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Harris Jayaraj waxed and waned with his music for VV. I had a headache after watching Ghajini due to the noisy background score.. the same feeling comes here.. too noisy at times.. and subtle at times..
Looks like Harris needs to improve a lot in that area. Karka, Paartha mudhal (suttum vizhi hangover) and Manjal veyyil sounds pleasing to listen.. the other two songs are unnecessary.
Renault,
Beg to differ! What sort of BGM you expect for a action movie :)
For a soft romantic movie like 'Minnale' he did extremely well!!
But fr BGM Harris is not on top 5 defly!
This is mainly because he is getting addicted to his numerous violins raising the sound stuffs which are :x sometimes. But I don't think he had not committed any blunder in VV. Infact, his BGM impressed me more than some of the songs :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Renault
and as far as the songs is concerned,
I prefer
1. Karka Karka (slow beats are cool indeed)
2. Paartha mudhal naalae ( every newly married couple will go crazy over this song :thumbsup: )
3. Manjal veyyil (Nice beats that changes rapidly) :D
Infact Neruppae song was good. But since it had been used for the baddies, people might not like it ! But it was awesome
I didn't like "uyirilae" picturisation ! That song was awesome ! But GM had failed here ! some of the scenes in this songs looks incomplete
Overall - HJ can survive more number of years if GM prefers him all the time !
"Overall - HJ can survive more number of years if GM prefers him all the time !"
That sounds funny, Selva Sir. Gautam has directed only 3 movies, while Harris did 16 projects other than Gautam's. Not all were BO hits, but musical hits. HJ can survive even if Gautam does not hire him.
buvana, with regards to TFM, partnerships are very important. HJ has very little sustaining partnerships and he needs them to kind of market his capabilities time and again to new/other producers and directors.
His sustaining partnerships are only with Goutam and Jeeva. While Yuvan has quite a few like Ameer, Selvaraghavan, Vishnuvardhan, Simbu, etc.
HJ certainly needs Goutam's support for much more bigger and interesting projects to show his versataility.
Sanguine Sridhar, point well taken, but he probably need to know where silence is required and where only subtle noises should be there. but the overall bgm effort waskind of improved after his noisy bgm effort in Ghajini.
Renault, understood. What I meant is HJ is by now established and does not need any intro. Also, he is not dependent on any director taken alone. Whichever director he works for, the songs somehow click. As you said " bigger and interesting projects" , he takes up only bigger and interesting projects, be it Gautam or someone else. It is highly unlikely that Gautam Harris would part ways as they are great buddies.
His bgm effort in Thotti Jeya was also so bad. When I was watching the movie, I was reminded of Vivek's commedy in a movie (I forgot the name) in which he had a vision to record oppari and taking it to global :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Renault
Harris is the king!
By Moviebuzz | Friday, 06 October , 2006, 10:39
Last week there was an informal get-together of Tamil music company bosses. They had met to discuss about the alarming drop in the sales of audio cassettes due to rampant piracy and downloading of music.
At the meeting, A.R.Rahman came in for sharp criticism as they felt that he has lost his magic touch as far as Tamil film music goes. The sales of his audios, notably new titles like Godfather and Sillunu Oru Kadhal has been lukewarm.
Yuvan Shankar Raja too came in for criticism for doing too many remixes of his dad’s tunes and being repetitive. This year none of his albums except for Vallavan is selling!
At the same time, they were praising Harris Jayaraj for the music of Vetayadu Vilayadu and its audio sales. This audio has broken the record created last year’s Ghajini and Anniyan both from Harris.
So far Vetayadu Vilayadu has sold 85,000 audio cassettes and 60,000 CD’s across India. It is phenomenal achievement as the audio industry is in the dumps. In fact, the music industry feels that Vetayadu Vilayadu is such a huge hit only due to Harris’ music.
All the audio companies were unanimous that Harris Jayaraj is the King of Tamil cinema music. His plus points are that he does not take too many assignments and there is something new in each album.
By mid-november, Pachai Kili MC audio will be out and buy mid-december, Bheema audio..
THOTTI JAYA's BGM was soooo awesome I thought !! :roll: :? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJudge
Read this article - HJ interview in Kungumam last week edition..
You will find it on page 88
http://www.dinakaran.com/dncgibin/ku...2006/oct/22/88
One more project with Director Jeeva..
http://www.behindwoods.com/tamil-mov...eyam-ravi.html
Harris rocks
Harris Jayaraj seems to have emerged the undisputed king of Tamil film music, for the second consecutive year. Last year, if it was the "Ghajini" album that topped the charts and ring tones, this year, it is "Vetaiyadu Vilayadu". Over 1.5 lakh audio and CDs of the album have been sold and the `Manjal Veyil... ' song is the number one ring tone of the year — an achievement at a time when the audio industry is in the dumps! In Andhra Pradesh too, the audio of "Sainikudu" has become a hit even before the release of the film. Today, Harris is able to make a film get an opening just on the strength of his music. Watch out for "July Katru", Harris' new album (of the Jeeva-directed film), which has peppy songs that are sure to rock.
SREEDHAR PILLAI
(From The Hindu - November 02, 2006)
http://www.hindu.com/mp/2006/11/02/s...0200880500.htm
I guess this article is just to promote his upcoming album... Gajini and VV got good opening coz of his music...funny.. Infact Gajini songs became a hit only after it was viewed on the screen.. Also what has the ringtone downloads got do with the audio sales???..Strange..
What is funny ? Do you disagree that Suttum and Oru Maalai became hits and ranked in audio charts (FM channels in India & countries like Sing and Malaysia) before movie release ? And Manjal Veyyil and Partha Mudhal as well ? These VV songs stayed more longer in the charts though the movie was unduly delayed. Dont you think these paved way for the high expectations? There were enough evidence in the mags and other media sources. Very few would accept as some lentils do not cook in any type of pressure cookers...Quote:
Originally Posted by ansa400
My point is that we've to give due credit to the picturisation as well. Suttum vizhi and Oru malai sounded normal b4 the film released..only after we saw the picturisation that we started to appreciate the song better,,, it was surya's new look and kamal-goutham combo in Gajini and VV respectively that pulled the crowd to the theatres...no the songs..
I am not saying that the movies' credit should fully go to Harris. Gautam and Murugadas both did justice to his songs. Plus cinematography and many other things have to be given credit. But claiming that songs did not at all have a part to play is absurd, in my opinion. Your verdict as songs 'normal' before film released - I think you should be fair enough in your judgement. Songs of Ghajini and VV raised layman's expectations as to "wonder how they would have picturised this song " . Even I had, and even you must have. But for eg. if you take song like that of Thiruvilayaadal arambam or any other mediocre album, you wont say " I am eager to watch this movie.. etc" . You may not believe, these songs were so popular even before movie release, that school kids danced for talent search competitions with steps taught by dance tutors; betrothel and wedding and birthday celebrations had these repeatedly on high volumes in the void decks of the buildings ; and also we could hear these from the neighbouring seats in trains (audio cd players)while travelling to office.
suttum vizhi sudare paatu padam vantha pin than hit aachu... !!!
ghajini was considered as a letdown by Hj .... . picturisation than main reason.. gajini songs hit aaga :roll:
paartha mudhal naale and the rest of VV songs were a straight away hit ! :cool:
villain, that could be the case in TN, I am not aware how the response was when audio released. But here and inMalaysia, right from day 1 of audio release of Ghajini, no stopping of it in radios and home systems.. the most sought after songs. I agree songs like Xmachi and Rahatulla did not fare well here. But Rangola joined the hit list here. May be tastes of society matters...Quote:
Originally Posted by villan007
As far as Ghajini songs are concerned, the only songs that captivated the audience much before the movie release was "oRu maaLai iLaveyiL neRam"
Music lovers found 'Suttum Vizhi sudarae' interesting. But ordinary lovers got addicted to the first one. IMO, Apart from these two songs, none of the other songs fared well. After the movie release, the first one took a back seat and SVS took the lead
in the latest telugu album..sainikudu
almost all songs are inspired from any previous ARR song
ppl. just dont give a damn...... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kb
infact i'm happy that Harris is continuing ARR's style of music...... 8-) ....so as long as Harris is there ARR's trend wil continue.....
Ya Maddy Well said, Guys leave him Inspire and Clone from Him, As we don't have ARR albems more, after him i am only heard HJ songs mostly and YSR some of Time.
True, indeed. If we see, both ARR and HJ update their studios with latest possible technology in audio products.. This also becomes a reason for the similarity we find in the interludes and preludes, the sound effects, apart from the scale/raaga used, and in the final output as well. Besides, HJ himself admires ARR a lot, no wonder the inspiration. Recently, Euphonix Media Controller made use of in audio engg. has been installed in HJs studio, as recently as 1st week of Oct. There was a press release also. Any idea whether ARR also went for it ? May be ARR fans who are closely known to him will be able to tell us... Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MADDY
buvana, but this is in no way a justification for HJ's continuing of ARR's trend........he shuld have broken ARR's trend and created a new one.....that wud have been ideal........infact, now, with HJ not having that much fans, and still his music sells, shows that ppl. clearly like the trend more which is anyday ARR's..........Quote:
Originally Posted by buvana
buvana, btw, ARR has long moved out of that trend and now he sounds so different from his olden days.....the diff in HJ and ARR now is huge bcos ARR keeps on changing his style......he, as usual, stands out from the crowd, good or bad........ :D
HJ should do something unique, something that ARR hasnt done b4..........i guess he can........
true maddy.... HJ do not have any dedicated fans like that of IR or ARR or for that matter even YSR......... Even in this TFM forum, so much activity is in IR/ARR/YSR's threads only and a very few only come to HJ's thread (appadi varavanga kooda thitrathukku, kindal panrathukku than varanga :) athu vera vishayam), HJ is not media's darling too (except that of Sify's).....still his music sells ....coz the neutral ppl who matter the most for an audio success loves HJ's music...... they may not like HJ himself but still most of them love HJ's movies and music......
HJ seems to have been lucky with his choice of movies recently, thats about it. When his movies do average business like Thotti Jaya no one bothers about the songs. But when VV or some other movie becomes a hit and if the songs are picturized well then the sales pick up. Even HJ admitted that Anniyan sales was pretty luke warm before the release of the movie and that he was waiting for the movie to be released so that the sales can pick up. Atleast he is being candid :-)
Paartha mudhal naaLe drives me nuts every time it comes on TV. A nursery rhyme set to a OP Nayyar-Tonga rhythm-picturization was pretty underwhelming too. And this song is a "hit"? Blame it on the movie doing well
:exactly: Well... to take HJ as a serious topic for discussion, you have to assume that the stuff he is composing is music, which is preposterous IMO. So, no comments :tongueout:Quote:
Originally Posted by vijayr
but everyone seems to love it na @ vijayr and VV audio was a hit much before the film was released...... :)
even i hate VV songs (songs are good but not great) compared with other HJ songs but the fact is it is a bigger hit than many of the other albums
which means ppl. like the trend/style of music......and subras, i dont think its anyone else's other than ARR's....... :D ......Quote:
Originally Posted by rsubras
Maddy, I dont think it is clear-cut to say he does not have that much fans. From what I gather, his fans write to him, get reply, some even land up at his studio, some go to the extent of calling him at residence.. In one of my previous posts, I had written that my friend's distant relative is working in his troupe. The fans number may not outnumber that of ARR, but still there is a fan-following for him.
rsubras, when HJ fans post anything in HJ releases, it is usually refuted, bashed stating reasons like copying, inspirations., etc. etc.. half way it ends up fighting.. So far media is concerned, he gets max media coverage, i should say. Not only Sify, tamil mags like Kungumam, Kumudam, Vikatan, dinamalar paper, The Hindu.. we see these regularly. Sometimes I feel HJ got more attention among people just because of the interviews in these mags.
vijayr, you are right, but TJ was not marketed properly and Simbu did not care for its picturisation and publicity, due to tussle between him and Thanu.
in HJ's recent albums,
oru malai ilaveyil from gajini is fantastic fast paced melody. very good lyrics and picturisation.
manjal veyil is enjoyable number. such an energetic song. really very good song. hariharan sung very well.
"partha naal mudhal" has lovely picturisation and lyrics. but tune? :roll: it is copied from christian song "iyesu azhaikkintrar".
the same tune. already i heared that song. in suriyan FM also they clearly told this.
Best song of HJ is "o... maname" from ullam ketkume.Lovely song.
i think HJ consistently giving 2 good melody numbers in every film that overpowering other numbers in the same film.
He is consistently giving good melody numbers. that is fact. but he is getting more recognition than what he deserves IMHO. that is because of his films are always mega HITS .
I have said this b4.
Harris is not as talented as an ARR or gifted as an IR.. but his packaging of a song is excellent. I liked some of his ordinary songs like Rangola (Ghajini) and Sikki Mukki (VV).
Yes, Paartha Mudhal is a lazy attempt by Harris to copy a devotional song.. that brings down his repertoire a bit.
No kidding.. I was just thinking yesterday that the tune sounded like that of an usual christian devotional song and now you are telling me that it was actually lifted?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by vasanth2006
Suttum vizhi chudare's sandham from "twinke twinkle little star"
and now this from a Christian devotional song. Great going.
Which supports my observation that HJ depends more on the marketing/publicity/picturization than on his own abilitiesQuote:
Originally Posted by buvana
vasanth2006,
After seeing your post, I located `pArtha nAL mudhal' in youtube and listened to it.
Well, it could be inspired by some protestant devotional...but definitely not the `yEsu azhaikkiRar' song...which was kind of a theme song for DGS Dhinakaran & Co...and got aired in radio/TV quite many times . That is not this...
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FYI, vijayr is not a ARR fan.......moreover, no one is constipated with HJ's success here........infact we are feeling proud that ARR's trend is still winning..........as long as HJ stays ARR's trend stays which is ideal for us....Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
but in a musical forum, his pluses and minuses have to be discussed.......theres nuthin wrong in that........
Paartha mudhal naaLe has "good rhythms"? !! Aandava!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
Thats the rhythm that comes inbuilt with those cheap $100 entry-level keyboards
Unni Meno's singing is even duller than his compering in SunTV. Cant blame him entirely though,as the tune is non-existent.
Uyirile,by comparison, has some life to it,atleast in parts
I have definitely learned to live with the "success" of HJ as much as I have learned to live with the standards of current TFM,by not bothering to give most of these songs a second listen. Although I sometimes find it difficult to escape from them on TV
app_engine,Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Actually my friend is a christian. he has this song in one cassette.
actually he told that this fellow(HJ) is inspiring many tunes from christian songs. i told him that show me one proof. then he played this song.i am sure that the pallavi's tune is same. FYI, in suriyan FM also, in the chinna thambi periya thambi programme, they sung this christian song.
but i am not sure that this christian song has only one version of tune. there may be many versions of tune.
(p.s: that song is `yEsu azhaikkintrar' not `yEsu azhaikkiRar' )
anyway Good Melody.