moved the discussion from film section! :)
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54. பெண்ணின் பெருந்தக்க யாவுள கற்பென்னும்
திண்மைஉண் டாகப் பெறின்.
What greater fortune is for men than a constant chaste woman?
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What would be Kushbu and Sugashini's opinion on this kuRaL??? :roll:
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Really?! :roll:
That's news to me PP! :D
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Stranger,
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I am sorry that I posted a part in tamil, but I felt that since I am writing with reference to Thirukkural, I should post it in tamil.
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We seldom hear ppl. (inc. women) saying tat our culture had been on the decline say in the 1950s (or even 20 yrs ago!) even tho most of the men in our society hav been doing things against it! Wasn't smoking/drinking/behaivng loosely common among our men even 50+ yrs ago??
Lambretta, that's an interesting observation because, my grandparents used to say the same thing about my parents' generation and I am sure it was the same before that. My point exactly as I have put it in tamil is, why talk about loose morals among both sexes? Let's talk about strong morals and require the man to take equal participation in defining the moral standards of the society. Why should a woman all the time bear the burden of being the torch bearer of human morality? And as I said earlier, we have been conditioned to think that woman is the pivot around which the moral codes have been defined. Let's change that conditioning. As long as we dont do that, men will continue to take advantage.
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kannan!
where did thiruvaLLuvar say, kaRpu is unimportant for men :?:
* As far as this thirukuRaL is concerned it is TRUE, any man would be proud if his wife is a "paththini".
* No son or daughter will be proud of his/her mom if he/she hears that his/her mom has had more than one relationship!
Tell me where I am wrong here? :)
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Yes stranger, you are right. I agree that the Kural doesn't say chastity is unimportant for men. I just infered that the times were such that the chastity of men was not as important as women's to deserve mention in the Kural. And any man would certainly be proud if his wife is chaste. But why be silent about the chastity of men? This silence encourages men to infer that they are free and cross the line. Wouldn't a woman be equally proud if her husband is chaste? Why don't we talk enough about the chastity of a man as much as we talk about a woman's. The thrust of my argument is, not only should we place both sexes on the same pedestal, but we should emphasize enough to men that they also have the same responsibilities - something that we unfortunately don't do now.
