Learning Tamil, My experiences: continued

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Originally Posted by skanthan

Please tell me how to say these phrases in Tamil.

to stand - nil

(pure tamizh = colloquial tamil)

I stood = naan nindrEn = naan ninnEn
You stood = nee nindraay = nee ninne
You (respetive) stood = neengaL nindreergaL =neenga nineega
He stood = avan nindraan = avan ninnaan
She stood = avaL nindraaL = ava ninnaa
He/She(respetive) stood = avargaL nindraargaL = avanga ninnaanga

We stood = naam nindRom = naama ninnOm
They stood = avargaL nindraargaL = avanga ninnaanga

I will stand = naan niRpEn.= naan nippEn
You will stand = nee niRpaay = nee nippE
You (respective) will stand = neengaL nirpeergaL = neenga nippeenga

He will stand = avan nirpaan = avan nipaan
She will stand = avaL niRpaaL = ava nipaa
He/She (respective) will stand = avarvaL niRpaargaL = avanga nipaanga.

We will stand = naam niRpom = naama nippom
They will stand = avargaL niRpaargaL = avanga nipaanga

akkaa, rajraj, Raghu etc..

oru naaL naan nalla thamizh pEsuvEn! naan thamizh katRukkondavudan, naan ellaa thamizhargaLukku thamizh mattumE pEsuvEn. At least to to those who understand Tamil.(I do not know how to say this last sentence in Tamil)

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ur sentence translated in pure tamizh and then in C- tamizh

pure tamizh
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oru naaL naan nandraaga tamizh pEsuvEn. Nana tamizh katrukkondavudan, ellaa thamizhargaLudanum thamizh mattumE pesuvEn. kuRainthapatcham thamizh purinthavargaLudan thamizh mattumE pesuvEn.

c. tamizh
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oru naal naan nalla thamizh pesuven. thamizh kathukitta piragu, ella thamizh karanga kittaiyum thamizh mattum thaan pesuven. kuranjathu thamizh purinjavanga kitta mattumavathu thamizh thaan pesuven.

:)

good luck.

Okay akka! akka! akka! Let's stick with the common Tamil that is spoken and understood by everyone!!!!!

done skan.

Hi akka,

It looks like the Tamil which I had been learning from Shanthi is kind of a mixed Tamil with words from colloquial Tamil mixed with words from Pure Tamil, Sanskrit and some slang etc.. I rememberr hearing from her and others that there is different ways of saying the same thing in Tamil. ie: For understand, there is theriyum. theriyagiRadhu, puriyum, puriyagiRadhu etc, etc, etc.. I would get sooo confused hearing these different words. Because, I do not know which words to use or what is the commonly used terms. :huh: Sorry if I sounded like I blew my fuse on you last post! :oops:

skanthan: To start with learn pure Tamil that is taught with a text book. If you learn both pure(formal) and colloquial Tamil at the same time you will be confused. When you become very proficient in conversational Tamil (pure) you can start learning colloquial Tamil.

Shakthi: Why don't we save colloquial Tamil for later?

seri, rajraj! Conversational Tamil is good. enakku katRukodungaL!

"kaRukodutthu!" does not make sense, SN! :)

"enakku kaRRu kodungaL (or) enakku kaRRu thaarungaL, please?" would be polite!

nanRi, vaNakkam! :)

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Originally Posted by stranger

"kaRukodutthu!" does not make sense, SN! :)

"enakku kaRRu kodungaL (or) enakku kaRRu thaarungaL, please?" would be polite!

nanRi, vaNakkam! :)

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seri. nanRi, stranger. If AJ and Raveen from old FH had seen this thread and my sincerity in learning Tamil, I think that they would not doubt me. :wink:

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Please

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The word in Tamil for "please" is "thayavuseydhu"!

I remember when I first became interested in Tamil... It was seeing Tamil dances, hearing Tamil songs and music, hearing Tamil spoken, seeing Tamil scripts all on the TV that first sparked my interest in Tamil back in 1992. In later years, I saw these on Internet and in the Ganesh temple. That time, I already had full blown interest in Hindu culture and religion which since then, I adopted. By 1995, I had full interest in Tamil. In 1996, I got in contact with various Tamil speakers and they put me in contact with other Tamil speakers and over the next few years, I obtained various Tamil language materials ie: Tamil alphabet books, Tamil magazines, Tamil newspapers, books etc... Since then, Tamil language and culture has become a very important part of my life.

thamizh vaazhga, vaaLarga thamizh! :D

What does "pongu thamizh" mean?

skanthan,
Just out of curiosity..what is your mother tongue? You dont need to answer if you dont wantto.I would totally understand.
I assume you are not a tamilian and to see a person who has not been involved with tamil from childhood get so involved with learning it is awesome.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by skanthan

What does "pongu thamizh" mean?

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pongu thamizh = prospering/growing/flourishing Tamil ! :)

Done raj.

Ini ezhuthu nadai patRi mattum pEsuvom

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Originally Posted by ssanjinika

skanthan,
Just out of curiosity..what is your mother tongue? You dont need to answer if you dont wantto.I would totally understand.
I assume you are not a tamilian and to see a person who has not been involved with tamil from childhood get so involved with learning it is awesome.:thumbsup:

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ssanjanika,

My mother tongue is English. I think that in past births, I was a Tamil living in South India and later in Sri Lanka.. I have had people tell me that on the outside, I am English/Canadian, but, inside, in my heart, I am a true Tamil. I do not know if they said this just to flatter me, or, if they feel that in heart and spirit, I am a Tamil. I can also sing Tamil bhajans.

I will post more of my Tamil lessons later today.

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I do not know if they said this just to flatter me,

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May be, but you do flatter us now by quoting that right here! :D

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I do not know if they said this just to flatter me,

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May be, but you do flatter us now by quoting that right here! :D

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I am happy to know that! :)

ennudaiya nenjilil, naan oru thamizhan!! :D

How do you say these following in Tamil?

If...

If I keep practicing, I will speak Tamil fuently.

For... Interested... Nearly...

I have been interested in Tamil for 10 years.

I have been going to Ganesh Temple for nearly 10 years.

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Originally Posted by stranger

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I do not know if they said this just to flatter me,

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May be, but you do flatter us now by quoting that right here! :D

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I am happy to know that! :)

ennudaiya nenjilil, naan oru thamizhan!! :D

How do you say these following in Tamil?

If...

If I keep practicing, I will speak Tamil fuently.

For... Interested... Nearly...

I have been interested in Tamil for 10 years.

I have been going to Ganesh Temple for nearly 10 years.

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//If I keep practicing, I will speak Tamil fuently.//

Practice seithu kondu irundhal Tamil nandraga peaaasuveen!! :lol: :lol:

Adhavadhu, Pairchi seithu kondu irundhal Tamil nandraga pesugen!!


//For... Interested... Nearly...//

- pls someone


//I have been going to Ganesh Temple for nearly 10 years//

Naan Ganesh Kovilukku kadandha patthu aandugalaaga sendru kondu irukireen

For- atharku
Interst- eedupaadu
Nearly- Kittathatta

Pls correct me if am wrong...

Dev is right.

Context of interest matters.

Interest is eedupaadu
Interested is... eedupaadu-udaiya...

Interested thing....... eedupaadu-udayathu
Interested person....... eedupaadu-udayavan

I am interested ....... enakku eedupaadu uLLAthu.

I like how this thread is coming along! :thumbsup:

Please tell me if these are correct.

I wil have - naan iruppEn.
you will have - nee iruppaay
(Respect.) - nee iruppeergaL
He will have - avan iruppaan
She wil have - avaL iruppaaL
(Respect.) - avar iruppaar
They wil have - avargaL iruppaargaL
We wil have - naam(naangaL)* iruppOm

naam is used when the person being spoken to is included, naangaL when the person being talked to is not included.

Please note: I and Shanthi used the lesson sheets from www.tamilclass.com . Maybe we can use these same sheets here! :D

If depends on how 'have' is used. Assume 'I will have (something).

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Originally Posted by skanthan

Please tell me if these are correct.

I wil have - naan iruppEn. -ennidam irukkum
you will have - nee iruppaay -unnidam irukkum
(Respect.) - nee iruppeergaL -ungaLidam irukkum
He will have - avan iruppaan -avanidam irukkum
She wil have - avaL iruppaaL -avaLidam irukkum
(Respect.) - avar iruppaar - avaridam irukkum
They wil have - avargaL iruppaargaL - avargaLidam irukkum
We wil have - naam(naangaL)* iruppOm - engaLidam irukkum


Please note: I and Shanthi used the lesson sheets from www.tamilclass.com . Maybe we can use these same sheets here! :D

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Please do not copy anything from other websites. If there is a website for learning Tamil, the owners of the website expect people to visit their website to learn Tamil.

Okay rajraj,

naan adhai seyya maattEn!

How do you say these?

I learned
You learned
You (respective) learned
He learned
She learned
He/She(respective) learned.
They learned
We learned

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Originally Posted by rajraj

I wil have - naan iruppEn. -ennidam irukkum
you will have - nee iruppaay -unnidam irukkum
(Respect.) - nee iruppeergaL -ungaLidam irukkum
He will have - avan iruppaan -avanidam irukkum
She wil have - avaL iruppaaL -avaLidam irukkum
(Respect.) - avar iruppaar - avaridam irukkum
They wil have - avargaL iruppaargaL - avargaLidam irukkum
We wil have - naam(naangaL)* iruppOm - engaLidam irukkum.

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I had something - ennidam irundhadhu
You had something - unnidam irundhadhu
(respect) - ungaLidam irundhadhu
He had something - avanidam irundhadhu
She had something - avaLidam irundhadhu
(respect) avaridam irundhadhu
They had something - avargaLidam irundhadhu
We had something - engaLidam irundhadhu

Please tell me what is the difference between naangaL and engaL.

Naangal = we
Engal = Ours

Thank you dev.

Tamil is soooo sweet! :D

I have something - ennidam irukiRadhu
You have something - unnidam irukiRadhu
(respect) - ungaLidam irukiRadhu
He has something - avanidam irukiRadhu
She has something - avaLidam irukiRadhu
(respect) - avaridam irukiradhu
They have something - avargaLidam irukiRadhu
We have somthing - engaLidam irukiRadhu

hey wow this is the type of step by step i needed!
I always find myself having to insert english word instead or floundering for a mispronounced tamil word...when i think of writing in tamglish i find my pronounciation even worse....and very comical for others :oops:

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Originally Posted by skanthan

Okay rajraj,

naan adhai seyya maattEn!

How do you say these?

I learned ..............................naan kaRREn
You learned...........................nee kaRRAi
You (respective) learned.......neengaL kaRReergaL
He learned............................avan kaRRAn
She learned...........................avaL kaRRAL
He/She(respective) learned...avar kaRRAr
They learned.........................avargaL kaRRArgaL
We learned............................naangaL/nAm kaRROm

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Skanthan: You can also use,

kaRRukkoNdEn
kaRRukkoNdaai
kaRRukkoNdeergaL
kaRRukkoNdaan
kaRRukkoNdaaL
kaRRukkoNdaar
kaRRukkoNdaargaL
kaRRukkoNdOm
respectively!

I think I really like the words, katRukondEn, katRukkondaay etc... Since I have been learning Tamil both from Shanthi and through the sheets from www.tamilclass.com , I have found that not only was I learning alot in Tamil, but also alot of new words etc were coming to me naturally, based on what I already had learned.

ie: when rajraj typed the future tense phrases, ennidam irukkum, engaLidam irukkum etc.. I came to know naturally what was the past and present tense forms of these phrases.

raj, dev and other tamizh arinjargaL,

the word we use to convey "sate" is

'thirupthi'

I think its sanskrit. iTS ACTUALLY SAID AS 'thrupthi' rather than 'THIRUPTHI'

Since Otrezhuthu cant come as first letter, do we say
'thirupthi'?

Its actually 'thrupthi' aint not?

Small hitch Skanthan,
What kind of tamil you want to learn casual speaking tamil or pure tamil? be sure of it.Because if you speak pure tamil to a person in Tamilnadu (Eventhough its correct) they will think that you got escaped from Keezhpakkam.Like if you want to know about bus route then

Pure Tamil
Nanbarey! Indha perundhu adayar selluma? vazhithadam sollungalyen

Colloq tamil (Which is n normal use)
Boss! indha bus-u adayar poguma? Enna route-u?

Becks,

That's not colloq tamil...it's colloq tanglish...

I happen to hear better colloq tamil here in SG than that we hear in India... Inga Tamil-a tamil-aa persurangappa...:)

Beckham,

:lol2:

dev,

I assume that the Tamil which I learned from Shanthi and from here is same as the Tamil taught in the Tamilclass website. It looks like I am learning the same Tamil as what I was learning from Shanthi and from the above mentioned website. If I get started with the Tamil that is commonly taught and spoken and then get into colloquial Tamil, it will save me ALOT of confusion.

What's OtRezhutthu???

yeah... true skanthan... go ahead...:)

Neengal Ungal payanathai thodarungal...:)

skanthan,
Why don't you start learning Tamil using daily activities from the time you wake up! Example:
I woke up at 6 AM = naan (kaalai) aaRu maNikku ezhundhEn.

shakthi: Yes! It is sanskrit. In Tamil it is thirupthi.

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Originally Posted by rajraj

skanthan,
Why don't you start learning Tamil using daily activities from the time you wake up! Example:
I woke up at 6 AM = naan (kaalai) aaRu maNikku ezhundhEn.

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This seems to be a good idea...

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Neengal Ungal payanathai thodarungal...:)

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What does this mean?

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Originally Posted by dev

Neengal Ungal payanathai thodarungal...:)

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What does this mean?

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You(neengaL) continue(thodarungaL) with your(ungaL) journey (payaNam) [of learning Tamil].

devin aalOsanaikkuRitthu... naan adhai aalOsanaiyai muyaRchi seyvEn.