Global recognition for IR's music.......

Fliflo, all that "emotional bgm" may mean a lot to you and me, but it is nonsense in the commercial world of cinema. the bottom line is that IR is being used as a low budget alternative.
Secondly, we are not (atleast I am not) comparing IR's and ARR's musical capabilities. we are only comparing their marketing and selling skills/associations. In that sense, ARR is the bhishma, and IR is like ekalavya having lost his thumb.

Why all this ruckus? let IR be a sage, as long as he is happy and we can enjoy his music? Well if he gets the recognition and backing he deserves, we the fans can get astounding releases eclipsing TiS. Beethoven's works won't be as popular today if he was broke and playing fiddle at a local pub.

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Originally Posted by irir123

I dont buy that - he must be having/nurturing big dreams even now, but somehow his strange self-imposed restrictions are playing truant with his musical aspirations!

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no doubt he had great aspirations, to succeed from his humble beginnings to make it big in cinema. he would not have been able to do that if he wasn't able to associate with the right people or didn't know how to sell himself. but he seems to have forgotten that now.

Somehow I feel that IR started as a daring youth, and became a sober old man, completely missing healthy middle-age. imo he should tone down his extreme "devotional" attitude to regain that youth.

ananth222 - its our collective selfishness that we want IR to come out with more creative albums! but if IR choses to remain content with what he is doing, then there is nothing either you or me can do about it!

as I said, its entirely upto him - having said that, it still rankles/bothers me deeply that such a fine piece of work as TiS was so badly mishandled by Fr.Jegath and co - manidhargalai ganippadhil andha alavukku koodavaa IRukku mudhirchi illaamal poivittadhu ?

No fliflo... ,my points are not abt a particular Mysskin project. or they are not about comparing it ARR's success (about which, i think it is good...). Thats why i specifically said "within IR's music domain". My point is about approach towards making his own music available to one and all, in a more professional manner.Especially when his music has the capability to attract the attention of larger circle (say..the west). I dont mean "He should lobby for it". But he can just do the music in his way and just ensure that it is properly reaching the audience.

Tell me, of what use is the BGM of Hey! Ram? Yes, it suited the film. But how many saw the film?And how many heard the score? and what about Lajja? could he procure the rights of his own work and release it on good label?
Now Ilaiyaraaja is a big name in India. would any music label, shy away from marketing IR's work with good taglines such as "An Authentic Symphony score for OST"? Mind you, we already have something like "Elizabeth - The Golden Age" soundtrack on music stands today, because the music is by ARR and it is available despite the film bombed.

Let me remind another height of unprofessionalism. Tell me the name of track in "How to Name it?", which is set in Maayamaalavagowla raaga? The tracklisting of 'How to name it?' has always been infamously controversial, because they goofed it up. Such a colossal piece of work and no proper track-listing.

His RPO symphony is an achievement. But do we have it? forget a good label..atleast on echo music?

I am an IR fan and i like his music. But it pains to see some of the greatest tracks lying in some cans somewhere.

Nice posts irir and raagas

What saddens me is that while Yuvan can release his KK,7GRC and PP soundtracks in the CD format, why not Raja? It doesn't matter how big the label should be but they must be released. I think the people surrounded him aren't doing their jobs or afraid to suggest him anything. KR had a plan of opening up an MP3 site to sell Raja's soundtracks online, don't know what happened to that project? I strongly believe either KR/Yuvan should talk to his father and move forward. That is the only way out IMO.

my thoughts.
Right now whatever be the greatness of raaja, there is a perception that he wont do Rap, hip hop cool mixing and all sorts of new music styles :roll:
He too doesnt want to do this thing. That is why he called up mysskin and asked if his project is on.
A director friend of mine is scouting for a music director for his film and i asked him why not raaja?
The answer is that the subject is not good enough for Raaja;s music
So Raaja for the first time in life is free from doing ' oorgaais and appalams.
Thats a good thing. But he is getting this time when he is 65 +
while others are young and having the energy to go wherever opportunities take them to. So there is no grudge here.
As far as his priorities, I dont care what it might be. It could be even to compose thamizh nursery rhymes doesn;t matter.
Yet some young director from hindi wanted to give him the warner brothers hindi movie SRK to him. why? and did raaja reject that offer - no.
So I feel that we should popularise his volume of work in our own small way and see what comes out of it. More than anything else we need to see that Raaja style of music is never forgotten - for it is a unique way of looking at what is music. In this regard I appreciate what irir is doing right now.

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Originally Posted by irir123

MumbaiRamki - is IR such a poor judge of people after being in the field for more than 30 years, that he decided to associate with people like Fr.Jegath ??

I just dont get it!

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Well , i don't know sir . Im just totally confused with what happend during TiS ( One of ardent fans in US called me then and explained his angush over getting cheated by IR , but then the whole thing is a mess- Yahoo groups as usual closed it without any proper explanation those who gave the money to Tis) ..

He might be a poor judge , his 30 years in field is not in business , but music . Also it depends on JUDGE OF WHAT ?
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More then HeyRam, Lajja was amaster Piece - its the best i have heard in many many years, wonder why it was not released !!!!!! yes, Raaja lives in his own shell , we can't do anything abt it !!!!

koootama poi raaja veetula udane katchi aarambingannu sollalaama? ;-)

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Yet some young director from hindi wanted to give him the warner brothers hindi movie SRK to him.

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Don't get carried away by names like "Warner Bros" these days.
Nowadays any body who knows he can get 100Rs profit in one project puts his money in it.
So "Warner Bros" does not make SRK any big.

You will soon see "Warner Bros" putting their money in some silly Tamil movies too :)