Neethane En Ponvasantham | Yeto Vellipoyindhi Manasu | Assi Nabbe Poorey Sau

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Originally Posted by baroque

Mel was mentioning few reasons while he disagreed for the review.
one was SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA FOR FILM MUSIC.
It is the continuation of that conversation..
senthil was saying somethibg, i posted something... so..

you carry on....
you enjoy NEPV:musicsmile:

unfortunately I posted something, went away for 3 hrs baseball, returned now, posting reply!
didn't mean to obstruct your enjoyment... though it is!

We are done!

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I think i didnt put my message clear...I too agree we are liking this album not just because it done using the SO from Hungary. as we all know IR always makes it grand when the demand for a music album is grand...he has just delivered that. He could have simply created these tracks using a computer....would we agree to that listening....i certainly dont think so because we all fans wanted something special and every thing has been special about this album....except for the delayed launch other things have fallen in place as per plans....A pure computerized album would not have created this feel..Everyone knows that when the music is being recorded from native instruments the harmony content is quite rich and natural without...this is what we have been listening over the decades from all legendary composers...I sincerely feel we must not leave this art of orchestral music to die and there must be more and more composers embracing IR's type of music recording....otherwise all hell will break loose to give way for plastic music...

Given this situation, I felt the rediff reviewer was not sensitive to the grandeur and richness of the music..hence I included the criteria "Sumphonic orchestra"...

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Originally Posted by Sureshs65

app,

It was VinodKumar who referred to the drumming in detail first I think. The drummer is superb. Met one Raja fan who had come from Chennai and had tea with him. Walked back home for 1.5kms and all I did was listen to ONLY the drumming in 'mudhal murai' throughout the walk, multiple times. As Vinod had said, they have placed the mike perfectly so you can hear every part of the drum perfectly. This is like an album by Cream or LedZeplin. You can just concentrate on one instrument at a time and you will still be very very happy.

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The quality of drumming sound is truly great in this album..no doubt that. this due to multiple factors such as quality of the instrument, tuning, mic placement, recording and of course the drummer skill (not in any particular order of priority).
Though I feel drumming has been much better when compared to other IR albums in the recent past, (which gave me lot of satisfaction, particularly without seeing Sivamani again with IR), I felt, at some places in the album, the drummer could have done better and misses one or two roll beat during transition such as "interlude--to--charanam" or vice versa....listen carefully in pengal song or Mudhal murai or Pudikkalae....

My final take on drumming in this album:
I am really satisfied with the drumming sound, beats, rolls except fomr some minor instances which is OK because that is what orchestral music is all about. it can be only 99% perfect.

thumburu,

There was a reference to 'Rangu Rangu' by another friend in twitter. I think it has probably to do with the gait of both the songs being the same. I generally have never had any problem with Bela's singing in Raja's music till now but in this particular song her voice sounds a bit screechy. Yes, Shreya would have been a good choice. If not, atleast Sunidhi.

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Originally Posted by Vinodkumar

1. In Saindhu Saindhu.. the high-hats are used in closed mode.. the sound after the strike is more subdued versus the open mode where in the sound strike is resonated for couple of milli seconds and then it is closed as he keeps striking it in certain intervals.
2. Regarding the "Rim Click", its the tapping sound that you hear right after the initial rendition of "Saindhu Saindhu" is that when he strikes the stick on the rim of the snare drum or it could be mini version of a drum which produces the "tak... tak" sound.. Any drummers out there?

The more impressed instrument for me is the Acoustic drums and Guitar.. The Drums dominate the whole album followed by Guitar (Acoustics/Electric). You can see the brass/Flute/Oboe dominating every now and then.. This is a musical treat for all of us..

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Yes Vinodh. But rim click is typically used as fillers. we are hearing this sound as the main aspect of drumming...in fact without this sound the whole song will lose some pep...it is so beautifully timed and paced...
Since it is coming as one of the main element and mainly the sound is so consistently sounding throughout the song (because rim clicks cannot be tuned, you might know) I got a doubt if it was a special treble tom-tom, normally placed in between the regular tom-tom...you can differ here.

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Originally Posted by MelHarmony

I felt, at some places in the album, the drummer could have done better and misses one or two roll beat during transition such as "interlude--to--charanam" or vice versa....listen carefully in pengal song or Mudhal murai or Pudikkalae....

My final take on drumming in this album:
I am really satisfied with the drumming sound, beats, rolls except fomr some minor instances which is OK because that is what orchestral music is all about. it can be only 99% perfect.

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My personal take is that given the high quality of drummer and Raja's need for perfection in orchestration, these would definitely have been something planned and not mistakes. I don't know anything about about drumming technically to counter your argument but I guess Raja would not have allowed the mistake and I don't think it would have been something that the drummer is not capable of doing.

And Mel, I have read comments in one of the groups (yahoo groups?) where people had argued that Purushottaman was probably a far better drummer than Sivamani. Looks like Puru was the main drummer for most of the 80s songs and he is very highly regarded in the music circles. Ofcourse, Sivamani is more flamboyant.

Aakarsh, I have 2 requests.
1. Please provide the Telugu version of "sAindhu sAindhu" . Shaan did a good job of Raaja's "mudi mudi" in "pA".
2. I am unable to read your review as the color scheme of your web page is not conducive to my eyes. Kindly paste it here. Thank you.
I feel there is yuvan's hand in the making of "pengaL endrAl". Very much like a Yuvan song with rock flavor

While listening to Vaanam Mella, I was reminded of 'Thendral vandhu theendum'. A very slight resemblance though..

On Srinivas's bringing in ARR:
Ajaybhaskar: Look at it this way. A few days back when Raghav invoked Rockstar in comparison to NEPV, Maddy immediately posted "RockstarA ada poppA, dont invoke Rockstar in this context" type comment to Raghav. paalootti valartha kiLi pAttu kooda pAdinAru Maddy w.r.t that comment and similar rappreciation of NEPV by Raghav.

Edhukku solREnnA, when you invoke another composer in your review of current song, hardcore fans of both composers feel uncomfortable. Perhaps, it is natural.

This is the equivalent of Shreya Ghoshal reviewing Rockstar nd saying "X is good. Y is awesome. Nobody here (except Raja sir) can do this".
Given her Raja-doting history, HC Rahman fans will have a similar reaction as Teja did here.

Ofcourse, we can ask all of these HC fans to rise above camp-politics but avangaLum vENumnE seyyaRadhA theriyala - adhu oru natural reactionA vandhudhdhu pOla



BTW, no ShreyavA? aniyAyam. i yAm thinking of Geofrreying this album :evil:

Oh Srikanth Devarajan giving gushing comments :shock:. Man gave up on Raja two decades ago almost. That does tell something, then.