vincent r u a very humerous person?i can see that in this thread
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vincent r u a very humerous person?i can see that in this thread
Change the topic to "Whore is as good as Wife"
how evil.... But Deva did rule certain years of 90s by copying IR style of Music.
poRumai...poRumai....Quote:
Originally Posted by vickyvichu
Upto today totally 29 votes been polled. Out of them 18 for IsaingAni and 11 for ThEnisai thenRal. So it is proved one third of hubbers accept it. But neenga solrapadi pArthaal all 29 votes must be put for IR.
So, neenga vAnathukkum boomikkum kudhikkirathu arththam illainnu AyiduchA.
Neenga solrapadi irundhaal, Deva should be disappeared within one or two years, otherwise within 5 to 10 movies. But for several years he was having more number of movies in hand, than any other MDs.
After 'EjamAn' and 'UzhaipALi' no Rajini producers approach IR. Why?. After that Deva done three for Rajini and all the three (AnnAmalai, Batcha, ArunAchalam) were big hits. How?. Kamal also used him in some, like Avvai Shanmugi, Pammal K.sambandham etc, and enjoyed the success.
I am not asking you to accept Deva as equal to IR. But some of the hubbers here not even to accept Deva knows something about music. Whether they accept or not accept, Deva is survining in market more than 15 years, without break with handful of movies.
Dont measure anybody's work with howmany National Awards they get. Infact, MSV also did not get any National Award and Shivaji also. Can anybody tell MSV does not know music and Sivaji is not an actor?.
The 11 votes are not by Deva fans or common unbiased music lovers. They are ARR fans. I cant imagine someone is so senseless and blind to open this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_karthik
"The 11 votes are not by Deva fans or common unbiased music lovers. They are ARR fans. I cant imagine someone is so senseless and blind to open this thread."
My vote goes to IR and I am an ARR fan (people who know me call me a strong ARR fan). There is NO way you can compare IR and Deva though. Indeed, as in NJV's words, the former is really the sun while the latter is the moon. It is a travesty to have only 18 say no. Now it is 19. I hope more unbiased fans vote to give the true real picture (that IR is incomparable).
That said, Deva is good in his own right. He has composed many good songs but he will never be IR.
I strongly Object this! The creator of this thread is a HC Deva fan & 1 more guy is there named sudalai who is also a Deva fan, I am sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Music4Ever
From our side I am confident, none of the ARR fans would have stepped the poll even by mistake.
Music4ever & njv!, Do you want me to create another poll to prove this! This thread is almost dead, Why a HC IR fan has to re-activate it.
Many of them claim they are HC ARR fans :lol: Good!
Scale dude, don't misquote me. It was NJV who said what you have quoted. Apart from that I don't know what you are talking in your post. If you doubt my support for ARR all you have to do is read my other posts which should be quite easy.
Music4Eever,
Do not waste your time explaining your identity to these people because they are very busy proving their man is the hero and all other MDs are zero at any cost!(I am not particular about anyone)
I have been regular visitor for the past 4+ years (even though i do not post often) and know you well as a Rahman fan even before some of these Senior hubbers (!) started out to post. No offence to them.
vincent is a very humorus person (another Seniour hubber, if you check profile! - Moderator, should quantity of posts decide these titles?!). He was starting quite bunch of similar threads months ago(YSR > ARR, HR > ARR, Deva >= IR..i am not sure of the exact equations he started as threads) and he is too busy somewhere out there in another thread!
my two cents for this meaningless yet interesting thread: Just because funny guy vincent stated such an idiotic comparison, we should not insult Deva. Even though he lifted a lot, he did make some nice melodies("Gokulathil Seethai", "Ennasai Machan" for instance). Also he was the main competitor in the latter part of IR and early years of ARR.
M4e dude!,Quote:
Originally Posted by Music4Ever
Oops! Why do u all (shankar,u & someothers) alter the default quoting message format. It's confusing who quoted what?
I reiterate, none of the ARR fans would have voted it. Every ARR fan is a big admirer of IR and have high regards to him. We are not dim-witted to compare him to deva by voting the poll. :(
Thats my point! :D
Pls stop posting. Let this thread die 8-)
Please add some more like:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kumanan
kAthal kOttai
ninaithEn vandhAi
kannethirE thOdrinAL...... somany.
In 1990, Deva got Cinema Express award for best MD, for Vasantha kAla paravaigaL, pudhu manithan. These selection is not by four or five persons like National Award. Its purely by polling votes by public, throughout Tamil Nadu. Atleast for that year people accpted he is better than IR.
Why I was posted such comment in my previous posting is, because that guy vickyvichu is not even to accept Deva as a man. (accepting him as a MD is another thing).
Scale dude, in future please read posts carefully before jumping on someone.
Kumanan, thanks for your support. Nice to know there is at least one person out there who thinks I am ARR supporter :) However, I also regard IR as one of TFM's all-time best, although I much relish the music of MSV and ARR.
music4ever, i dunt think anyone needs to xplain here to anyone that whose fan is he......their statements are enuf to identify their mindset.....so i dunt think u need to xplain to scale that u r a ARR fan....
however, u shuld also know that there were threads "Vidyasagar is as gud as ARR" and YSR vs HJ vs ARR.....i think it was more condemnable than this thread( given that u r a ARR-fan), where there was no trace of u.....insult to ARR is as big as insult to IR.....
MADDY, there you go without really understanding the import of my post. NJV's post cast some aspersions on ARR fans and I felt justified to reply that not all his assertions are correct. And to prove that I cast my vote in favor of IR. Otherwise I do not involve myself in this voting business. That should explain why I have not replied to other posts comparing ARR to other current MDs.
IR's achievement, IMO, is beyond cavil. Thirty years of significant achievement is not something to be scoffed at. Very few, if any, can match him.
Superabbu, Superabbu, there stands IR :thumbsup: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Music4Ever
back then he didnt have much competition as he has now!!!! only magazines praises him and the very old generation, the young generation celebrates ARR.
This is one more Accusation thrown on IR's supremacy in TFM. Well i belive there was competition from SG, CB on a big scale and there were people like SAR, devendran, VSnarasimhan, Adithyan, deva and many more obscure composers who wre trying hard to break even. But IR's Aura was such magnificient that nobody was able to outcast him. Until another brilliant composer like ARR stepped in to give a stiff competition and was able to gain supremacy over IR after a brief stalling time.Quote:
Originally Posted by interz
You cant be always saying that just because IR didnt have competition he was the winner in other words i see IR was the best who was able to over power his competitors. Still he is revered among critics and tamizh makkal as the only all time best composer proves his caliber.
wAit wait!! Oh my goodness...what a topic...it is like comparing "Thayir vadai" desigan to N.S.K
After MSV's movies (& hits) reduced to a great extent, and S-G mostly doing remakes of Hindi songs (or remakes of Raja songs), it was TR's songs which were reverberating through out TN...Infact, TR's songs were as much popular as ARR songs later in TN (as an alternative to IR).
Even if we exclude OTR (which outshone most IR songs of that year) as a combo effort with AA Raj & things like that, RP & UU made his music immensely popular...and so was the `julie I love you' song...
One of my classmates, a HCIRF, used to remark that he hears as many times TR songs of just one album in public (tea shop, bus, functions etc) as IR songs from many albums. Though limited in his range and prolificity, TR was one competition to IR for a while...
Deva, while scoring for many movies and had his share of hit songs, never had a single album (other than his Rajinikanth ventures probably) reverberate everywhere in TN like the TR stuff...that's probably one reason why he faded out fast...
TR could have become a true competitor to IR had he not gone mad - putting his hand in everything, including politics...just sticking to lyrics & music would have earned him more name & fame IMO...
//digression
app-engine...neenga peoplesoft expert-a?
Another collegemate from Trichy always used to recall a student event or youth event where there was light music competition and IR was the judge...it seems almost every troop played `vAsamillA malaridhu' (big rage of the year and easy for stage teams to play too)....mughaththil ee AdAmal IR utkArndhirundhadhAga avan adikkadi kooRuvAn (especially ennai veRuppEththa)...
I think IR dominance come to an end after Annamalai success.Till that point no one willing to take the risk of moving away from IR.
As some one rightly said after ANNAMALAI success,Rajini confidently gave BASHA/ARUNACHALAM to deva. They switched over to ARR from Deva but not willing to come back to IR.
ROJA/GENTLEMAN did most of the damage (we should accept the fact) and ARR wave started. Rest is history.
uma ramesh
But 'Thayirvadai' Desikan got 13 votes (out of 37 polled). This itself a big insult to your modern NSK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beckham
Romba romba aniyamunga edhu..... :oops: :o
I think all IR bashers will have a nice time in this thread ! as they can post all their negative views on IR here...
I wish to just enjoy reading all the postings here without commenting
:o
Wish to mention only one aspect about Deva... I have seen him conducting light music programmes in Mylapore Luz corner during Ganesh Chathurthi and other special days.
From a very modest beginning, he rose to give some good hits.
Annaal dhayavuseidhu dont compare him with IR and invite the rage of IR disciples !!
:banghead: :evil: :twisted: What about Ejaman, Thalapathi, Veera (After muthu) were super duper musical hits, came after Annamalai.Quote:
Originally Posted by umaramesh
What a stupid posting. The great credit goes to only ARR. ARR is the MD to break IR domination. But this does not mean ARR or Dava good as IR.
Yaroda yara compare bannurathunae vivasthaiyae illaiya.
IR is a SUN and Dava is a moon. Think the light of Moon without Sun.
Dear Sanjeevi...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanjeevi
This is what life is all about ! I think you are now getting a taste of your OWN MEDICINE . I remember , earlier you questioned about the capabilities of another legend MSV and you also mentioned that he copied from Hindi movies !
What turmoil MSV had to undergo when IR was at his best...now IR has to undergo against the current generation.... Probably ARR may come close to IR but no one can match IR ....thats for sure...
best regards
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Dear Balaji,Quote:
Originally Posted by S.Balaji
Once I questioned about MSV only based on soem heard matters. But i accept MSV is a true legend. MSV, IR and ARR are the legends and we should proud.
But comparing a third rated (2nd rated?) MD like Deva with IR is cheap taste.
Thanks
change the topic to "DEVA IS AS GOOD AS IR's ASS"
hehe
:D
digression...
Beckham / Sridhar, sariyAna kaNdupidippu ayyA:-)
end-digression
Deva is much better than IR atleast Deva never rips off any one for his own selfish motives. The only thing deva rips is some ones music.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Vysar
Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
where is Deva and Ilayaraja in 2005???????
Nowhere near to Mds like ARR, HJ, YSR
where is shivaji ganesan in 80's...nowhere near kamal and rajni...so will u say shivaji is inferior to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by interz
be sensible plz
"Deva is much better than IR atleast Deva never rips off any one for his own selfish motives. The only thing deva rips is some ones music"
tso..tso...vaayila kai vecha kadikka theriyaadhu paavam deva-vukku.
He has made a career of ripping off others' songs and notes for his personal gain - and oyu have the temerity to suggest that he is a musician and a gentleman - vaazhga ungal objectivity and biasless judgement. **snigger**.
Still searching for big hits from ILayaraja and Deva in 2005, hard to find!!!!
:rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
IR is FAR better!
Sorry guys, it aint funny! :evil:
the most funny topic of tfm page........Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinthiya