app,
Mohan nadicha padangal dhanae..............
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app,
Mohan nadicha padangal dhanae..............
ஒன்றில் உள்ளார், மற்றதில் இல்லை :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by tvsankar
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App, thanks for reading
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This thread is making my lauv for singing spring back in action. Nowadays driving back, I sing my lung out, and with correct emotion. Not only I enjoy myself (vanity plays a part), but it keeps me from sleeping behind the wheel.
On Enggeyo Edho, not my favourite, the Jeyachandran song is. EE to me feels loud. I can't even remember SPB in it.
App_Engine
This is one, even I can answer
Duets - Nenjathai Killadhe - Uravenum and Paruvame
Solos - Nizhalgal - Pon Malai and Madai Thirandhu
Bala
app,
matrondril mohan ilaiya.. sari.. yar nadichadhu adhu........... think about tat........
app,
Very true. Lot of 80s and 90s I have not heard but surprisingly lot of 70s IR I have heard. So it was really surprising to me when I heard KV say that he has not heard, "naan oru ponnoviyam". _Even_ I have heard it :)
Your effort is excellent. I am sure lot of songs which I haven't heard will turn up. Everyone is eagerly awaiting this series. As was suggested, maybe you should compile this into a book. I will write the foreward saying that you have now beaten the likes of Shaji :lol: Jokes apart, I think there is merit in the book suggestion. (Without my foreward ofcourse)
SPB "Excells" in this Song, I dont know why, but this songs Reminds me of some "Arasa Kaalthu Padalgal" :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sureshs65
Pazhaya Padalgalai gynabagam varum pothellam, silla nerangalil naan romba unarchi vasapadugiren :(
App anna
I am copying all your songs into a word document and compiling it, in case the hub server crashes :lol: . Please consider writting a book based on this, or even start your own blog on the net ! You would beat SPB sir Genius Books of Records :lol:
You are doing a great job, keep it up :thumbsup:
I think the superhit movie is Payanangal M - probably saalai oram and ei aatha
App has a huge soft corner for PM(not Manmohan Singh)
:clap: correctA pudichchutteenga!Quote:
Originally Posted by balaji
Plum,
payaNangaL mudivadhillai is a 1982-er, I was in college then :-) Also, it has 7 SPB songs, not just 2 :wink:
#49 உறவெனும் புதிய வானில், பறந்ததே இதய மோகம்
(நெஞ்சத்தைக் கிள்ளாதே, 1980 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Sophisticated!
That's my one word description of this song and none can come anywhere close, never, IMO! ('poongARRu puthithAnadhu' / 'en iniya pon nilAvE' are distant second)...Sounds modern ever, with no indulgence in English or technical terms or anything that's "supposed to sound cool" but the song sounds hip even today!
Right from the prelude, one can sense that Raja was on a different trip in this song (actually the whole album). Perhaps pre-determined by the combo (IR-Mahendran-Pratap-Ashok Kumar) that they're going to have the music unlike anything heard before. The guitar (bass / lead), synth, flute, strings - every one of them was possibly pre-planned to be stylish (well, it seemed like that to me). I wish Madhavan heard this 1980 number before making a comment on the 1991 'rAkkammA kaiyaththattu' as 'something not expected from IR' :-(
IIRC, the team planned everything about this movie in a classy manner (the artwork of posters, pictures on them, movie title, songs - everything looked sophi). I watched the movie only recently on web -it had its flaws but definitely enjoyable and way ahead of its times. Well, the good thing was it becoming a big hit both commercially and among critics, something only the likes of Mahendran can do!
Though 'paruvamE' had more air time, uRavenum was my personal #1. It had everything that I wanted - a modern sounding Raja, sweet melody, excellent singing by SJ & SPB, decent lines with absolutely nothing to irritate! This is one youtube that one can happily search for and there won't be any disappointment! While my +1 classmates had funny comments about the heroine when it arrived, they loved the movie & songs so much!
(Ofcourse, one should look at Suhasini as "some new girl doing her first movie", i.e. without prejudice and not the artist who played many annoying feminist roles with KB & others later in her career or the too-talkative TV artist or MR's wife who gives controversial interviews to media every now and then or the niece of a great actor having far less talent or the one who had a share in Chiru's massacres of many IR-TeFM-songs or the infamous dialog writer of rAvaNan.
At least look at her as a DHIRF or the pAdaRiyEn / nAnoru sindhu girl :wink: )
First TF for Mohan also (who did 'kOkilA' in Kannada with Kamal/Balu Mahendra earlier) and Raja definitely gave him a rousing welcome with two superb duets. Ashok Kumar, IIRC, won NA for his pleasant camera work. Suhasini started her film career as assistant to Ashok Kumar (after film institute study of cinematography I think).
At that point of time, a great team - everyone thinking modern / sophi - working with IR! Per my theory ("oft-repeated-in-the-hub" by me), whenever Pratap Pothen and IR were together in a movie, the guitar work was endearing and so Pratap could've exerted some positive peer pressure on IR. Whether true or not, we are the greatest beneficieries of this one fantastic team of NK!
This is one hell of a song by the "Lethal" SPB + IR combo, love this song to the core! I am great fan of the "greatest villian" Raghuvaran, but some how he is all over the Place when it comes to Romance :| , Sumalatha :lol2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StH2QX65Ws0&feature=player_detailpage
from tfmpage archives:
The above post had also been quoted in the dhool-SOTD hosting of uRavenum puthiya vAnil, nice nostalgia!Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhan
the archive discussion page
Some interesting comments :
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App, what a start to the 'sophistication phase' of IR's career! This one's among my all time favourites of the man, specially those charanams, poignancy personified.
Now, here's an incident that happened at my college, the days when I would fervently 'market' IR's brand among my classmates and others. The college fest had just gotten over in which our band had covered Metallica's instrumental 'The Call of Ktulu', which there after went on to become a bit popular among my group of friends (who were not really rock/metal fans). The week after the fest, one of the guys brought his new Sony 'discman' (gosh! this thing already seems like a dodo, doesn't it!) to college. Carpe diem! I promptly took my (then, 1st or 2nd disc!) 'IR Mohan hits' cd the next day and played them Ilaya Nila ("now you know where your Nele nele comes from"), Paruvame, Mandram vandha thendral, etc and quite naturally, had most of them impressed (predominantly non-Thamizh folks). Then when it came to Uravenum, the fun began. When the backing rhythm guitar started playing (from 0:13) one of the guys jumped and declared - COPY! COPY! Quite amused, I asked from where he thought it was stolen. "Can't you recall? Metallica? The Call of Ktulu?" he said. Then it struck me that the pattern was indeed a bit similar (from 0:34). It was just a simple chord, four notes being repeated in a loop and there wasn't anything substantial in labeling it plagiarism, I tried to explain. But the guys wouldn't budge (gultys, Ramanagokula fansulu!). Not willing to give in, I hurriedly looked up the internet to see if this had been discussed anywhere (romba mukkiyam paarunga!) but found nothing. IMDB only had the year of release and other movie related information. Cometh the hour and to the wikiots, wikipedia will rise! And what a brahmastra it turned out to be! Call of the Ktulu features in the album 'Ride the lightning', which Wiki declared in big bold letters, released in 1984! Khatham gatham!
Thanks for digging out some treasure App, very interesting!
What a song :shock: :D Thanks a ton App Engine for posting this gem! your and KV's writeup too is too nice :)
நன்றி KV & SKV!
KV's recap of college experience is quite interesting!
Sounds like the copy claims that come up on hub threads from time to time :-)
...இணைந்த கோலம், இனிய கோலம், இளமைக்காலம் ... 30 வருடம் ஆனாலும் வயசாகாத பாட்டு...
இந்தப்பாட்டு எப்போதுமே "இளமை" தான்... இளைய ராசா மாதிரி...(GA has done ok job of unobtrusive lines)
Superb posts App & KV on Uravenum Pudhiya Vaanil. In my books, Uravenum is the song of the century for it's brilliant orchestration, divine singing and mesmerizing tune.
Superb App/KV. To be honest, I rediscovered this song only like a few years ago.
Awesome App and KV..Lovely reading about the background of Uravenum , the old archives and your nostalgic memories..
This is turning out to be a memorable thread, the best thing is still we are only in 1980 :)
Uravennum is not a regular in TV channels and in FMs AFAIK, when you compare it with paruvame. A friend of mine had recorded this song over and over again on one side of a 90 cassette. I borrowed it from him and never returned it. A perfect 10/10 song incl the video. Thanks app this song has been running inside my head (incl the ludes) since last night. Don't want to listen to it now - like this feeling :-)
Btw the song is a delight to listen to, 'under influence'. :-)
Under what Influence?? :lol2: JD :lol2: :yessir:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nerd
Nope, grouc. Not me. I'd have been more like the situation, the mapping of the music to situation and Frabhu Rau will tear his hair in despair when I make that connection to music and situation/emotionQuote:
Originally Posted by yaaro -I suspect this could be Plum's old avatar
I really wonder what some reviewers will do when presented with songs like this to review-when the current songs are reviewed with eack tinks and tonks and plinks and plonks given their due,songs like this and rakkamma-their reviews will run into pages.
The flute at the end of the strings before the songbegins -if there is a musical equivalent of breaking out in gooseflesh-this is it!
:lol: - I was thinking to write "This song sounds like composed under influence :lol:Quote:
Btw the song is a delight to listen to, 'under influence'
But knowing IR, he probably wasnt under influence. ellAm apdiyE varum pOlirukku avarukku without external stimulant :bow:
நன்றி rajkumarc, groucho, skr & Nerd!
Nerd, 'paruvamE' had a much bigger lead over 'uRavenum' on radio at the time of arrival too :-)
App, a pre-KB-ised Suhasini is actually tolerable in the movie. Well, I'll upgrade that. She was quite a fiery young woman who you felt a grudging admiration towards. Unlike the vapid, KB-ised, eyebrow-crunching, artificial silar sirippar silar azhuvar emoting Sindhu(Bhairavi's competitor)
:lol2: Nice usage :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
There was this Mammootty movie (Malayalam) where she did commendaly too (ente upAsanA, I think). I liked her performance in SB too but not MUV & afterwards...
#50 பருவமே புதிய பாடல் பாடு
(நெஞ்சத்தைக் கிள்ளாதே , 1980 , ஜானகியுடன்)
Sweet jogging number, another SPB-SJ duet of top calibre from the same movie!
As mentioned earlier, a bigger hit with general public than uRavenum. There was this legend that the tap-tap-tap sound was generated by hand-tapping-on-the-thigh (and not a musical instrument), don't know whether true, but there was strong blah-blah and belief among classmates about this. I don't know whether some mag talked about it or not but I've never read anywhere myself.
Unlike uRavenum - where both SPB & SJ performed equally IMO- in paruvamE, SPB easily scores over periyammA (SJ's voice is very similar to my mom's elder sis, i.e. mom of the cousin whom I often talk about in this nostalgia trip :wink: Well, she was classically trained -arangERRam levels - and her singing of movie songs is delectable...as I type this her kitchen singing of the saraNam of 'rAjAthi rAja un thanthirangaL' gets played in my mind).
paruvamE is nice on screen too, I think both these songs (and also that wonderful 'E thenRalE' by PS) had picturizations of the kind that Mahendran always wanted in movies. I've read often that he hated the lip-sync'ed songs on screen.
The song does not have a prelude but the interludes are very enjoyable - same standard and similarly stylish / sophi as uRavenum's. And the transition from 2nd interlude to the saraNam ("தேனாடும் முல்லை") is one of the best ever! As for the melody and singing part, my most fav is that first line of saraNam ("பூந்தோட்டத்தில் ஹோய் காதல் கண்ணம்மா" / "தேனாடும் முல்லை நெஞ்சில் என்னமோ").
Songs like this cannot be stopped with just one listen...must be on repeat mode to thoroughly enjoy!
BTW, paruvamE is the "pachchAs" :-)
thanks a lot app_eng.
Though I often listen to the compositions, it is always a pleasure listening one more time at your tfmpage thread with your kutti postings.
enjoy,
HURRAY 80s Ilayaraja!
vinatha.
Beautiful song and post App and KV as always!! :thumbsup:
Uravenum Puthiya Vaanil is a song of the century as rajkumarc rightly pointed out. Luckily I watched this movie in theatre when it was released with my parents. Eventhough I didn't quite understand, I still remember liking all the songs, picturization and not to forget Vennira Aadai Moorthy, Kumarimuthu and gang's laugh riot. I even cried when Keech died. I am not sure, if I can watch now with same enthusiasm, but it's great movie for sure and ahead of its time, very stylish film, but had a lot of heart in it.
KV, nice to read your college memories of this song. Just wanted to ask, if you informed your friend about which song came first and what was his reaction after that?
Do I need to mention about singing by SPB and SJ, name says it all! The tune and how it peaks high and suddenly dips giving the beauty. The start of charanam first line and how it ends low, sweeter than honey.
The bass lines runs as a life line through out the song, absolutely dreamy! The prelude is haunting. The flute just before pabapabapa... and the bass guitar chords when pallavi is on. These can't be separated out from vocals and are interwoven to perfection. While the first interlude plays an important role in developing their relationship to love, the second interlude is much more powerful. It is interesting to hear how the prominent guitar in the first interlude gradually goes to background and acts as bass guitar when other instruments comes to foreground ending with a beautiful violin crescendo!
What makes second interlude more interesting is the solo meloncholy violin for a happy and breezy duet. Just this piece made me curious to watch the song recently. It starts with Mohan and Suhasini were in middle of the road with their car having a starting problem. I don't know how this was conceived and conveyed to Maestro by Mahendran sir. But he gives here the intermittent chords and spooky phaser symbolizing the outage. And when the car starts, continuous flute begins to flow just like through our nerves. Cut there, then comes the carefree whistle when they both ride their bicyles casually. Till now everything is perfect and now comes the Oliver 'twist'. Suddenly a solo violin plays in meloncholy mood symbolizing there is some obstacle in their love ahead. Mahendran sir nailed it perfectly by bringing in Pratap there sitting over his car, when Suhasini and Mohan meets him. Here suddenly the tone of the violin completely changes what we just heard in solo mode when Suhasini and Pratap start chatting. Here again symbolizing something terrible is going to happen and the camera pans across Mohan and his expression says it all.
One of very few Maestro songs picturized to perfection. It's amazing that Mahendran sir captured the mood perfectly down to the instrument level not just the whole interlude level. Most others don't even notice these nuances.
Four great Masters in greatest action for one of the greatest song! :notworthy:
Beautifully said V_S..Enjoyed your write up thoroughly on this wonderful song ..Quote:
Originally Posted by V_S
Lovely writeup V_S. Have to listen to the song while reading your post.
Uravenum was a late discovery for me (about 3 years back) and never knew such a song existed in the movie. You could imagine my shock and disbelief for not having listened to this beauty and still proclaiming myself as an IR fan. I would probably blame the TV for they never showed Uravenum and it was Paruvame all the time.
Disovering the Hub and it's special group of IR fans are the best things that could have happened to me atleast, especially in terms of listening/sharing thoughts about IR's music and lot of other things about films.
Superb writeups app, KV and V_S. Thoroughly enjoying them. Had posted link for these discussions in twitter. I am sure those coming here will be thrilled to discover such passion for Raja and SPB.
I watched this movie in Telugu. Loved the three songs. As everyone agrees one of the few movies where full justice is done for Raja's songs in terms of picturisation. Everyone who saw the movie was thrilled with the 'Paruvame' song.
Nice post V_S!
I watched the youtube this morning and can relate to the analysis in your post :-)
Thank you Sureshji for both the comments and referral :-)
Thanks a lot skr, rajkumarc, Sureshji, App for your kind words! I am deeply moved. Definitely I agree with rajkumarc, this hub is a great platform to unite, share and learn daily from our friends here. Without this, the world will be less interesting!
App, I think its time to cut down some redundancy and declare something like a universal variable, that can be used in every post, something like LAUAE (lovely, as usual, A_E) or APAE (awesome post, A_E) :smile:
The best part about Paruvame is the laid-back manner in which each aspect in the song rolls out - the tune, the interludes, the singing; absolutely unhurried, delicate and gradual, like blossoming of a morning flower.
V_S, beautiful writeup on Uravenum, very interesting points. And yes, my friends were around when we looked up the net (did it at our, then newly-established, internet center at college). Of course, they had no choice but to (in Vivek style) 'close the bonnet and dikki'! ;-)
KV :-)
'paruvamE' has this slow increase and decrease in sound levels for the lead instrument (strings / harmonium etc) which is another enjoyable thing in the first interlude. EGS! (evergreen song)