, its just a surprise I had, because I was thinking (till date) that only 'pakka' commercial things sell in such huge numbers, not dedicated efforts like this - What was the sales for HTNI and NBW in all these years ?

NagaS

YOu can not find out the sales for HTNI/NBW (for that matter Skanda shashti kavasam by Soolamangalam, Bhajagovindam by MSS). The are all "ever green" product. TIS is already on its way to be on that category. After 40 years, still Skanda shasti kavasam and Bhajagovindam are still "hot cakes" and I am sure TIS will be "hot cake" after 100 years as well.

One of my friend who listened to it (and who doesnt like any hype at all and wasnt sure if TIS will make him happy) told me that he is still in shock, for 1 reason, that his ego was washed away completely and for another reason, the shock that he (naturally) got from TIS. He didnt give me any feedback, he said its hard to "take in" TIS so he need atleast 2 days of rest before listening to TIS again.

As far as I goes, "lost in vanity"

hi all,
i just spoke to one of distibutor in chennai ESSEN MUSICAL , he just told me 1st set of 600 cds came and sold in 3 days time. but he told that they now reducing the stocks since the WELGATE company has reduced the margin and also asking the distibutors to pay cash immeditaely. normally in music field the distibutors will be given atleast 15 days credit period. can TIS group talk to the welgate group about this issue, if the distibutors failed to buy the cds in lot then the sales figure will be reduced drastically.

I think this is the first time, a non-film tamil album is selling like hot cakes. It is a great turn for tamil music not only for tamil music, indian music industry.

This is the first time, so many number of CDs are sold out (including film albums). Ennoda CD-yula kettavargal ellam athisayithargal. They also want to buy CDs.

DearShankar,
This is Dr. Sankarkumar from USA. I want you to do some more investigation on this 1000 Cd order and find who this person is and inform me as I have reliable reports that attempts are being made by some crooks to discretly ship to USa to undersell it to kill the market. Pl. help!
p.s. I will be posting this in the forum also to avoid multiple requests from me to all. Thanks.
Friends, if you also come across such information of mass buying, pl. verify with the store that it is an individual and not a rep. of a US based distributor. Then, they will undersell and reduce the value. Pl. help. Thanks.
YIA!!

yesterday, i had been to shanti tailors, mylapore to get a CD(too late isn't it!).....

he said he is running out of stocks...juz bcos Ilayaraaja's Italy Concernt CD was sold there, people throng the store for TbI CDs......ofcourse i was one among them :P

he said so far 25,000 CDs have been sold(not sure in Chennai alone!) in the last 1 week.....he was very excited to tell this news...

just when i came out of the shop and without my knowledge i turned right & looked at the Kabaleeswarar temple gopuram, the word 'ANBE SIVAM' conveyed it all!

Ellam Avan Seyal!!

Info from `Rajanna Raja dhAn thread':


From: NOV on Fri Jul 8 3:32:15 2005. [Full View]


Manisekaran wrote:
I am sorry. What is TIS.
Thiruvasagam In Symphony.
I am sure that Agilan has invited you to the launching of this masterpiece at NUPW Hall next Sunday, where guests include Kartik Raja and Bavadharani.
They will also be showing The Making of TIS.
Entrance is free.



From: Manisekaran on Fri Jul 8 10:14:01 2005. [Full View]


NOV,

Thank you so much. Akilan has been enthusaistically sendng me sms and emails. I am also notifying my friends to attend. I am hearing many good things about TIS from various sources. Raja still reigns. RAJANNA RAJAATHAAN!

Manisekaran

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DearShankar,
This is Dr. Sankarkumar from USA. I want you to do some more investigation on this 1000 Cd order and find who this person is and inform me as I have reliable reports that attempts are being made by some crooks to discretly ship to USa to undersell it to kill the market. Pl. help!
p.s. I will be posting this in the forum also to avoid multiple requests from me to all. Thanks.
Friends, if you also come across such information of mass buying, pl. verify with the store that it is an individual and not a rep. of a US based distributor. Then, they will undersell and reduce the value. Pl. help. Thanks.
YIA!!

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Few people who does in USA (excluding the ones that I already takl to and confirmed that they WILL NOT bring from india)

H&M
Maharani

TISK, I am telling you, requesting / begging is one thing we can always do, but get some paper work done and issue something like an official statement.

I will talk to one Mr Mohan, who worked on the legal formalities of TIS (you can contact Mr Ananth in NJ who knows Mohan very well) and see if he has any paper work.

also ask TIS-India to warn retailers who are selling TIS India to exporters / who are exporting directly or who are even encouraging exports to outside USA. Ask them to contact IMI (Indian Music Industry) and put a ban on exporting this item (Yes you can do it. You need to pay little money, but its worth it. You will get an IMI hologram that you need to stick in the India CD and anyone who carries them outside India )

Sorry to say this now, but this is where a reputed brand like Sony/Saregama would play a vital role. Lets hope that Maestro's next work is done either thru these folks or hope wellgate (is it the company name?) knows the tricks by then.

Thanks

TISK

Read your PM.

Thanks
NJV

I have done just that---requesting and begging--- for the last 20 months and look at where we are today!
"puRRil vaazh aravum anjEn!
poyyarkaL uRavum anjEn!"

yellaam iRaivan aruL!

One positive thought:
While piracy, smuggling, supply-not-meeting-demand are real concerns, these are indicators of success of the album among music lovers...(Just imagine if the concerns were `not-having-demand', `over-stocked' & `musically-not-good' etc.)

I am a volunteer of TIS Group. Should any one needs to get the CD in Bay Area for cash, you can contact me @ pathanmusic@yahoo.com or (650) 577 8473. I will be available in this line after 5:30 during weekdays. But you can leave a message.

thanks
padmakumar Nagarajan

http://www.vikatan.com/av/2005/jul/17072005/av0503.asp

Vikatan report of the release function (with a picture of Rajinikanth visiladichifying)

TISK

Can you please publish the volunteers and thier contact details in TIS-USA.com so that people who want to save some shipping can benefit from it.

Thanks
NJV

Our webmaster has been so swamped with other work with sending these CD's on time, he couldn't have time to upload it. We do have compiled a list and will do so asap. Sorry and thanks for reminding!

May I can provide a short list here but our WM will be mad at me for doing so as he prefers everything to come at the official site first!!
:D :lol:

YIA!

http://www.swahilya.blogspot.com/

Read the two posts here related to TIS...(The author is a reporter / reviewer for "The Hindu")

app_engine
can you post the vikatan thing.

I had great expectation on this album. So I rushed to buy it and unfortunely it turned out to be too religious... I am sorry but this is too religious and I should say this is totally religious album and for non hindus this should be puzzle. I found to be like Gospel music.. taking classical songs and converting into symphony cum broadway look.

But this is my personal opinion and please do not be offended. It is like ARR Deen Isai Malai and converting into Symphony and Broadway music.

S.O.S!!!!

Any IIR fans in the DC area who can help me at the TbI stall in the ThirukkuRaL maanaadu at Smith Auditorium, Howard County, Community College, 10901 Little Patuxent Parkway, Columbia, MD for tomorrow and Sunday, please call me immediately at my cell # 919-413-3913.
Your help is much needed and appreciated.
Thanks.
YIA!!

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I had great expectation on this album. So I rushed to buy it and unfortunely it turned out to be too religious... I am sorry but this is too religious and I should say this is totally religious album and for non hindus this should be puzzle. I found to be like Gospel music.. taking classical songs and converting into symphony cum broadway look.

But this is my personal opinion and please do not be offended. It is like ARR Deen Isai Malai and converting into Symphony and Broadway music.

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I am not offended. But, may I ask you what else did you expect from a work on Thiruvasagam? However, I am not finding it too religious. We have heard enough of praises about this album. But, the experience is limitless. Simply, I dont think that I possess the wisdom to even comprehend this _____ work. I have left it with a dash, since I am yet to come across a word that would symbolize or match the greatness of this work. Do you think there is something called Healing music? And.. I am not talking religion here.

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Originally Posted by alias

I had great expectation on this album. So I rushed to buy it and unfortunely it turned out to be too religious... I am sorry but this is too religious and I should say this is totally religious album and for non hindus this should be puzzle. I found to be like Gospel music.. taking classical songs and converting into symphony cum broadway look.

But this is my personal opinion and please do not be offended. It is like ARR Deen Isai Malai and converting into Symphony and Broadway music.

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I am not offended. But, may I ask you what else did you expect from a work on Thiruvasagam? However, I am not finding it too religious. We have heard enough of praises about this album. But, the experience is limitless. Simply, I dont think that I possess the wisdom to even comprehend this _____ work. I have left it with a dash, since I am yet to come across a word that would symbolize or match the greatness of this work. Do you think there is something called Healing music? And.. I am not talking religion here.

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Kamaraj dont waste your time. It doesnt matter what "other" people think.

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app_engine
can you post the vikatan thing.

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Hi uv, I am not posting the tamil article directly. People have issues with font. Please bear with my poor translation. Here is my tryst with anandhavikatan's article. :)

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Uiy..Uiy...Excited Rajini !


Alwarpet that hosts 'Music Academy' wore an unusually busy look. Why? It was the crowd that came for the unveiling function of 'Ilayaraja's Thiruvasagam Symphony Oratorio'.

Though not mentioned in the invitation card, Rajini flashed in the very beginning of the function and decorated the stage too. Ilayaraja and Mrs. Jeeva Ilayaraja lighted the traditional lamp, the function dawned.

Everyone spoke on the stage were emotinally charged.

"Had I not been an actor, I would have still stood near the gate of this auditorium (Music Academy) among the normal crowd. I am a lover of Ilayaraja's music" melted Kamal, who was already emoted.

Legendary Music Artist Balamurali Krishna released the first CD of Thiruvaasagam. "This is a divine music by Ilayaraja. An ocean of sweetness; It is like 'Narada' playing 'Yaazh' when 'Kannan' plays the flute and 'Kalaivaani' plays the veena" - he narrated about this Symphony.

Barathiraja talked in a melted tone - "Much was talked by many people on this stage; But, every word is heard by me only as 'Ilayaraja' " his voice broke with emotion.

Union minister for Telecommunications, Jaipalreddy came after a while and praised, "Ilayaraja is a genius. He is a cultural treasure of India. King of melody!".

Rajini was in a very jovial mood. There was an upbeat among the crowd when a spoke. <<<<<<<<-- I am not translating the rest of this paragraph, it is not relevant to the album. He talks about his hair dye, Chandramukhi and a kid fan of his -->>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then came Vaiko, whose speech was filled with sweetness. He quoted with ease some verses from Thiruvaasagam ('Yaathirai paththu... Achchappaththu... Pidiththa paththu...'). This was when Rajini got too excited and turned a sudden fan, forgetting his self and blew 'Whistle' with bounty excitement. Ilayaraja spoke at last as a note of appreciation.. "It is wholly god's work. I have attained my life's purpose by composing music for this Thiruvaasagam" he told with a melted heart.

Even after the function was concluded, there was a large crowd in the auditorium rushing to buy Thiruvaasagam CD. The crowd that is generated by the magic called Ilayaraja.

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Friday evening 4:30p.m, I am waiting for my cd to arrive!! innum varalai!! Release day I was exuberant :D , next day i was a victim of the extremes of my virtue, suddenly i was a snob :oops: oops :lol: , now i am desperate... innum varalaiye cd, ippadiye poradhu, waiting for my cd is killing me!! kadavule!!!

baroque

where are u from. if its in USA you should have by now.

njv, I am in california. shipping confirmation kuda vandhadhu!! I follow up on it. thanks, Vinatha.

baroque,

I am in the bay area and I got the CD delivered on Wednesday itself. I had ordered around 15-20th of July.

- Murali

PLEASE ANYBODY TELL ME WHERE IN CHENNAI I CAN GET THE CDs !!!!
I AM DESPARATE
I am in Chennai this weekend, so PLEASE TELL ME !!!

Friends, good news! - one international (technical) music journal is currently reviewing HTNI, NBW and I24HRs and wonder of wonders, one of the review editors decided to review "Mumbai Xpress" as ethnic jazz(!!) - soon, maybe in a month or two, an indepth review of these albums would be publsihed in that journal - since that journal is highly/widely cited and is a much sought-after journal in major music schools, orchestras, IR should be known around the world by then

Soon, TiS will be reviewed for publication in this journal besides two very popular websites, known for their classy reviews of works by composers like John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, John Debney, Howard Shore, Don Davis, Elmer Bernstein, John Barry and many others - the editor who runs one of these websites has already conveyed his readiness to review TiS

Let us now hope and pray for the best

Having listened to TiS firsthand, after its release last week, I am at a complete loss of words to describe my experience - perhaps, the other experience that comes close to this, was when I first saw a Michelangelo painting, or read a Wordsworth poem, or when I fantasised of an azure landscape where there is neither pain nor pleasure, only serene bliss!

Indian mysticism, spiritual traditions are centered around the concept of birth and death caught in a continous cylce , also called CHAURASI - and SOUND plays an essential role in Indian metaphysical concepts

Maestro.Ilaiyaraaja has brought expression to these mystical concepts using music with mind blowing use of Western classical and Indian classical idioms, straddling a middle path and the result is indescribable

We live in a world where modern science says 'Everything is a system even elementary particles (if you believe string theory)!!'

Throughout his musical career, be it in his film compositions or non-film albums such as HOW TO NAME IT?, NOTHING BUT WIND, or INDIA 24 HOURS, Maestro has adventurously explored 'n' number of idioms, genres, and proven time and again that 'music is also a system' and cannot be differentiated into one genre or class and by debunking all existing norms, he has given rise to his own systems approach to music, where the output symbolises the systems approach that 'the whole is greater than sum of parts!'

With TiS, he takes his self-created systems approach to music to an all-time high!

More than a decade ago, Joseph Eagar of the New York Philharmonic Orchestra prophesised thus "This man's (Maestro.Ilaiyaraaja) music will be heard throughout the world over the next millennium."

With TiS, that prophecy is likely to be fulfilled !

test

pls someone throw some light on INdia 24 hours. is it an album by IR. i had never heard of that before.

Posting again :(

PLEASE ANYBODY TELL ME WHERE IN CHENNAI I CAN GET THE CDs !!!!
I AM DESPARATE
I am in Chennai this weekend, so PLEASE TELL ME !!!

I am posting this after a vague listening of thiruvasagam, by IR.
IR ‘s name will be there in history along with Manikkavasagar and GU Pope.
While hearing, I was just praying, “kadavulae nallaa irukkanumae…” like any diehard fan of IR.
Bhavatharini’s “Poothumbi” had put me to tears, and it will be the most liked song in this album,atleast in the first hearing. The song put me into a different world, I just related this song with a butterfly that flies around a garden. It is that energetic. I cant understand the lyrics, probably it is based on a “thumbi”.For the past 2 days, my mind is full of this song. The music has fitted so nicely into the words. Other thing , the energy the orchestra provides parallelly with the human voices. I wished IR could have come out with a version of this song without voice. The orchestration is beyond words. Ilaiyaraaja avargalukku kodi namaskaaram.
I believe this song is based in Sudhadhanyasi???

rajeshrs_tvm,

Vayatherichalai kelappaatheenga :(

Where did you buy the CD..? Is it available only in Music world or in all audio shops..?

It is not 'Poothumbi', it is "kothumbi' - it means 'ko' + 'thumbi' - king of bees/flies - Manickavasagar is apparently conversing with the 'kothumbi' that the honey it is seeking for in the flowers is nothing compared to the sweeter than honey nectar, one can experience from Bhakthi, through esoteric spiritual practice on the spiritual plane, or from the Dharshan or beatific vision of the Beloved LORD!

I would say, IR's composition is sweeter than the honey the 'kothumbi' is seeking!!