Great Song Ramki. Hearing 'Vellao Nira" after many years.
Thanks to the Raman/Sriraman song also, liked it.
Bala
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Great Song Ramki. Hearing 'Vellao Nira" after many years.
Thanks to the Raman/Sriraman song also, liked it.
Bala
Ramki, I am not sure if you have already hosted this one. But do you have "gangai nadhi meeno" from Nyayam by IR? Its been ages since I have listened to the song anywhere and I remember it being a decent one. If you think its noteworthy, please consider it for a future pick.
Ramki,
now I have recollected the movie name, It's 'adhipadhi' [Sivaji Raja]. I wouldn't call it as a great song, but it's by KJY, that's good enough for me:) Yesterday I was looking for my resume, then found the KJY song list, it's about 800+, lets say the total could be 1000. mmmm out of 40000 songs that he sang, only 1000 in Tamil??
is it 'ponnai pOla aatha' or 'unnai pOla aatha'? I always confuse about it.
thumbru,
I notice traces of 'rojavai thalattum thendral' in 'veLLai nirathoru' . Are they based on same scale or raaga?
vijayr, I do have 'gangai nadhi'. Will host it soon. But i thought 'nyayam' is by GA?
FM 'adhipathi'?:))
Pick #167
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/konjum_jn.rm
Song: konjum malar manjam
Film: Janani
Singers : SPB, Vani Jairam
Lyrics:Nethaji
Music: MSViswanathan
One of MSV's best from late 80's. IMO, the song has very difficult sandhams . The pallavi and saranam are so intricately related that if you listen to them seperately you might think they are from different songs.
I have a feeling that MSV might have set tune to prewritten lyrics. Speaking of lyrics, Nethaji also has done a fabulous job.
('idaiyenne iraivanaa
uLLadhaa illaiya
':)
VJ and SPB , as always, does a great work.
"Janani" is the last film produced by Gemini studios. It was directed by Nethaji. The film had Mahesh kumar(?) and a bengali actress (Her name was changed to Janani). The film was a washout.
'Mannikka maataaya'(KJY/PS) is another excellent song from Janani.
Ramki: The Hero's name is Udhayakumar who went on to act in "Malayalam" movies after this. The heroine's name I thought was "Gemini" Bhaavya(?) as there was another heroine (the one acted in Geethanjali - thuLLi ezhundhadhu paatu) with the same name.
Illai, Ramki. 'rojavai' is Pantuvarali and 'veLLai' is in Misra Sivararanjani. For more on the latter raga, you can read my magazine article.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ramki
'konjum malar manjam' is in Shanmugapriya.
As RC said Udaykumar did not get a good root in TFs, went to act in some low class Malayalam films.
Bhavya of Janani is different from Kannada Bhavya who acted as Heroine in Geethanjali (MuraLi, NaLini etc). She did a good job in that film though it was her first.
Ramki, before Janani was made, Gemini studio' rights, except colour processing lab, were sold to different parties. Even Gemini house was also sold later. Gemini production rights were sold to a media-magnet (not able recollect his name) who was exceutive editor of Gemini Cinema, Cine mag. This person had produced Janani but under Gemini production brand. So, I think Ellorum nallavare (Tamil, Telugu, Hindi) was the las set of movies under original Gemini studios.
I think Mannikka maattaayaa had 2 different solo versions by KJY and PS (not a duet). One of the interludes-less songs in TFM. It had a bare minimum usage of instruments (Bass Guitar).
Ramki,
I think MSV had other good songs for his credits in Late 80's. other movies that I can think, raasaathi kalyaaNam, thanga kalasam, sivappu malarkaL, vasantha raagam, vaLaiyal satham. IMO, 'raasaathi ennai thEdi varuvaarE raaja' is the best by MSV in Late 80's.
'vellai nirathu...' by Ilayaraaja.. thanks Ramki! I am listening to it after a long time!! I am amazed at the emotional depth in Janaki's singing in this song!! thanks Ilayaraja! love, vinatha
RR thanks:)
RC thanks for catching the typo. aedho ninaippiile padam peraiye ange pottuten
SN23 i mentioned it as KJY/PS not (KJY, PS) :)
My pleasure baroque
The genre of light-classical songs has almost disappeared from TFM. The recent few attempts are nothing but jokes, with their loud synthetic beats that make me reach for headache pills. MSV, Shankar-Ganesh and Vijayabhaskar chose VJ for all of their difficult classical based compostions from the mid-70s to the early 90s. The combination of technical perfection, impeccable pronunciation, expressiveness and the majesty of VJ's voice has never been matched since. Nityasree has a lot of potential but is being wasted in the technical circus called today's music, taka taka taka jam. By the way what is up with that highspeed mridangam uruttal in that song taka taka taka jam? Did not mean to digress here.
Thanks for the great choice "konjum malar manjam", Ramki.
Pick #168
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/ethanai_ss.rm
Song: ethanai azhagu
Film: Sivagamiyin Selvan
Singer : SPB
Lyrics: Vaali?
Music: MSViswanathan
Song sent and requested by RC. The hindi version 'roop tera' was sung by KK. MSV must have had a tough time to not get inspired from the all India famous 'aaradhana' songs. Each and every song in tamil sounded very different from the original. Personally i liked the hindi version better than the tamil(and ofcourse the film aaradhana was miles ahead than SS..it is tough to even imagine the bloated SG in the role of an young and charismatic pilot that rajesh khanna did with his own charm) .
I think Latha made her debut in SS. What was the tamil version of 'baghon mein bahaar hai'?
Ramki,
Isn't this a solo? I believe Sivagamiyin Selvan's songs might have been recorded even before Vani started singing for Tamil movies in 1973.
The tamil version is 'Aadikku Pinne Aavani Madham Varuvadhu Undu.. Aamam..' by TMS and LRE, no where near the 'Baghon Mein Bahaar hai' song like the Roop Tera song!
However it is not fair to compare these songs to the hindi songs which heralded a new era of Kishore and RDB. Having said the songs were played often on Ilangai and AIR.
However MSV did give 4 good numbers
a. Iniyivale -- Korah Kagazka Ye Man mera
b. Ullam Rendum -- Mere Sapnon ki Raani
c. En Raajavin - Chandha Hai Tu
d. MSV Asiri Song
Mela Thalam a la 'Gungu Naara Haira Bhavru' did not impress me either.
Thanks for reminding the era.
Bala
Not too fair to compare, but since you brought it up, my vote goes to 'ethanai azhagu' for the feel and 'mood' of the situation. SPB just rocks. Tune, melody-wise, 'roop tera' is easily better.
It was an honest attempt by MSV without copying even some shades of Aaradhana songs.
En rajavin roja mugam is very pleasant in its way. Especially that humming part at end of each charaNam.
I think Ulagam sutrum vaaliban was the first movie for Latha, but SS got released bit earlier.
Terrible cast of Sivaji, AVM Rajan, Latha (Vanishri exempted) and over-do for nothing, lead to a disaster of SS. The same thing happened when Mother India was remade in Tamil with Sivaji and Vanishri.
Piece of info on this POW. The entire song sequence was picturised in one single shot (4+ mins). Do not know how many "takes" it took. It seems the entire crew applauded the innovation of the director & lead pair. At end of the song, Sivaji will push Vanishri(looked very sexy in this song without Jaakettu) into bed and bounce on her :-)
Ramki
"MSV must have had a tough time to not get inspired from the all India famous 'aaradhana' songs"
However KVM got inspired by ''Gungu Naara Haira Bhavru' ' and gave the 'Enga Veetu Thanga Therukku indha madham Thiru vizha' (SPB/PS duet) in Anurodhayam.
Bala
"which heralded a new era of Kishore and RDB"....Balaji, ArAdhanA is by SDB (the father Burman), I think...
Sure Sir, Aradhana's MD was SD Burman.
RDB was assisting his father SDB in this film. 'Roop Tera' was always credited to RDB by trade circles and so are one/more songs in this film. However the pleasantness of the other songs had the SDB feel, at least to me...
Whatever may be truth, success of Aradhana and the super-duper 'Roop tera' song gave a lift to RDB's career and SDB slowly reduced his assignments (age could be a factor too!)
Bala
Thankyou all for posting your thoughts on ethanai azhagu
Pick #169
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/putham_sd.rm
Song: putham puthu meni
Film: subha dhinam
Singers : PSuseela, BalaMuraliKrishna
Lyrics: vaali
Music: KVMahadevan
Thanks to JN for the song. (I apologize for the poor quality, i did my best to remove the noise).
On Jan 1st of every year, the very first song VB airs on ungaL viruppam is 'aandukku aandu thedhikku thedhi' by SG. The song is so popular, atleast on newyears, that it shadowed the another good song. Todays pick.
A beautiful duet by KVM(though i read that the song was actually tuned by TGLingappa for someother film. He later let the director of SD to use the song).
PS does a great job. She just breezes through the song with her sweet young voice and almost makes BMK voice just bearable.
Another popular song from SD is 'verenne ninaivu unnai thavira'(PS,TMS, ALR)
"konjum malar manjam" - what a great song!!! But sandham is similar to an IR song
"vaanam niram maarum" [But the ragas are different] from DhavaniKanavugal which got released few years before Janani.
Also MSV has reused the same phrase from his late 70's VJ solo song "Ganga Yamuna saraswathi" [ I don't know the film name]
for the line "vaarayo yen uyire" .
BTW, there is a song "welcome you are welcome" . Can anybody tell the movie and the MD for this song? I think SPB has sung this song.
thumburu: are you referring to
"welcome you are welcome you all are welcome
maalini mOhini raagini neelaveni welcome"
It is from Suvarillaadha chithirangaL. MD - GA?
subhadinam
lyrics by Vaali
a great song..
thanks ramki
Thanks ramki:)
the small pause between "idho adho, edho" and "iyal, isai, viLai" is enjoyable.
Lyrics for the song:
BK: puththam pudhu mEni isaith thEni
thUngum malar vaNNamO
puththam pudhu mEni isaith thEni
thUngkum malar vaNNamO
dheyvIgak kai vaNNamO idhO adhO
edhO un mey vaNNamO
dheyvIgak kai vaNNamO idhO adhO
edhO un mey vaNNamO
PS: mannan thiru mEni magaraaNi
thUngum malar manjamO
mannan thiru mEni magaraaNi thUngum
malar manjamO
PS: kaN pEsum kadhai konjamO .. iyal .. isai
viLai nam iru nenjamO
kaN pEsum kadhai konjamO .. iyal.. isai ..
viLai nam iru nenjamO
mannan thiru mEni magaraaNi thUngum malar manjamO
BK: thuLLith thuLLi Odum puLLi maanO
mozhi thEnO
manavOdE nINda ninaivO(??)
susIlaa: aaaaaa
thuLLi nadai pOdum kani thaanO thamizh naanO
unthan paattil mayakkam EnO
BK: aaaaaa
PS: mannan thiru mEni magaraaNi thUngum
malar manjamO
BK: aththip pU pOlE anbu sOlai pUththa magaLallavO
PS: nenjaththil naaLum vaazhum dheyvam nIyallavO
iruvarum: uLLam thaan kOvil
vizhi vaasal
dhIpam uyirallavO
PS: anbukkOr aLavum
BK: illai
PS: inbamE namadhu
BK: ellai
puththam pudhu mEni isaith thEni thUngum
malar vaNNamO
rajeshkrv thanks for the detail
Jn thanks for the lyrics
Pick #170
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/naan_pv.rm
Song: naan thedum paadham
Film: pudhu vayal
Singer : KJYesudoss
Lyrics: ?
Music: Sirpi
Thanks to Mano for sending this song. A semi-classical , hopefully one of Sipris favorite.
I do not have any othe details on the film
Click on the link below to get a listing of all songs from PV
http://nexus.tamilsoft.net/SongView....=Pudhu%20Vayal
Ramki, I hesitated to post this. Somehow I am not able to like (?) BMK's singing a cine-duet which should promote romantic mood in listeners. His too much classical 'nedi' does not gel with PS's sweet rendition. Even in Thanga radham vandhadhu, he forced heavy sangadhi's. This is purely my thought & not to degrade his greatness in music world. But I like his solos in Vadaimalai, NoolvEli etc. NOM :-)
Thanks RC. "Suvarillaadha chithirangaL" is ofcourse by GA only.
SN23: Thats exactly how I feel about BMK's duets, though I like thanga radham vandhadhu.
SN23, RC
His early-day songs are like that. He can sing really light also. Just listen to his astapathi's (there's one in mallu film 'gaanam' - beautiful). I guess kavikkuyil songs can be considered light too.
Ramki, "naan thedum paadham" is truly a wonderful find !!!
MD: Sirpy ? :o . This song alone has absolved him from the crime of his painful egyptian/persian/arabian aural attacks he has inflicted on hapless listeners.
Raga could be "malayamarudham" or something close to it
It is sad that with nobody like KJY around, this genre of songs is dying in TFM. UK , though good still lacks the depth of KJY.
RR, I accept your "He can sing really light also. Just listen to his astapathi's (there's one in mallu film 'gaanam' - beautiful). I guess kavikkuyil songs can be considered light too.".
No doubt on that. What I shared here was on BMK's film duets. I found him not a romantic mood creater-singer like SPBala or TMS etc. Otherwise, MD's would have been waited in Q to offer him duet songs. His solos are lovely, esp Mounathil viLayadum.
Ennai yaarum adikka vara maattaargaL endraal, I share my thought. BMK's kaadhal duets sound like Oru thanjavoor maamaa vesti kattikittu vethala-seeval mennukittu aayasamaa duet paadrappala irukkum. If he had sung "poongaatru thirumbumaa", I might have loved. GOD!!... NOM :-)
Pick #171 & 172
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/kottai_ct.rm
http://tfmpage.com/stream/songs/arumba_ct.rm
Songs: arumbarumba and kottaiyvituu
Film: chinna thaiyi
Singers : Psuseela/SJanaki
Lyrics: ?
Music: iLaiyaraja
It was early 90s i think. On a lazy weekend, i started watching this unknown film called chinnathaiyi. All i know about the film is those 2 excellent songs 'naan aerikarai melirundhu' and 'kottaiyaivittu'.
Only into few minutes after the film started i was totally captivated. The film had a different look..im not sure how to explain it..you can call it say a different texture?
Its about a unwed mother, ostracized by a village, trying to protect her daughter from meeting the same fate as hers. Daughter does the same mistake the mother did. Does she end up like her mother?
The story was told very convincingly and interestingly by a debutant director(who?who?). The highlight of the film was the performances by highly underrated sabita anand(as the mom) and vinuchakravarthi(as the hero's father). Rajeswari played the daughters role while vignesh did her beau's character.
IR music was stunning. 'Kottaiyivittu' had 3 different versions.
The kids version(by UR , Minmini) etc is the popular one,SPB's a shorter one and SJ's the rare one.
'arumbarumba' is a nice lullaby (One cannot not help notice the aged voice of PS).
Ramki: The director's name, I think, is Ganesapandiyan. Chinnathaayi was successful at box office and the director's next attempt was Maamiyaar veedu *ing Selva and another hero which was a flop, I think.
arumbarumba is too good. I think it's in Mayamalava gowla. Can see shades of 'kuyila pudichu'.
Also, arumbarumba reminds me of "Sondhamillai Bandhamillai" from Annakkili. That was also by PS.
Ramki
Thanks a million.
90s reminded me of Rakkai Koyil and Nangal also. Parthathenna to me is the finest SPB_Chithra Duet ever. Undhanin Paadal ennai engo kondu sella was always wonderful to hear...
If you have the clips and find them suitable, please host them.
Thanks for all the wonderful songs you host.
Bala
Bala , who ids the MD of Raakai koil? Nangal?
raakayi kovil was by IR. Undhanin paadal by Uma Ramanan is from that film
naangaL was by IR.
Ramki, naan yEri karai mEl irunthu, had three version as well, one by KJY, one by SL and a duet by KJY, SL. 90's IR albums are like that.