As we eagerly await NEVP, let us for the time being check out and enjoy this video of a Japanese guy singing Raja's Kannada song, 'santoshakke' (Calling Jai, calling Jai)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YhmC...ayer_embedded#!
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As we eagerly await NEVP, let us for the time being check out and enjoy this video of a Japanese guy singing Raja's Kannada song, 'santoshakke' (Calling Jai, calling Jai)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YhmC...ayer_embedded#!
'Mudhalvar Mahatma' songs downloadable free of cost (legally)
http://mudhalvarmahatma.com/music.html
Got the link from my friend in twitter
Looks like we will get fotos daily :D
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...21206991_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...71154208_n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...60179774_n.jpg
There are many fotos here - http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...5426476&type=1
Have heard that she writes only one song per month. And prefers to write at her place. Both would have not worked for this film.Quote:
Originally Posted by sakaLAKALAKAlaa Vallavar
வி.தா.வ பாடல் உருவாக்கம் இசை உருவாக்கத்தோடு உடனுக்குடன் நடந்ததாகவும், ஒரு பாடல் முடிந்தவுடன் அடுத்த பாடல் என இடைவெளியில்லாமல் சென்றதாகவும் தாமரையே குறிப்பிட்டிருந்தார் ஒரு நேர்காணலில்.Quote:
Originally Posted by AravindMano
Thanks Suresh ji for the Mudhalvar Mahatma link. :smile: The second track, 'Iraivanai Varam KEttu' by Sriram Parthsarathy is the only (normal) lengthy track. It is a very good song. Seems like it was composed during 2007/2008 (as I heard the film was launched in March/April 2008). First track 'Gandhi Indru Irundhaal' is a beautiful one, even if it is a short one. Don't know who is the singer, she sang very well and has a different voice. Other songs are again too short for us to make any decision/impact. May be the film has more scope for the score rather than the songs.
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/7011
"The beauty and uniqueness of these songs transcends the dated sound of much of the 1980s digital technology — state-of-the-art at its time — that was used in its rendering. These elements are incorporated so seamlessly and in such an original, throw-out-the-rulebook fashion as to keep this music vital beyond its original air-date and context"
On the same CD. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/indha-vennila *some explicit words*
:thumbsup: layman gaaru, from where do you even dig these things out? Who are the guys doing these compilations? (the album titles and artwork are whacky most of the times!) Are you one among them? How do these records reach the reviewers? kOmblitt details parayu saarey.
http://twitter.com/#!/menongautham/s...811008/photo/1
Goutham says "Picture says it all"
Probably like this :
IR : (looking at Goutham ) Enna paa ? Pothumaa ?
Goutham : romba thanks sir.
OR
IR : Enna paakkare ? un kathaikku idhu pothaathaa ?
Goutham : pothaathu sonnaa thirumbavaa poda poreenga..
:)
Thank you for posting all those nice NEPV- London photos ;)
IR : idhellaam naan paatthukkaren... nee poi padattha mudikkira velaya paaru thambi...Quote:
Originally Posted by raja_fan
GM: unga velaya paakka dhaan sir indha padatthayae aaramichaen....
Looks like Thamarai is not part of NEPV:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/e...w/12467995.cms
thanks,
Krishnan
லண்டன் ரெகார்டிங் தவிர...
நிழற் படங்கள் மிகவும் நன்றாக வந்து இருக்கின்றன.. கோட் சூட்'ல ராஜா சார் ரொம்ப நல்லா ரிச்சா இருக்காப்ல.. ஆனா அந்த லைட் பட்டு பைஜாமா ஐடியா யார் தந்தான்னு தான் தெரியல. அவ்ளோ நல்லா இல்லை அந்த ரெண்டு போடோஸ். அவரோட வழக்கமான வெள்ளை ஜிப்பாவும் நார்மலா ஒரு புல் பேன்ட் இல்லாட்டி ஜீன்ஸ் போட்ருந்தா டக்கரா இருந்து இருக்கும்.
இளையராஜா குறித்து சில தகவல் துளிகள்!
* இளையராஜாவின் பிறந்த நாளும், கலைஞர் பிறந்த நாளும் ஜூன் 3. இப்போது இசைக்கு வயது 67. வீட்டில்தான் அவரது பிறந்த நாளைக் கொண்டாடுவார்கள். அவருக்கோ, அன்றும் மற்றுமொரு நாளே!
* திருவண்ணாமலைக்கான பயணங்களின் ரசிகர்... வழியே வயலோரச் சிறுவர்களைப் படம் எடுப்பார். அவர்களின் முகவரி கேட்டு, அவர்களுக்கே படங்களை அனுப்பி ஆனந்த அதிர்ச்சியும் தருவார்!
* மூகாம்பிகை கோயிலுக்குப் போய் வந்த பிறகு, அசைவ உணவையும் ஆபரணங்கள் அணிவதையும் நிறுத்திவிட்டார். கழுத்தில் இரண்டு ருத்திராட்ச மாலைகள் உரிமையாகப் புரண்டுகிடக்கும்!
* ராஜாவின் எளிய உணவு காலையில் இரண்டு இட்லி, மாதுளம்பழம் ஜூஸ், மதியம் கொஞ்சம் சாதம், பழம். இரவு இரண்டு சப்பாத்தி. காரம், உப்பு கிடையவே கிடையாது. சைவ ராஜா!
* குளிர் உறையும் வெளிநாடுகளுக்குப் போனாலும் அதே தும்பைப்பூ வேட்டி, ஜிப்பாதான். துபாயின் பிரபல ஹோட்டலில் வேட்டி அணிந்து உள்ளே நுழையத் தடை இருந்தது. அந்தத் தடையைத் தகர்த்துத் தங்கிய ஒரே மனிதர் இவரே!
* நவராத்திரிகள்தான் ராஜா வீட்டு ஸ்பெஷல். மிகச் சிறந்த சங்கீத, இசைக் கலைஞர்களைத் தன் வீட்டுக்கு வரவழைத்து, கச்சேரிகள் நடத்தி ரசிப்பார். நவராத்திரியில் இளையராஜாவின் வீடு இசையால் நிரம்பி வழியும்!
Sri Rama Rajyam Tamil version to be release on 13th April, Tamil New Year treat for IR fans.
News and amalgamation (with some comments) of london recording photos from http://www.firstpost.com/ website:
http://www.firstpost.com/photos/ilay...lm-261645.html
thanks,
Krishnan
http://twitter.com/#!/Raja_Yuvan/sta...77574013108224
Yuvan says he has sung two songs in NEP. One duet and one pathos ( which is in Tamil and Telugu )
kadavule...
Possibility of singer Krish in NEP ?
http://twitter.com/#!/Krrishsinger/s...854464/photo/1
http://twitter.com/#!/Krrishsinger/s...481088/photo/1
Quote:
Originally Posted by krish244
One right (read as commercially viable) film and look at the media mileage. This kind of movie selection is what that was needed. Not just now. but since years.
I think it is more of movie selecting raaja and not the other way.. The people found their way to Prasad studios only now.. All these days he was like a vallalaar saying "Kadayai virithen Kolvaarillai" (meaning shop open no customers).Quote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
Jaiganes
That has been a case anyway. But Raaja saying "Yes" when such a commercially viable opportunity beckoned him is also a matter of important choice right. He has, at times, rejected some of the important/viable films & took up even some of the most ridiculous/irrelevant films. In recent years, Jaganmohini and Kadhal Kathai stand as good examples. Ofcourse, Jaganmohini had couple of good numbers! but imagine, none of his films made news particularly for the importance he was giving for the music - like recording in London. Dhoni managed to make news because Prakash Raj ensured that by constantly talking about Live Recording. Here, Gautham Menon was NOT speaking much about the kind of music, except for posting photographs - which itself are source material for newspapers. Something like this never happened before, atleast after Hey! Ram. Getting him to say Yes for a film is a tricky proposition. Nobody can decode what works in mind in favour or against a film. That explains his weirdest choices of films, right from 80s. Matter of Pure luck for any producer!
// But Raaja saying "Yes" when such a commercially viable opportunity beckoned him is also a matter of important choice right. He has, at times, rejected some of the important/viable films & took up even some of the most ridiculous/irrelevant films. //
Perfect Aakarsh !
I was thinking I am alone here.
IR has changed a lot in the last couple of years - more cheerful , more flexible etc.
While many of the fans here want to project him as an enlightened one who doesn't care about how world views him, I still believe he has become more conscious of his "declining" position in the "market" in the last 10-15 years and that change is for good !
"I still believe he has become more conscious of his "declining" position in the "market" in the last 10-15 years" - This has not prevented me from enjoying many of his works in the past 10-15 years whereas I could care less about many songs of so called commercially successful MDs. Many successful directors have a good sense of music and are able to extract good tunes from MDs. But IR has given hit tunes even otherwise. We will see what happens with this movie.
Kiru,
None of the factors - be it his market position or his choice of films - ever prevented most of us from enjoying his works. So thats a given anyway.
But I am not sure if IR has given "HIT" tunes otherwise. Because a lot of his albums have not been HITs, which ties to the "market position". I am not talking about musical worth (which we all dig in and enjoy), but about pure commerce - the numbers in the market, which dictate the game. I feel it is only fans who enjoy his music and general public enjoy only when the songs are "Hits". I dont know about the environment in Tamil Nadu - but in Andhra Pradesh, Sri Rama Rajyam is a "HIT" album while "Gaayam-2" is not a Hit (comparatively). Gaayam-2 was largely confined to fan-bases while Rama Rajyam captured the whole general audience. And "Om Shanti" was a flop (i mean, general people did not even try it, even after publicizing it as Raaja's music).
In the same way, if I look at tamil Nadu... purely from what I read on social media (hence my opinion might be skewed and incomplete).. i dont think his azhagar Malais, Jaganmohinis, Mathiya chennais, Dhanams & Kannukkules are "Hits" as such (although I liked many songs from all these). A Naan Kadavul *probably* registered among audience. I dont know about Nandalaala. Did it cross fan-base? I felt Valmiki had lot of potential to be a "HIT" but i dont know if it was.. out there in Tamil Nadu.
In Malayalam, again, I have little knowledge. Any idea if Sneha Veedu swept the state, musically? Like Achuvinte Amma (about which I still listen good things from some general-audience-keralites I meet at times).
That brings me to a key question. Which was the last Raaja album that was a super hit... where it impressed not just fans, but general public, media and just about everyone? In telugu, it is Rama Rajyam for sure. In tamil? Is it Oru Naal oru Kanavu (because i see even non-raaja-preference people remembering Kaatril Varum Geethame)?? Just wondering!
Aakarsh,
I can't help again appreciating you for your latest post.
You have nicely put with examples for "hits" versus "fans' favorites".
A film with IR's music is not made for just IR's fans. It is made for general public at large. This is very important. Directors may love IR, we fans may love him, but the public has to love his songs ( I mean the latest ). No way blaming the public for all their deranged music taste etc.
raja_fan,
Thanks! I believe that this GVM film can be a good *luck factor* for raaja. I dont want to say "GVM film is a good opportunity", because I think Raaja's music is more valuable than GVM's film (for me). but then, market forces act differently and for market (producers, stakeholders), it is the opposite. But in all, we have to admit this film has generated excitement and the success of its music will dictate lot of things in the market. If it succeeds spectacularly, chances are that few other producers might want to cash in on that and rope in raaja. heck, even GVM *might* repeat (though he did not repeat ARR) IR in his subsequent films.
Simple statistics: How much of the general audience waited for a valmiki or any of his recent films (except for SRR, Paa)? But now, many people are waiting for this film's music.
If this one clicks, a lot can happen.
Yes.
A lot would have already happened if only IR had welcomed Mani Ratnam and Rajni when they wanted to come back and sought IR's acceptance..
just in case if u r not aware, ARR is doing the music for GVM's next Yohan.Quote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
SoftSword,
I didnt know that. hmm! In that case - Is NEPV a film with raaja's music forming the premise/character in the film? (going by the promos). Curious!
SoftSword,
Yohan is not the right example.
GVM does not wait for one film to be completed, to plan the next.
He multi tasks - NEVP, Yohan and Ek Deewana thaa, all at same time.
I think Yohan was anounced before or more or less same time as NEVP.
raja_fan,
my post was a reply to that as GVM announced Yohan with ARR after VTV.Quote:
Originally Posted by aakarsh
GVM's movie in malayalam after NEPV and Yohan:
http://www.kollyinsider.com/2012/03/...alam-film.html
http://expressbuzz.com/entertainment...od/371099.html
The below site says, music is by ARR.
http://www.kottaka.com/blog/2012/03/...gautham-menon/
Suraj Jagan says about his songs in NEPV:
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tablo...jagan-roll-749
"...“An opportunity of a life time,” is how he describes the recording, for which the background music will be composed in London.
“I’ve no clue how it’s gonna turn out as I could hear only the keyboard pad playing while I was singing,” says the voice behind many jingles including the popular Hutch one, You and I In This Beautiful World..."
thanks,
Krishnan
Interesting way of raaja composition !Quote:
Originally Posted by krish244
aakarsh.. you got a point on "hit" vs "fan's favorites". I guess "hit" is defined in commercial terms and probably dictated by current demographics (more youth in the indian population now) and music trends and access to other sources of music (cable tv, internet etc). A "fan's favorite" would be for listeners who prefer a certain style or genre of music and mostly dictated by the composer's choice of musical instruments, techniques etc. Got it. Only point I have (going by my own personal preference) is that - I am not musically savvy to know raagams or chords. I listen to classical music much less (especially indian). Most songs of IR that I like are usually "hits" . I also like hits from ARR and other MDs. With that in context, I believe, that many recent songs of IR could have been hits if the the movie had succeeded in the box office. I do have doubts on IR appealing to the current young generation with fun/trendy music (which affects his commercial value). But he should be doing fine on neutral/situational and happy songs. With classic rock/jazz (without much electronica/trendy loops etc) style arrangements maybe it will even appeal to the youth. And yes, thanks for conforming that we are all on the same page on the musical value of his work.
True. Thats why, his output is not a question or subject here (barring a kadhal kathai or 1 or 2 albums). His choice of channelling (read choice of films) that output is what the issue is, for me. And that has always been the issue. 70% of his film career is probably characterized by that. I know a composer cannot really have much control on the craftsmanship of a director. But in raaja's case, it appears as if Raaja had complete disregard for where his (gem) song was going. Just an example: Shenbaghame Shenbaghame is such a fine composition, that even Asha Bhonsle quoted it as her best song ever in south films. That song is transported to telugu, to a film called "Aa Okkati Adakku" - a film, that will never be remembered for its music. In tamil, probably half of tamil-nadu will remember that song today. But raaja sacrifices such a gem, to a not-worthy film - a wasted effort. Then, he does the same in Hindi as well, in a film called Mahadev (which has a phenomenal "Dilwale" song). Nobody remembers that song today. My point is - why waste gems like that in such films? or let me flip the question - when you have gems in your kitty, why sign Jaganmohinis and Kadhal Kathais?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiru
I dont know how many raaja fans enjoy Ponmani Theril from Jaganmohini. I thoroughly enjoy it. It is unlike any raaja song actually. If you erase my memory selectively, to remove all traces of Jaganmohini album and play this song afresh.. and if you separate Ponmani Theril into instrumental layers (interludes etc) and vocal layers (melody), I cannot ever say that the instrumental layers are by Raaja. The vocal tracks bear his signatures... but the instrumental stuff in the song resembles closely to a.r.rahman's style (i felt)... and thats amazing... because i think raaja got as much contemporary as possible in that song, with such instrumental portions... and yet, his own signature is all through the song, in its melody. It is amazing song. and he donates it mercilessly to Jaganmohini :-( pch!
Synth use panni sothappama irundha seri. I'm really nervous about this album - I should not be - but I'm.Quote:
Originally Posted by MumbaiRamki
aakarsh,
Nice points. I see the hunger in you and raja_fan that our Maestro should have bigger number of hits (recently). I have only couple of questions. If you say Ponmani ThEril is donated mercilessly to Jaganmohini, what film this song should have been associated to? Even if this song would have featured in bigger hit films, today nobody would have cared to listen even the best of the songs repeatedly (I am excluding the fans here). Take for example VTV/Paa/Sri rama rajyam. I have asked many telugu friends about SRR songs. They were not much interested, just saying it was good, that's it. Every song of these films are gems and a big hit, how many of today's generation like to listen to those again and again, leave alone the fans. Those times are gone. They want new songs every day and as far I know most of them never go back even if the song is one year old, saying that's an old song. That's the sad situation today. That's why I keep telling what is point of giving hit, if it is going to be listened only for few times and trashed. We can only be happy for sometime, ah.. yes that song was hit that time. What's the point? The meaning of "hit' is completely different nowadays compared to yesteryears. No one values good music nowadays. Nowadays the music scenario completely lost its credentials, each day we hear a new music director. Is music making that simple?
If you ask today's young generation about Rajini, they are saying Rajini's best is Thalapathi. When I asked them about MuLLUm Malarum or Bhuavana Oru Kelvikkuri or netrikaN, they don't even have a clue that these films exist. That is understandable, but what irks is they don't even want to search for these films and watch. Sameway I asked some my hindi friends (late 20s and early 30s) about old composers like Naushad or Shankar Jaikishan, they don't even know these composers. They are happy with chamak chalo and kolaveri di. Such is the sad situation.
Another question. Except for Manirathnam whom IR ignored during Iruvar (due to personal reasons), I don't remember IR ignoring any other directors. May be I am missing, if you or anyone please name whom all approached Raja and he declined. If he is accepting Kathal kathai director, imagine how he would have declined any big directors with a good script. Even if Mani was with him till today, you mean to say he will be in the market. I don't think so. Remember other directors and actors like KB, BR, Kamal, Rajini all left him on their own and IR never declined them. Another important aspect which I need to highlight here is there were other successful directors that time like Manivannan, Sunderraajan, RV Udayakumar, RK Selvmani, Balu Mahendra, Mahendran, Rajkiran, Vamsi and many directors either stopped or make very few films nowadays which is also one main reason that the songs didn't reach many. Also many directors of today's generation not even preferring IR or ARR and sticking with new music directors. Just like new music directors are coming, new directors are also born every day. Why they would chose IR, unless they really value good music? Again many producers doesn't want to work with him now that is also another important aspect. So he does go all the way and ignore the directors. It is the other way round happening. That's why I agree with Jai here. It has to happen that way and it happened. That's all. Ellaam poyyindi sir! We are atleast lucky to have grown with his music!
my two cents...:smile:
makkaLE, why pulambal at celebration time :-)
NEPV will be great...kaiyezhuththuppOttu ezhudhiththarREn :-)
Cheer up!
V_S,
As for ponmani Theril - I dont know which film would that song fit into. But i just felt that this song deserved much better film. and if no film can really fit that song, then it would have made an excellent instrumental track, if he really thought about it. It fits into World Music. So why not a World Music album. I mean, if one really thinks... there are endless possibilities... and that too for a composer like him. If there are 2 choices - one where a cylinder-drum-lady is dancing to this song in an obscure film and other where such a composition is from a World Music album by a genius composer, I will pick the latter. and I believe the latter can be marketed much better than the former.
I completely agree with you that the people are now tough beasts to tame. Even one year old song is actually old for them, while a song in 2000 is pretty recent for us (raaja fans). And yes, the meaning of hit is now different. Hit in music is now associated with hit movie only. I am not expecting Raaja to forecast Hits and then allot songs. All i want, for his own image, is to not associate with films such as Kadhal Kathai.
And just one director Maniratnam is not the point of contention here, especially when he makes a film once in 2-3 years (although the exposure raaja gets if he agrees to a Mani's film is more and totally different - which is a different topic). Generally speaking, I'd like a composer of his calibre to not associate himself with tier-2 films. Not completely atleast. I am fine if Nandalaala is a tier-2 film (with no stars and offbeat director). But offlate raaja's films have been completely tier-2 kind. I have written about this earlier - that there is a risk of he being slotted into "Village/town based films" OR "devotional albums" perception, when people start looking at his recent output. Thats why I get excited when he signs up a Paa with Balki or Rama Rajyam with Bapu or this film with NEPV. Ultimately, it is good to have a right mix, in the repertoire.
He has bundles of knowledge. tomorrow, if no good director comes to him (god forbid), it does not mean he should take whichever filmmaker(who makes films like Kadhal Kathai) approaching him. He can instead take a break and channelize all his good compositions to albums like HTNI, NBW.
Vamsee is still making films. No idea why he doesn't take IR. I have heard about few telugu directors (in last 12 years) for whom, Raaja was a choice; but raaja declined. But yes, I get the point what you are saying. There have been more cases of people not approaching him rather than the no. of cases where he declined them. Thats bad luck!!!
again, before people pounce on me with accusation that I am arrogant enough to tell raaja what he should do and what he shouldnt - This is purely the wishful thinking of the fan inside me, who wants Raaja to be selective in signing films so that his image doesn't erode due to his association with some films. Sign films that show some promise (or with promising film-makers or established film-makers who can justify his scores). for everything else, consider instrumental/private albums. I dont want him to retire from films. No. But i am fine even if he does 1 film per year. One remarkable film (or film-maker), which can assure the same respect and market-visibility. I believe he is doing this in Malayalam (in films with Sathyan anikkad).