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Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
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Originally Posted by Punnaimaran
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Regarding, illicit liquor tragedies, at some level, the general public gets all moral 'judges' the victims with 'they had it coming'. But let's get beyond that and chew on some questions:
What is the ownership structure of TASMAC ? Are the stocks procured and distributed by TN government themselves ? I am under the impression that independent contractors own the facilities bid for the license and receive fixed price allotments, with the clause that the sale price is also fixed by the government. They add to their margins by compromising on poor facilities in the outlets and rampant adulteration.Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Most importantly, is the government's revenue directly linked to the volume of sale ? If so, then the persistence of illicit liquor is quite a puzzle. One would expect the government to have dealt with competition brutally. I assumed that the price difference between hooch and lower end TASMAC products - of comparable quality - was minimal. The prevalence of illicit liquor - factoring in the other costs of bribing the police etc. - seems to indicate the difference in price between hooch and its legal equivalent is indeed substantial.
I believe the organized market for liquor is quite open, making price-padding difficult for the brands. The major difference then between TASMAC marketed brands and hooch is tax. If the products are closely priced (i.e. close to the manufacture+ transportation costs etc.) then the price difference, which is driving people to hooch and death, may be the taxes imposed by the TN Government !
But 'sin' taxes are big revenue spinners. In fact TASMAC itself was started as a measure to curb the yawning revenue deficit. Now CPI is asking for TASMAC staff to be made employees of TN Govt - which will dent the revenue deficit once again. That's another story !
How do Pondy and Goa afford to have lower taxes ? If it is by political discipline - then should we say that it is the indiscipline that we are financing by higher taxes and thus illicit liquor deaths ?
Finally, has the IFML promotion drive been at the expense of indigenous liquor in TN. Even in Goa, Fenny - a cashew/coconut based local drink - is cheaper than other branded drinks. Kerala has its toddy shops (does Kerala have illicit liquour deaths?). Has TN's indigenous - less expensive - liquor been suppressed because the government wants to promote 'brands' (kickbacks etc.)
Prabhu Ram sir,
I think TASMAC is doing the retail as well for the last few years.
Though a lot of statistics are old from their official website, this points to a very bleak picture of TN:-(
http://tasmac.tn.gov.in/Turnover.htm
In another page in this website you can see that most districts cross their targets:-(
Look at this page:
http://tasmac.tn.gov.in/brands.htm
What they say on the top is the typical "lip service":-( and hypocrisy to the core!
At the least, they can change their slogan as " அளவுடன் குடித்து வளமுடன் வாழ்க":-)
I live in a little remote (outskirts) area here and I cant find a proper stationary shop in this area, 'have to go 6km to buy a pen/marker....but right across the road from our township there is a wine shop......'can find these within 1km of each other! :roll: :banghead:
"மது நாட்டுக்கு, வீட்டுக்கு, உயிருக்கு கேடு" என்று சொல்லுவதன் மூலம், நம் அரசாங்கம் பகிரங்கமாகவே "நாங்கள் கேடு செய்கிறோம்" என்று ஒப்புக்கொள்வது வேடிக்கை தான்.
பொதுவாகக்குற்றம் செய்பவர்களைக்கண்டிக்கும் / தண்டிக்கும் நீதித்துறையின் கண்ணில் இது படவில்லையா? (கேடு வேறு குற்றம் வேறோ?)
கண்டதுக்கெல்லாம் பொது நல வழக்குப்போடுவோர் இதை எப்படி விட்டு வைத்திருக்கிறார்கள்?
It's one thing to allow sale of a product and insisting on the mfr to inform consumers the risks involved. It's a totally different thing for Govt. itself to engage in such biz and also takes pride in ourscoring targets / increasing sales-revenue etc:-(
When I think more on this Govt. itself selling chArAyam , if properly handled, this could be a good thing. i.e., if they work on progressively reducing the consumption, by rationing / limiting etc. (which may not be possible if privatized). Things like selling to only those of proper age (and can prove identity) and again only so much per month etc could be a better way of managing this product. That may be the next best thing to total prohibition. However, the current implementation seems to be the opposite, encouraging TASMAC to exceed its targets and make more people alcoholics:-(
Thanks for the links app_engine. The site is pretty informative.
Almost all districts exceeding their monthly targets comfortably !
Nilgiris - the coldest of our districts - is the only laggard !!
Really curious to know about the way targets are determined. A fixed percentage of the population ? Or, in some way, the traditional liquor consumption propensity of the area is factored in ?
Dunno which one to hope for actually ! :-) :-(
With such 'serious' business drive I am wondering how there hasn't been that much commitment in eradicating hooch. Should we brush it under typical monopoly attitude. Good enough profits, so minimal efforts to go over and above. If the police were being paid off by private shop owners (or the group of licensed sellers) would they have had a better drive to eradicate illicit liquor ? Dunno.
Prohibition is out of question. I have my doubts about the efficacy of advocating abstinence.My take on social/medical problems caused by addiction is a little softer than the problems of illicit liquor Methanol blindness and death.
How does Kerala work with its toddy shop network ?