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As I have already pointed out, there were 70 Paripaadals in the original compilation of the Third Sangam. Out of which, only 22 intact songs and other songs from other sources are available.
Out of these twenty-two songs, six are dediacated for ThiruMaal; eight for Murugan; and eight for Vaigai River.
Those songs which have been dedicated to Vishnu, talk about His avatharams, His Divine Beauty, and proclaims that Visnu is the Omnipotent, Almighty, Supreme God and the Thirumurthithis are all embodied within Him.
The songs dedicated to the Vaigai River, eulogise the flooded flow of the mighty Vaigai which overflows the banks and is filled with swirls and foams and bubbles; the crowds of men and women who come to take picnic baths and their joyous shoutings; and the gossiping pretty lasses.
I am giving an English version of the eighth Paripaadal which is dedicated to Murugan.
It deals with the birth of Murugan. It will be seen that this Paripaadal version is rather different from the version that is commonly known and the version from Kandha Puranam.
It should be borne in mind that the Paripaadal version is more ancient than whatever is found in other literature.
ParipAdal
O Lord Muruga! You rode upon the elephant called PiNimugam, with the speed that smashed the ocean rocks into smithereens; SUrapanman had changed himself into a huge tree. You cut that tree to its very roots. The Mountain called Graunca was the embodiment of a fierce asura; this was situated in the north of NAvalam ThIvu. You smashed it and created a way. O Muruga with the six faces.
"You were born in the Lotus blossom with six heads and twelve arms and handsomely coloured like the sun. O Son of the Destroyer of the worlds! O SevvEL! Possessor of every greatness". These are the VeRi hymns which praise you thus. Those praises are neither true or false. Because You are the Supreme Lord of these worlds. You are praised by those virtuous beings of high birth and by those who were born low because of the sins that they had commited. All these happen due to your Divine order. This greatness will never disappear.
Lord Siva destroyed the Three Flying Forts called ThiriPuram; he went on a chariot that was the world; it was drawn by four horses which were the VEdas; it was driven by Brahma. Lord Siva's bow was the Mount MEru and the great serpent was the bow string. He destroyed them with a single fiery missile. He eats the VELvi offerings made by the dEvas. That God joined with the Goddess and enjoyed erotic bliss; thus a Divine ovum was created. Because Indra asked Siva, the ovum was cut into many pieces. The pieces were received by the Seven Divine Rishis who poured them into the VELvi fire. Later the six KArththigai Damsels ate it. Thus they were impregnated and delivered You upon the Lotus blossom of Saravana Poygai.
O Lord Muruga of Great Name! As the KArththigai damsels delivered You thus, Indra cut You with his Vajra weapon. Hence You took six forms and later became one.
While You were an infant You played at warfare and Indra witnessed this and being surprised that You could perform such a thing bare-handedly, he decided that such a person as You with such awesome power should lead the army of dEvas; The God of Fire gave You the cockerel and Indra himself gave You the peacock. Yama gave You a ram. Thus other dEvas followed suit and gave You as arms the ram, the cockerel, the peacock, bow, shield, sword, spear, battle-axe, pike, fire, garland, and bell. These You bore in Your twelve arms. And You became the Supreme Commander of the army of dEvas at such a tender age. Thus You exceeded the limits of the fame and glory of Indra himself.
! Those evil-hearted people who cause misery to other lives; those fameless people who do not follow dharmic paths; those immoral people with false apprearance of holiness; those wisdomless people who deny rebirth, heaven, hell, and liberation; these are the people who will never attain the shadow of Your holy feet. Those people who do not fall into any of these categories but who are of high moral values, who follow the dharmic paths and those who are saluted by people of great penance, these are the people who will attain the shadow of Your feet.
Hence, it is not material riches and enjoyment that we beg and ask from You; but blessings, love, and dharma are the three boons that we seek from you. Grant us these, O Wearer of the garland of Kadappam blossoms which resemble the wheels of a chariot!
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Continue the discussion. Let's not stop.
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Murugadas Sir
Hope you are well.Please continue this thread.
I will do so.
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Murugadas Sir
Good to see a response from you.I was afraid that you were not well.This wonderful thread can now continue!
It will. It will:-)
The second of the Murugan Paripaadals is rather curious.
It is dedicated to ThirupparanggunRam.
It is to be seen that ThirupparamkunRam is quite an ancient Murugan Thalam. Because it was already around during Sanggam Age.
At present, there is a temple in ThirupparamkunRam which is the Murugan Temple. It is on the southern side of the hill.
But during the ancient times, the Murugan shrine was on the northern aspect of the hill.
It was during the time of Thirumalai Nayakkar that the shift to the southern side took place.
He renovated and refurbished the Minnaatchi Temple at Madurai and reorganised its administration.
All the festivals were rearranged. New festivals were introduced.
During the course of all those activities, the shifting of the Murugan Temple also took place.
Originally the present temple was dedicated mainly to Shakthi; other four murthis also had their place together.
It is an Early Pandya rock-cut temple. It is now considered a Murugan Temple. But the other deities are also there.
In and around ThirupparamkunRam, were lush forests and fields.
The second Murugan Paripaadal describes the beauty and greatness of ThirupparamkunRam.
It describes a peculiar incident that took place.
Quite an interesting one too:-)
Gives an insight into the social behaviours and customs of the times.
Let us see what it is all about.....
To know more about the works of Thirumalai Nayakkar and the shifting of the ThirupparanggunRam Murugan Temple, please refer to the Agathiyar Yahoogroups archives where the whole thing is dealt with in a thread called 'nAyakkar kattaLai'.
The thread is in Tamil.
Please narrate this peculiar incident.ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by murugadas
The Paripaadal book by Saiva Siddhantha Publishing House, is the one that I use. It is in Kuala Lumpur:-)
I have UVS editted version in Sungai Petani. I was thinking it would be better to use the same book.
The Saiva Siddhanta published book is rather difficult.
Even the 'urai's need the meaning to be given. Something like the bhashyam for bhashyam:-)
I will be proceeding with the work sometime next week. Please bear with me.
It has been a duty that I have given myself and carried out these three years.
I must do it.
Murugadas Sir
Hope you are fine.Please continue this thread.Thanks
This needs some careful reading.
Perhaps two or three times.
Only then, the social aspects and beleif-systems of the ancient Tamils involved would be understood.
Many things would seem queer and strange.
The eighth song of Paripaadal is dedicated to Murugan.
Nallandhuvanaar composed the poem and Maruththuvan nal Achchudhanaar composed the music.
The opening passages describe ThirupparanggunRam.
"O Lord who possesses the vEl which split the Mount Kraunca, O Prime Lord!
ThirupparanggunRam is the place which proves itself suitable for VishNu, Sivan, Brahma, the twelve Aadhithyas, the eight vasus, the eleven Rudras, the eight lords of the cardinal directions, other dEvas, asuras, and munivars to worship you on the Earth. Hence it is equal to the Himalayas.
The fresh water spring in ThirupparanggunRam is equal to the SaravaNa poygai which brought you forth. The noise of the clouds in that hill resemble the trumpeting of your elephant PiNimugam.
When the cockerel in your banner heard that noise, it crew. Other elephants trumpeted. Hence the crevices in that hill resounded with echoes.
In the pathway between Madurai and ThirupparanggunRam, bees and beetles buzzed musically, sounding like the flute and lyre. Various flowers like konRai and kaanthaL, flowers of creepers and the fresh water spring plants blossomed and spread their fragrance. The soft southern breeze carried all this fragrance. The pathway is of this nature.
The drums of Madurai city rumble. Whenever they rumble thus, your hill produces echoes.
The bees sent as messengers by love-lorn heroines, let their loves be known at Madurai. The heroes of Madurai answered their calls and came to them.
One such hero came from a city sector harbouring brothels.
He wanted to dispell the anger that his heroine might have.
He said, " ThirupparanggnRam has the capacity of producing love based on kaLavu - stealth, and proper love without interuption".
The heroine heard this.
"Hey! The smell of alien women emanates from your body now! You leave me in the morning because you want to make love with them. And then you come back to me in the evening. Therefore, you must break that lock of pledge(suuL - Ýû) that you made to me", said she.
The hero said, "O Woman with flowery eyes! I pledge upon the backwaters of Vaigai here. I pledge upon the cool hillside of ThirupparanggunRam. I pledge upon the Brahmans. What you say does not apply to me. The smell that emanates from my body is caused because my body is swathed by the breeze which wafts among the fruits and flowers of ThirupparanggunRam and carries their fragrance.
Therefore dont be upset".
The heroine said, "Release me from your pledge".
The heroines friend who was with her said, "Hey you! I am telling you one thing. Stay! Stand where you are, until I finish what I have to say. Then you pledge. You unfit son borne of lowly parents! This girl here, might die if she is afflicted by your false pledge. She is the only girl of her mother. She may have hardships because of your false pledges".
Whne the hero heard this, he said, "Is it so! Is she the only daughter to her mother? Is she such a rare and valuable person? I never knew until you told me".
The he continued, "See here. I am now touching the sands of Vaigai. I am touching the foot of the hill ThirupparanggunRam.
The maid friend who heard this replied, "If you pledge like this, the deities belonging to Murugan and His vEl weapon will make tou suffer. You may pledge, touching the feet of Brahmans; but never make such pledges upon the peacock and the vEl of MurugaveL. You are pledging by VaLLi also. Hereafter do not pledge like this. And also dont pledge by the sands of Vaigai and ThirupparanggunRam!"
The man said:
" O bejewelled pretty girl!
Who leaves? Who returns? Who asks? Who answers?
We are like the single soul of a two-headed bird. How can separation and return, questions and answers arise between us? You are not giving it a thought and accusing that the pledge that I make is terrible and done without justification. This girl with eyee and lips like the flowers of neydhal and naRavam and with lustrous forehead and white teeth......the allegation that she made against me is neither true, nor is it a dream. It is untruth. Even though I am faultless, she creates anger within herself and through that anger, she tries to judge my morality and that would be discarded by god. Therefore do not do that, O Maid!
You go to His feet and worship Him and thus praise and pacify Him.
O servants of mine! Carry my sayings and spread the word around.
Let us all go to ThiruparanggunRam where everybody worships the feet of Murugan and let us spread flowers there. Let us make offerings. Let us sing with rhythm. Let us sound the kiNai drum".
When the maid heard this, she retorted, "Hey man! You ask me to go and praise and pacify Murugan. Thus we know the sin of false promise befalling you. The power of Murugan shames and discards the order of death itself; before the mind of such a Murugan changes, this heroine would ring the bells and worship Murugan and thus abate the dangers that would befall because of your false promises and pledges. You will witness that she would be doing it as and when you think of enjoyment with alien women and go to their lairs".
The heroine did as her maid said and worshipped, praised, and pacified Murugan so that her husband would not meet with any hardships.
On the path that goes from Madurai to ThirupparanggunRam, can be seen people with intention of going an worshipping Murugan; they take forth snadalwood, article for fragrant smoke, lamps which would not be put out by wind, fragrant flowers, big drums, belles, lasoos, peacocks,axes, piNimugam elephants, and such like which are befitting and liked by Murugan.
They reach ThirupparanggunRam and worship. They worship for many types of purposes. Young girls ask, "I dreamt that I embraced and talked with my lover. Let not that dream falsify. Let it happen. Let my lover experience it as realiity and let the Vaigai river flow with new waters so that my lover bathes in it"
Many others would pray, "Let us be fruitful and pregnant", and offer many objects.
"Let my husband win in the war that he has undertaken", pray the ladies of leaders.
Correction:
going an worshipping - going and worshipping
snadalwood - sandalwood
article for fragrant smoke - articles for fragtant smoke belles - bells
lasoos - lassoes
There were those that sing and had rhythmic accompaniment: and those that danced and had all sorts of instruments be beaten and played; added to that there was the echo that rose from the hill. This raised a great noise.
There were girls and women who jumped into the fresh-water springs. They had eyes, faces, hands and feet like the lotus; mouths like the 'aambal' flowers; and had sharp teeth.
Their apparels and jewels mingled with those which were worn by their husbands.
They offered to those women, aphrodisiac drinks prepared by maids, together with luscious food prepared by professional cooks.
O ThirupparanggunRam! Such inseparable couples and those who seek boons and blessings, come together and worship at the temple of the Son of Siva and Umai; He who is seated beneath the kadamba tree. Even if rains fail causing the earth to suffer, your springs and rivulets abound with fresh water. Let that prosperity be persistant and eternal".
Murugadas Sir
What is this pledge(SUUL)? Is it something related to fidelity of married couples? If this pledge is broken, will one of the couple suffer hardships?
'SuuL uraiththal' was a special form of pledge.
Normally it had three components.
1. Upon this this god, lord, own son, own wife's maangalyam, honour, kind, country, eight dik paalakar, earth, akaashavaani, holy mountains, seven rivers, seven seas, etc.
They bear witness.
2. The subject matter of pledge - marriage, fidelity, perfroming a certain act, fulfillment of an objective, maintaining honour, meeting adead-line, etc. The sky is the limit for this.
3. What will befall if the pledge was broken or could not be dealt with. And also what they will do, if the pledge is broken.
Divine wrath, curse, procuring a sin are some of the things that were beleived to result from the breaking of the pledge.
When a pledge was broken or could not be fulfilled, usually the maker of the pledge would commit ritualistic suicide.
For further details about 'Ritualistic Suicide' please refer to the following URL -
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/Choir/4262/navkanta.htm
Things also would go wrong. Curses also were beleived to be incurred.
Anger of the gods was one thing that people were very scared of.
I will a few examples of pledges later in the morning.
There is a temple called Sivapuri, in Sivaganggai District, about 40 km from Madurai. Its name is Thiru Thaan ThonRiisvaram. It is dedcated to the Siva of the same name. It is an ancient temple. It is actually a treasure house of rare historical information which is contained in itself and its inscriptions.
There are four inscriptions there which are noteworthy and one of them has often been quoted by historians.
The Empire of the Imperial Cholzas comprised of several kingdoms and many feudal lordships. In the north Pandya country there were several of such feudal lordships.
During Raja Raja Cholza's time, the Pandya country was almost entirely conquered. But the Pandyas were holding out in several places. Rajendra Cholza finally vanquished them and established Cholza rule directly. The Pandyan dynasty was abolished and in its place the Cholza princes were crowned as the Pandya kings. They took the name of the Pandyas for themselves. They were called Cholza-Pandyas. Rajendra Cholza took the extreme measure of Cholziyanisation of even the names - Pandyanadu became Rajaraja Pandi Mandalam, KeraLa Singga VaLa naadu became Rajendra Cholza VaLa naadu, Nirubha SEkhara ChathurvEdha Manggalam became Cholza MaarththaaNda ChathurvEdha Manggalam.
Throughout the rule of himself and his three sons and his grandson, this system was maintained, lasting for about 50 years. After that the Cholza lineage passed to the maternal grandson of Rajendra Cholza called Rajendra III or better known as KulOththungga I.
During the course of his rule, he relinquished direct control over several of the parts of Cholza Empire and gave greater autonomy to several other kingdoms. He also reestablished Pandya rule over Pandya country. In such places, he established military garrisons called 'padaiveedu's and 'nilaippuram's. His own officers and ministers were present everywhere overseeing everything. The Pandya king himself was advised by them. This system is known as a 'hegemone'.
In the midst of all this, four feudatories in North Pandya country made pacts and treaties of fealty among themselves.
They pledged that they would remain true and loyal to each other's lives, possessions, riches, and honour and uphold them. If they break the pledge would they incur the sin of slaughtering a cow on the bank of Ganggai and the sin of drinking liquor.
Chinna Marudhu Pandyan of Sivaganggai Seemai pade a proclamation in Thiruchi.
He proclaimed that anyone going against his proclamation would be equal to the hair on his private parts and also incur the sin eating cow's flesh and pork.
' They pledged that they would remain true and loyal to each other's lives, possessions, riches, and honour and uphold them. If they break the pledge would they incur the sin of slaughtering a cow on the bank of Ganggai and the sin of drinking liquor.'
Please read as:
'They pledged that they would remain true and loyal to each other's lives, possessions, riches, and honour and uphold them. If they break the pledge would they incur the sin of slaughtering a milche cow(kaaraam pasu) on the bank of Ganggai and the sin of drinking liquor'.
'He proclaimed that anyone going against his proclamation would be equal to the hair on his private parts and also incur the sin eating cow's flesh and pork.'
Please read as:
'He proclaimed that anyone going against his proclamation would be equal to the hair on his private parts and also incur the sin of slaughetring a milche cow on the banks of ganga and eating cow's flesh and pork'.
I saw some of the advertisements above this web-page.
What is a yanthra and how does it work?
Why would a person need a yanthra?
If a person has certain desires or needs which he cant overcome by his own human efforts, he would need to resort to metaphysical and paranormal means.
Manthra, Yanthra are all parts of the ways and means.
A person approaches another person who has mastered the arts of Manthra Saadhana. He states his problems.
The Sadhaka or practitioner works out the details of what yanthra is needed, if at all one is needed.
Then with proper rites, the specific yanthra is placed in aproper place and with due methods, the pujai or ritual is performed.
At the beginning a sankalpam is made wherein the reason for doing it is stated to gethr with full particulars of the person who needs it.
The 'manthra uru' is done with proper recitation of the manthra for a specific number of times.
At the end of the pujai, the 'phala' or fruits of the pujai are made over to yajamaan or the person in need.
Then the manthra impregnated yanthra is given to the person in need with the deity's blessings which are made over to the person.
The person gives the 'dhakshnai' gift or payment to the performer.
Due instruction as to where the yanthra must be kept, how it should be installed, what sort of initial pujai is needed, what sort of customary pujai is needed, whether some form of naivedhyam is needed, what flower, incence should be used.......
These have to be given.
This is a simplified version of the preparartion of a yanthra and how it is managed thereafter.
But this is how it should be done.
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I play all the jazz and do acrobatics and all sorts of jugglery like a publicly performing 'lambaadi' in this thread.
Even if a small crowd comes to this place its because of all these 'lambaadi' antics.
In the middle of this humble 'domba kuuththu', somebody else comes and makes his advertisement.
How is this?
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Adi Shankara is said to have installed a yanthra in Kamakshi Amman temple,Kanchipuram to calm down the anger of the Godess.
If it can calm down Godess anger,then it must be very powerful.
Regarding these ads,all pages in forumhub get those ads at the top. :)
Yanthras can be powerful. If done in the proper way.
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Regarding these ads,all pages in forumhub get those ads at the top.
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But the ads are very selectively put.
This thread falls under religion.
So religion-based ads are put here.
I would'nt say that they are accidentally put here.
Nor are they random.
We dont find advertisements on muiscal CDs or real estate or matchmaking here.
Its all commercialised religion.
Well..........
Its all a matter of choices.
Dear JayBee,
Glad to have you back. Pls continue to enlighten us.
The ads are served by Google, we have no control. It looks for keywords on a page and shows a related ad (targetted advertising). Sorry if that's obstrusive. The Hub has grown quite a bit and needs ads like Google's for survival.
Dr.JayBee
If you are interested, please join the Mahabharatha thread in the Misc section.We would like to know the philosophical meanings behind stories in Mahabharatha
Sir,
Please continue your posting in this topic.
Very interested in knowing more about our religion. Thanks
Dear Murugadas Sir
Please continue your posting on skandha sashti kavacham
Thanks