Astrological Knowledge for better and meaningful life

Dear Mr."sangai_j"

//.... I hope you can help me...My details are:...We are in love for the past 6 years and want to get married. When will the marriage happen. Things are not moving forward at all. Lots of obstacles when marriage talks open up amongst elders.... //

For the sake of such PRIVATE-CORRESPONDENCE.. You can make use of the facility provded as "pm". ... directly.

Whereas this thread-space is NOT INTENDED for such PERSONAL MATTERS of Individual- concern only.

So please DELETE your last posting. and write directly through pm. if you need so.

Dear Mr."r_kk"

// Why can't you take up some verifiable incidences //

Yes... I am proceeding in such aspects too mostly...

And I have already detailed several TRUE-EPISODES here, relating to the Horoscopic-factors...

Few of the persons quoted here... must be well-known known to you too... they being famous..

..but I am unable to either name the person ... nor furnish more particulars on personal identity... it being a Confidential Private-affair.

So I am restraining myself... because of legal-implications and personal decency.

Instead of PROBING on the Veracity of the incidents... it will be better if you think over OBJECTIVELY.

//... your responses are again based on mythical stories. //

So You insist that I should present only as per your Formula and Wishes...?

... and also Restrict myself to reply only to your Questions... Is it?

Dear Friend... even prior to your.... Wise- Questions, Ignorant- Mockeries and Baseless- Criticisms ...

... there are several Questions here... from others too..

... which are yet to be replied... on its due Answer ... true to the sense of this Topic-Title.. I am replying to them also one by one, in the course of this Article.

Two such previous Questions were...

(1) In Ramayana... even though the Muhoortham for Rama- pattabhishekam was chosen and fixed by the Sage Vasishta....

How could it fail... turning CONTRARILY... and Miserably too ... suddenly overnight TRANSFORMATION of the Gaiety- Ayodhya into a Mourning- nation... Topsy-turvy?

Despite the due adherence to the Astrological values in Life...If such outcome can be caused by any other means... what is the Role of Astrology for Life?... How can it be considered as DEPENDABLE.?

(2) While Rama's Horoscope is considered as the Best Yoga- jathakam...as also Seetha's..

... their Life was a TRAGEDY.. in general... with major part of Life spent in Sufferings .. that too UNDULY.

Then how can we believe.. that Astrology helps towards the meaningful and Successful Life?

For this Question.. I started answering step by step...

The above 2 Questions fall withih just a few lines... but the Answers cannot be so...

...since it calls for a detailed, analytical reply... understandable to all ... even by the common-man duly convincing to the reasoning wisdom..

So whether you like it or not. I have to complete this task taken up....

.. which you too will find it interesting if you observe patiently... and OPEN- MINDEDLY

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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

Dear Mr."r_kk"

Dear Friend... even prior to your.... Wise- Questions, Ignorant- Mockeries and Baseless- Criticisms ...

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Dear Mr. Sudhaama,
Some times you are using extra words and sentences (example parrot-crow, Gnana Guru etc etc...) which are not at all necessary and provoke the opponent to give strong replies and direct call for verification of your so-called claims.

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Originally Posted by Sudhaama

.. ONLY such people who are BENT UPON SULLYING even Ajantha...

Let us invite PARROTS MAINLY.. and Not the Crows ... which hate the Good fruits here ...

... However for Crows too we can cater ... in between .the Parrot- feeds.

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http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...er=asc&start=0

Still you are doing lot of "Giri-Paambu demo fighting" and beating around bush with people those who ask direct question on your fundamental concept. Why can't you come to the point straight?

My simple question is still waiting for your answer for more than a week.

http://forumhub.mayyam.com/hub/viewt...=3423&start=30
Your answer to such serious question is still just two words "To continue"... It seems you don't use your writting skills, when and where it is necessary

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Originally Posted by Rohit

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Rohit,
Do you think a bike should should be offered as prize here? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Friends,
I am new to this thread. I am also having lot of interests in astrology. I saw lot of discussions going about whether astrology is a science or not. Though it may be late, I am putting my views on this one.

Scientists have already proved possible influence of rays from other planets on the human body.

A simple idea is, we are getting tired early when we work under the sun for more number of hours than we do under the moon. This is due to the chemical reaction caused by the rays from the sun on our body. This one affects us both mentally and physically.

Another one. The rays from planet Jupiter contain lot of methane. Scientifically , all of us know that methane is good for the living organisms in the earth. So, astrologically we are calling Jupiter as 'puthra karagan' i.e the one who is responsible for producing children. For identifying whether a person can afford a baby, we can identify this one clearly from the horoscope of that man. We have to just identify the power of 5th position and the status of jupiter.

So, clearly we can say that astrology is a science. our ancient people blended this wonderful science with religion so that people will take this one accordingly. In greek mythology, all planets are considered as gods. In our mythology also we are following the same. The reason why we are going to thirunallar in india for sani thisai and 7.5 sani is that scientific studies have revealed that in that place there is a 90 degree falling of saturn's rays. so, we are getting the rays of saturn more by going there. For that reason only, our ancestors formed temples in those places.

Also, I visited FBI website and to my surprise found the horoscope of Osama bin laden. Even a popular intelligence agency like FBI is using the horoscope of laden to capture him. They are believing this one. They are viewing this one as a science. For more details, u can ask me.

I also thank the one who started this thread for providing an oppurtunity to discuss about this wonderful sastram. Astrology is called as Mohana sastram. waiting for all of ur replies.

Dear Mr. "selvakumar"

// .. I am new to this thread. I am also having lot of interests in astrology....//

Glad.... Welcome. Happy to note your nice posting. Please continue.

// Scientists have already proved possible influence of rays from other planets on the human body//
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Yes... Just remaining at a far-off location.. . if the Moon can agitate the Sea to a great extent on every Full-Moon-day and New-Moon days... CONSPICUOUSLY DIFFERENT...

.. why not on all the Earth... and the Creatures too?

Just by sitting within a closed Room at Chennai in India... if a person is able to get in the far-off Washington Radio- Transmission ...

.. just because of the Thrust-waves...from the origin..

... why not the Greater powerful planets' Thrust-rays too can reach all the pervasive directions of the Universe.. spreading over.. like Sun- Rays?

// A simple idea is, we are getting tired early when we work under the sun for more number of hours than we do under the moon. This is due to the chemical reaction caused by the rays from the sun on our body. This one affects us both mentally and physically//.

Tiresome under the Daylight-Sun... is not due to its Rays... but due to its Heat. A person sitting under a shady-tree... even on a Bright Sunny day.. does not get tired... but contrary.

In fact, the Sun-rays energises all the Living- systems under Nature.... including Vegetations, Water, Air, Earth...as also the Seeds sown beneath ...

.. as well as on an Embryo.. hidden in the mother's abdomen...and further the life within the Egg too.

Astrologically speaking the Sun is called the Raja-Graha.. the King of all the Planets...

So to mean.... even while all other planets are well-placed.... if the Sun is very weak in a Horosacope.. with no advantageous positon or aspects by other beneficial-planets towards the Sun or its related Houses Simha or Mesha...

.. such a holder's OTHER LUCKS ARE FUTILE...... He will be like a Beggar on a Throne... by one or the other different factors... such as...

.. Having beautiful wife... but he is impotent... or..

...Financially affluent but Not powerful for access.. or..very sickly, unable to take even normal foods.. or

.. A Warrior with all expertise on Warfare, but not dependable, since a Coward ... or.

...Possesses high Status and Fame in the Society, but facing criminal charges (duly or unduly) leading to imprisonment too. .

... and the like... inexplicable peculiarities or contradictions..in Reality

... depending upon the placement of the Sun in the relevant Horoscope. apart from the auxiliary factors of other planets.

Sun is named as AATHMA-KARAKA (Soul-vitaliser)..the Masculine Planet of Vitality, Courage, Health , Spiritualism, Visual-might, Protection of Self-Prestige, Leadership- Qualities, Realistic- Life- Status.. etc..

//... planet Jupiter ... astrologically we are calling Jupiter as 'puthra karagan' i.e the one who is responsible for producing children.... We have to just identify the power of 5th position and the status of jupiter.//

Jupiter is called SUBHA-KAARAKA.. means one who makes / vitalises the auspicious and positive developments in Life... in ALL RESPECTS.

That is why, people wait for Guru-Paarvai / Viyaazha-Noakkam (Jupitors favourable turn of horoscopical- status) period for Marriage, Property- purchase, House-Construction, Setting new Industries etc...

... and so.. the Astrologers keenly observe the Jupiters factors .. for any prediction at the outset itself. PRIMARLY.

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Dear Mr. "r-kk"... please don't get angry with me... I will reply to your Questions to-day positively...

Now in this... East-U.S.A... it is ... 12-03 noon now...of June-02, Thursday.

Kindly bear with me for my inevitable delay.

Thanks Mr. Sudhaama,
Even at this age, you are sitting very late to write replies to various questions and post positve views on belief sytem which you sincierly believe that it will guide and help many young generations. I appreciate your efforts even though I fundamentally contradict and conceptually oppose you .

Take your own time....

Dear Mr. r_kk,

Thanks for your concern on me coupled with Affection.

HOROSCOPE a Pre-determined DOCUMENT OF FATE?... Unsurmountable?

If the Sun or Jupiter... or any other powerful planet too... are ILL-PLACED in a Horoscope...

... Does it mean.. the concerned has to YIELD TO IT AS DESTINY and SUFFER?

For example... as aforesaid.. if the Sun is so placed in a Horoscope justifying the Impotence of a Husband-youth... having a Young beautiful wife...

... should be contented with blaming his fate only... and SO CANNOT ENJOY THEIR CONJUGAL- LIFE?

If that be so... we have to remember Thirukkuralh... stating..

" If any one is destined to suffer...let that God be cursed..to suffer.. (He is No more the PROTECTOR worth the name as God at all)

Then what must be such Innocent-victims' (by birth).. further approach?

We will come back to this Question later... supported with the true episode of such a sort.

... after answering the previous Questions from Mr. r_kk.

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.. Can ASTROLOGY Help to avert Tsunami-like Disasters?


Mr. “r_kk” wrote:

// Can you explain. “why thousands of people died”. in Tsunami? //

Can a Thermo-meter cause the Fever or Cure the Patient?

No… because it is only an Indicator ... incapable of either to Cause or Remedy the hidden-odd it exhibits

So is Astrology, just an Indicator or Guide towards the Illness.

Can a Balance-Sheet of Accounts. CAUSE PROFIT OR LOSS to an Organisation. ?

No.. Because it is only a Historical-Document of the Past Financial- transactions delivering the NETT-OUTCOME. .. and the Resultant-Status

.. which becomes the Starting point… towards further Transactions and Development of Funds, as well as on the Advancement of the Organisation . Basing on the Balance-Sheet data.

Astrology also is similar to the Financial-Balance-Sheet of Accounts just a Balance-sheet of one’s Deeds during his Past- Births

.. indicating the Accrued Powers and Weakness by means of his Good and Bad-Deeds so called Karma-palan, which one is born with

So a Horoscope or even the subject of Astrology cannot cause any Event to the Holder

.. but it can entangle him in an event caused by some alien force… if his Horoscope indicates so.

Can Astrology predict the Life and the Future of a Building or a Tree or a Piece of Land basing on their Horoscopes, worked out on the Time of their Birth or Origin?

No… because the Astrology works on only the Living-beings through the Brain and Soul and not on Inanimate object (Jata-Vasthu)

... rather the Substances like Plants, Structures, Lands etc… which do not have Brain or Soul.

So the Cause of Tsunami like disasters is totally out of concern for Astrology, which can only PREDICT NOT CAUSE any Event... on “Living-beings only” based on the Horoscopes.

The most ancient Astrology is the Indian, followed by the Greek and Egyptian., which systems are far different from the Indians. But those subsequent systems of Astrology claim, that even though they were the subsequent ones… they have developed and advanced far more than the Indian Astrology.

And they only started predicting the future of Nations and Reigns… whereas Indian Astrology does not accept nor aprove of such a possibility technically… under the above grounds.

If it would have been possible… yester-era Kings who were patronising and highly depending on Astrology even for their petty day to day activities, could have averted the Foreigners repeated onslaughts of Invasions on them.

… as also could have got saved from several Natural-calamities like Floods and Storms… which had caused heavy tolls of the People and the Properties as recorded in the Ancient Indian-History especially in North-India.

Following the example of Greek and Egyptian Astrologers…some of the Indian Astrologers too started predicting the future of the nations and the Governments but most of such foretelling have become a hoax.

So any Prediction on such Earthly-odds like Disasters or Accidents cannot be correct . Because, as practically observed… Astrology is Not intended for Lifeless objects… and cannot be exactly authenticated too.

That is why .. most of the past predictions on the Nations and Governments have failed.

So Tsunami like Disasters Can Neither be CAUSED by Astrology..

Nor can it help to PREDICT in advance..

Nor can Help to AVERT such inanimate Forces.

//Do you think all those died have some thing common in their horoscopes? Please explain...//

Yes (To continue...)