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And to you dear Scorpio! :D
Wonder how much we have come so far, in our rights as citizens of the world, Pa?????
There are still women out there who die a thousand deaths each day from mental and physical torture of all kinds. Let's spare them a thought as we ruminate on this special day! :(
Niro,
do u rem. there was an equally brutal rape case in an Indian village (can't rem. where or which state :? ) back in 1982/83.......there were 5 guys who gangraped a woman and even tho she took the matter upto court, they were all left scot-free! :evil: And worse- they even took 'revenge' on their victim by killing her once & 4 all! :evil: :twisted:
PS- Happy Womens' Day to u - didn't know it was today!
Just a follow up on the female circumcision matter
Both male and female circumcision is not a religious requirement.
Rather it is encouraged due to health reasons. :roll:
Circumcision for the girl child is done when she is in her infancy due to obvious reasons.
Anyways, there are 3 hukums (deeds).
i)Wajib
Hukum that falls under wajib are compulsary and are found in the Quran.
Failure to do is very sinful.
Examples of wajib, praying and fasting
ii)Sunat
It is good if you do the deed, where you earn your blessings if done. Otherwise, it is not a sin if you fail to do it.
Example:Circumcision
iii)Makruh
Deeds that are not categorised as sinful or blessings are called Makruh.
Example:Smoking
***words in italics are in malay
Yea I'm aware of tat.....was just trying to explain to Niro tat unjust acts against women don't necessarily happen only in countries tat r more 'restrictive' and dominating towards women, just bcos they happen to be Islamic ones. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roshan
azhagana ratchasi,
You are always an azhagi (meaning great here) when it comes to analysing matters and trying to look at the facts properly. All what you have said is correct and I would like to make a small addition to the following. Hope you woudn't mind :)
According to the religion, here circumcision means only male circumcision. Infact male circumcision is encouraged by all Abrahamic religions - Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Even now Jews practice it as much as the Muslims do.Quote:
Originally Posted by a.ratchasi
Anyways, I think we have had enough on this issue and lets move on to something else. :)
Lordstanher,
Thanks. I understand your point !! :)
Yes, let's move on folks!!! We are all aware of what's happening in societies, regardless of what the Ulamas say!
Ratchasi in particular should know what's happening in the M'sian context despite vigorous denials by authorities concerned. Recent arrest of those young Malaysian women in a famous nightspot is a case in point!!
Sadly, no matter what atrocities are done in the name of God, He/She could never be put in the docks with the rest of us, mere mortals, Pa!!
Niro, yes, I am indeed aware of what is happening locally.
Dont let the zealots' action influence you.
That incident you have mentioned was and is still being condemned by the majority of Malaysians.
I am not going to blame it on religion.
What those fellas did touched perversion at its max.
They are nothing more than a bunch of sick minds trying to play the role of 'moral' police.
Hi Ladies,Happy women's day!It may be a bit of commercialisation, but makes me feel good to say it!
Enjoy yourselves!I was wondering what little thing I can buy for my wife, then thought that I will reach home early and go out with her than falling prey to Archies or Hallmark :wink: .
Blahblah, I dont know if your greetings would have made my day, but your intention to take your wife out to celebrate the day certainly did! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by blahblah
Have a splendid evening! :thumbsup:
Yes !!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by a.ratchasi