dhani -> hindustani counterpart of suddha dhanyasi?
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dhani -> hindustani counterpart of suddha dhanyasi?
RR : yes.
here is a list of equivalent ragas in the Carnatic and Hindusthani traditions. http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/RAGA/hc.html
There is one version of Dhani which uses the exact same notes of Shuddha Dhanyasi. The other version also uses the Chatushruti Ri.
Bhimpalasi and Dhani use many of the same notes, but emphases are different...Prabhu Tero Naam is more of a Dhani than a Bhimpalasi.
Some other Hindi songs that fit this Bhimpalasi/Dhani-ish category:
Chaand Maddham Hai - Lata for Madan Mohan in
"Railway Platform"
Maine Chaand Aur Sitaaron Ki - Rafi, N. Datta,
"Chandrakanta"
and the (in)famous
Tu Cheez Badi Hai - Udit, Kavita K., Viju Shah, "Mohra"
Sriram, I thought that might be you! Yes, the Old Hindi Songs thread was fun. The couple of HFM sites that I know of don't have "prabhu tErO naam". Will certainly provide the link if I can find it.
Sanjeev, thanks for those interesting clarifications.
The following also sound Bhimpalasi-ish to me:
Kuch Dil ne Kaha (Anupama)
Nirdayi Preetam (Stree)
'KhilthE hain gul yahaan' is mostly Dhan in that case. I think M2 creeps in , in the charanam in the line 'in lamhon....'.
Nalini, thx for reminding me of 'kuchh dil nE kaha', a stunner. AR Rahman's 'minnalE nee vanthathEnadi..' , has its origin in this song.
Another one in the same lines as 'MainE chaand aur sitarOn', 'HamnE dEkhi hai' from KhamOshi. Both songs touch G3 at a point and one song can be an extension of the other.
Sriram, where are you? Lost your contact info.
Sanjeev, stay with us and share more of your knowledge.
Kuch dhil nE kahaa is one of my all time fves. Have to listen to it again to sense Bhimplasi base.
There was an old old old song by Lata ( can not remember the lyrics) sounding very close to "Kandan Karunai.....", a master piece by Madurai Mani Iyer. Anyone?
Hi Ramji,
Yes, long time!!!! Email me (sriramlak@yahoo.com). Give me the opening lines of the Lata number. Laxmikanth-Pyarelal's 'kOyee nahin hai' (Lata) from Paththar kE sanam shows flashes of Abheri and is impressive.