Television

Started with Game of the Thrones since BB won't be there for a while.
So much promise in the premise, when I compare it to the bullshit that is called Lord of the Rings.

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bullshit that is called Lord of the Rings

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read the book read the book

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Have to finish the 9 episodes of "Luck" (& see if it's a loss), then I will get to The Newsroom.

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you got some fetish for cancelled shows :-) Rubicon is kick ass stuff..can see why AMC cancelled it..slowly unfolding story which lacks those agmark cliffhanger moments which make the viewers sit up..yam thinking of a four leaf clovers DDoS attack on AMC.

You know that's exactly what that gets on my tits. If Rubicon is 'slow burning', I implore American audience to watch TTSS..

Also I believe HBO cancelled "Luck" for PETA reasons. Having watched first 6 episodes, I'm not at all surprised.

Milch doing a Mann protagonist, in Mann-ered world of outsiders. But Mann only got to direct the pilot. He didn't really have a lot to chew there. But as the series goes on, there are lot more Mann-deserving moments. The races are all captured well. The tribulations of the stables, trailers, and races, which are really non-urbanized zone. Milch really gets that tone of people who are caught in a world they don't really want to break out of, in to the 'modern world'. Characters who are clearly stuck and content being there. Characters who have the means to get out, but wanting to go back there for more. Characters who couldn't really get out of it, for various other reasons (chief of all, for having not made it). The main plot with Hoffman's Ace Bernstein (doing the Deniro role, doing it well) who wants to get back at people he'd not want to rat out to the 'system' that he deplores & opts to be out of. Now in his own terms, wants to get back at those who wronged him. Still without having seen the grandson in first 6 episodes, you already buy in to it.

Milch really not getting the break he deserves with his sole creations.. Even Deadwood finished somewhat hurriedly that it could be considered a premature.

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

Parade's End - 3rd episode

A socialite adulteress wants to be chaste and truthful to the Cuckold, who accepts her back without being taken into manly feelings she tries to ellicit (through this adultery, as she says, she'd only do it when he's looking!), whose ideals makes him stop short of consummating the relationship with a young suffragette, a fatherless free-spirited woman(intellectually, unlike the wife, who might be called a 'loose', considering she has sex with another man on day of the marriage) who is happy to be his spiritual companion. The man is awkward looking and perhaps even sexually inert after a point. He choose to serve in World War I. There's also a child who may or may not be his.

This is positively anti-Downton Abbey, what an expertly sensitive filmmaker is Sussanna White.

With all the social, familial, religious, ideological underpinnings & sex politics you'd expect. The Elegiac tone of the ruling class, without being inconsiderate of the lesser ones, whose need for change is parallely underlined. People of their time and place, without being any less relevant.

Re.sexism,
In lesser hands, Parade's End might be the most sexist show on TV if not for sensitivity & layered approach (against 'hasty judgement') by Sussanna White. Again shows that TV could be a director's medium too.

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4th Episode.

Continues to show up the innocence of "Downton Abbey" (which I'll refuse to knock, coz the relative simple-minded morality is very much at heart of it)

Only in British television, do we see refined comic actors like Roger Allam and Timothy Spall, don't we!

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Originally Posted by wizzy

read the book read the book

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If someone didn't like Godfather, no one dared said to read the book. :lol2:

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You know that's exactly what that gets on my tits. If Rubicon is 'slow burning', I implore American audience to watch TTSS..

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Brits have an unfair advantage over them in this sort..for long they have been well-fed with stable diet of Danger Man/The Prisoner/Ace of Spies/Edge of Darkness/A Perfect Spy..they simply are masters of this domain.

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If someone didn't like Godfather, no one dared said to read the book. :lol2:

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Godfather can exist/make up for a great viewing even if the viewer has no cognizance of back-stories..LOTR is a different kettle of fish wherein if you haven't read the book the LOTR will be a mere CGI porn/:confused2: for the most part..having said all that LOTR is still one of the best book-to film adaptations ever :lol2:

No no. LOTR does work for me, without the book. But it's not really something that speaks to me beyond its surface stimulations.

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Originally Posted by wizzy

LOTR is still one of the best book-to film adaptations ever :lol2:

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I don't care if anybody wrote the film I just watched already as a book or not, but it just doesn't work.
I mean, over 12 hours of characters thrown into it just for the 'epic' stature and no mere storytelling involved. Its plain boring!

Both Boardwalk Empire and Downton Abbey 3rd season kick off tonight.

Meanwhile Tucker returns to Thick of it 4th Season.

Good times.

Less than the 12 hours of LOTR, S01 of GoT is as epic as it would get.
Cleverly written, charmingly acted and overwhelmingly paced.

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Less than the 12 hours of LOTR, S01 of GoT is as epic as it would get.

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Wizzy,
GoT is undoubtedly epic. Its epicness lies in its density and depth, with the visuals servicing the sotry. LoTR trilogy, as is the case with Peter Jackson usually, is somewhat superficial, except the love stories between men of all sizes, shapes and ages that goes as homoerotic undercurrent. That's the human center of the epic, which somehow gets seen as a low point, or unintended humor. It was very much, intended. It's a love story masquerading as a fantastical odyssey..

However, in terms of large screen experience, GoT wouldn't be a visual-fantasy awe as LoTR, but would undoubtedly work in every other way.

GoT S2 on a whole new scale in its ingenuity, wickness and bloody epicness.

Somehow the pacing, and tonal sweep of "Heavenly creatures" seems to be lost, in later PJ films. Esp. LOTR adaptations, of course, bigger story, longer time (all 3 or 4 hour long, extended cut works better, esp. The Return of the king), massive sweep from casting to production design to special effects.. Ultimately, he does what he could. I don't think he lost control, he does his best.

Btw, I was invited to a party staged by wedlock inmates, who "force" the free in to making conversations and hook up. "Married people".. quite like what the woman says to Louie, "They just want to spread their shit on everybody." So, caught Louie when I managed to flee. Once again, the show keeps breaking barries of absurdity in to realism & relevance, who better than Lynch to open up absurdity of a talkshow as the casting/training head (though this is far more accessible and full of humor, obviously written by Louie, not maker of "Rabbits" that opens up sitcom).

Also, Tucker back in biz in TTOT. From Lego Star wars, to Twitter-absuing Glee, to TTS C***. :rotfl2:

Wizzy, there are two types of LoTR fans I know.
One of them tell me "STFU. I read the book. My understanding of the movie is so deep and I will keep on watching it and appreciating me and Tolkien and Peter and Gandalf and myself." The other one tells me, "Royal VFX mate.. kingly!"
And I am neither.

KG/Venkki concur that GoT got a lot more complex plot/characters with varying degree of grayness but to pull LOTR to trashcan is :fatigue: moreso with 'song of ice/fire' burrowing heavily from JRR' The Silmarillion

JRR problem-E illaiyE.

Of course, PJ's LOTR isn't kuppai, I've said as much.

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Originally Posted by wizzy

KG/Venkki

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you for mishtekk.. me deva no

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Originally Posted by wizzy

concur that GoT got a lot more complex plot/characters with varying degree of grayness but to pull LOTR to trashcan is :fatigue: moreso with 'song of ice/fire' burrowing heavily from JRR' The Silmarillion

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As I said earlier, I don't want any fuss about the books.

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Originally Posted by kid-glove

JRR problem-E illaiyE.
Of course, PJ's LOTR isn't kuppai, I've said as much.

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I agree. Bullshit, is a harsh word. But it is awfully overrated.
Whatever had been written, it should communicate to me and GoT does that part much better than LotR. Perhaps, I could have enjoyed the grammar of LotR if it had been a series and still, I'd say GoT might have the edge.

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you for mishtekk.. me deva no

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enakku naalu peru theriraanga boss :sigh2:

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As I said earlier, I don't want any fuss about the books.I agree. Bullshit, is a harsh word. But it is awfully overrated.

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this part I just don't get it..you rate GoT>>>>LOTR just after watching a episode of GoT :roll:

He says S01 of GoT, nearly 10 hours. LoTR should be over that easily.

K_G oh I stand corrected thot he just got started still me thinks this is a case of seeing what he wants to see..this was him just after reading GoT 'premise' about 3 days ago.

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So much promise in the premise, when I compare it to the bullshit that is called Lord of the Rings.

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that's some hate baggage :-)

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Originally Posted by wizzy

K_G oh I stand corrected thot he just got started still me thinks this is a case of seeing what he wants to see..this was him just after reading GoT 'premise' about 3 days ago.

that's some hate baggage :-)

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yuvar aanar, I asked for series reccos and when GoT came up, I asked whether it resembles LotR and Lord k_g confirmed that.
And, when I started watching it seemed 'radically' different from the film and after 1st season I am firm of that opinion now.

LoTR is one of the most hated films out there.

I suppose it's acceptable when the hype and glory of the film is a bit much? You don't see such reactions and counter-reactions for Harry Potter, for instance. Even though it has a huge fanbase.

Problem as I see it, PJ had a style in HC that haven't been utilized, could have easily built on it. Turning soppy, and impersonal, like Spielberg, Cameron, (both, I'd take over PJ) or what have you.

PJ doesn't help himself with TLB as his latest release. LoTR has its features, KK floored me when it released but when I revisted it in Pix few days back, it was 'meh'. The Hobbits will decide his fate, hope he doesn't make Sherlock-Watson invisible as dragons and hobbits.

TLB was super lame..haven't revisited KK on a small screen..outside of TCM all other so called movie channels in India dampens the cinematic experience...last week Tsky pulled the plug on TCM much to my utter dismay :banghead:

Oh dear! TCM'E pOcha!

I'm officially a GoT fanboy from now. (BB is gonna end quickly anyway)
7 episodes of S02 straight and I'm gonna sleep just because I want to stay awake tomorrow night for the Arsenal CL match.

Hobbit trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=b1SJ7yaa7cI

dono why i hate these kinda animation films... am i the only one?

You're not in the minority.

Louie, three episodes of "Late Show" guest starring David effing Lynch. One of the finest hours of television all year. :notworthy:

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Originally Posted by SoftSword

dono why i hate these kinda animation films... am i the only one?

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Idhula 'these kind' dhaan remba mukkiyam.
BB dhaan mudinji poche nesttu enna paarthukittu irukeenga? I suggest Game of thrones. Avasiyam paarunga.

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Originally Posted by VENKIRAJA

Idhula 'these kind' dhaan remba mukkiyam.
BB dhaan mudinji poche nesttu enna paarthukittu irukeenga? I suggest Game of thrones. Avasiyam paarunga.

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tv series visayatthula wizzy dhan namakku god father...
avarta kekkanumnu irundhaen...
GoT BB alavu or BB range'ku pakkatthula varumaa??? paakkaren...

Homeland avvalavu periya thillaalangadiyaa?! Graphic violence irukkumaa?

Rebooted the BB watching. Completed 6 episodes in S1. I left it at 2.5. Still a little slow/boring but three fantastic scenes so far -
1. Missing piece in the ceramic plate
2. Convertible on fire
3. Fulminated Mercury.

Superbly written/acted/executed. And terrific pre/post scenes too. Not sure when I will watch the subsequent episodes :oops:

First 2 episodes of 3rd Season of Downton, are they propping up the elegy? I'll miss the piano piece with tail wagging dog as it looks up at its master as they walk towards the abbey.

"Thick of it" - I'm not quite sure Roger Allam is enough in Tucker-less episodes.. But insults/references from @AIannucci might pull it thru.

"Parade's End" last episode, concludes a sublime series. Magnificent all round.

"Boardwalk Empire", sets up a dangerous Nucky, Rothstein & Rossetti 3 way standoff of Irish, Jewish and Italian.

Homeland is actually quit gripping through out. No graphic violence. But explosions are blood-less, mostly suggestive depiction.. But of course, it's only for adults. You get to see boobs.

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Originally Posted by SoftSword

tv series visayatthula wizzy dhan namakku god father...
avarta kekkanumnu irundhaen...
GoT BB alavu or BB range'ku pakkatthula varumaa??? paakkaren...

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idhu vera sarakku SS.. BB is a different species.
Plus, only 2 seasons so far and the books from which it is adapted itself isn't complete yet.