T.Rajender's Music

another romantic song

5. sollamathane intha manasu thudikkuthu..intha manasu thudikkuthu
kannalathan intha kaathal valaruthu..intha kaathal valaruthu

i think some of the good lyrics that TR wrote have become target of mockery owing to his unique perspective about picturising his songs where he tried a bit too much to butress his lyrics with the background sets!( in sollamaththane song,you can see actual heart models, not even the cliched heartin, strutting around.)while all that was a novel idea as far as representation went, it took away the seriousness in the lyrics.but still i think his style of music had a unique orchestration that struck a chord with the masses for sometime and also atleast initially, there was an attempt for quality lyrics.(oru thalai ragam) music indeed was a great reason for the big hits that his movies turned out to be.i'm remembered of KB's quote(rather intriguing) about TR-"he has reached a height in cinema were we all can only aspire to be".interesting isn't it?

Though TR wrote some junk songs and picturised the songs in a silly manner, he surely did have some quite good talents in music/lyrics. I wish he just concentrated on story/lyrics/music and let somebody do the direction (atleast acting). He got too confident I think. He is a good example of over-confidence killing somebody.

Of his songs I liked his 'vaigai karai kARRE nillu, vanji thanai pArththAl sollu'.

Maybe he should start writing lyrics for IR. IR really needs some good lyrics writers. VM is an ace up ARRs sleeve. A few months ago when I was is in TN everybody was telling me how VM has been a support to ARR. Not to mention directors like ManiRatnam who have sense of aesthetics who can picturise the songs very well.

To do justice to TRs talents (however he made a laughing stock of himself) we should compile a list of his hit songs.

Kiru,
Rather, VM was all set to take revenge on IR,but has been failing consistently.

ARe we going away from the topic!!??

Guess What?

T Rajendar has realised that in order to get some of his investment money back, he has to cater to a wider audience and has gone ahead and dubbed the songs from his new film 'Monisha En Monalisa' in Hindi (titled Monisha Meri Dilruba!!!). Last heard, he was going around looking for prospective distributors in Bombay for his film as well as its music, carrying a 100 kg album containing photographs from his 'MEGA-SET venture'. Apparently, he has roped in mostly Hindi actors (read flop TV sidees) for the lead roles in the film. Apparently, he hasn't found any buyers yet.
You'll never know, he may hit the jack-pot! (Some of the stills that I saw were obscene!)

I have a feeling that if he makes another Oru Thalai Ragam kind of film (low-budget, down-to-earth love story, with some very soft music), he may stage a come back, what with all the KAADHAL films becoming big hits, with their so called 'novel' story ideas!!!

He could contribute to TFM by penning some good lyrics for outside productions, as suggested by Kiru.

UV, Re: IR vs VM. Whatever be the differences I feel its a loss to TFM that these two guys are not working together.

Neels, TR did a good job with O T rAgam. TR's early life is like that of any kid in TN. He tried to screen slide films etc with film stills cut from movie reels. I also did this using a hollowed out bulb filled with water as lens and my light source was a mirror positioned against stones.
But he had the motivation, perseverance to make this dream, kid stuff come true. I will always remember him for this.

But he went nuts over his ability to do direction and umpteen things. People dont understand its all a matter of priorities. You do what you like the best and then count on team work for better overall output.

Kiru(ba),

A small digression

> But he went nuts over his ability to do > direction and umpteen things

More than his direction is his acting.

i felt that even though TR's quality gradually receded in the eighties he did a good job for other producer's films. poo poova poothirukku, pookalai parikatheergal(?), irayil payanangalil and some others i can't remember. other than or thlaai ragam some of his other notable nos.

1. thinam thinam - thangaikor geetham

2. vaigai karai kaatre nillu - uyirullavarai usha?

3. pon maanai - mythili ennai kaathali

4. vaasam sindhum vannach cholai - poo poova poothirukku

5. ammadiyo aathaadiyo- in those days a bi hit from oeu thaayin sabatham. its benn a long time, but i still remember the beats of the songs.

he has degraded rapidly in the 90s. his films were always amateurish, had obscene songs especially with younger unknown pairs( since our man had vowed not to touch any lady even in his screen life except his wife!!), kiddish dialogues
and complete lack of sophistication. his films looked like they were being made for the front benches, especially his films from the 80s.

idhellam poradhu endru avar maganoda adhigaprasangithanamaana acting vera!!

like bhagyaraj has done recently TR also should quit acting and should take up either music or direction perhaps as a full time option.

Vijay,

Enna solreenga? Bhagyaraj actinga vittuttaara? Avar latesta kooda oru padathula Naghma kooda duet paadinaarae (aiyaho... padam peru niyabagam varalayae!!!). Maybe, he has decided to quit acting after the film's debacle in the box office.

I will prefer TR to take up music instead of direction. He is a better musician than a director.

A small digression again. Avar maganoda attagasam thaanga mudiyalai. Eppadi paadagargalil oru GV.Prakasho adhu maadhiri nadippukku indha Chilambarasan. Also, one of TR's services to the Thamizh Film Industry is his introduction of Amala.

Maybe TR concentrated on his music in such a way that the songs will boost his son's image(?!), and that is the reason for the fall of his musical quality.

'Pookkalai Parikkadheergal' had some ok songs like 'kaadhal oorvalam angae", "pookkalaidhan parikkaadheenga".

Can anyone list all the good songs from the film "Rayil Payanangalil"?

Vasantha Kaalangal Isaindu Paadungal

is the only song in the film (IMO) that's quite listenable. It was sung by JayaChandran (if I remember correctly, it also had a PS version).
It used to remind me of a song in a similar genre, "Manjolai Kili dano" from Kizhakke Pogum Rayil, though the tunes had no similarity.

How about,

1. moongilae... paatisaikkum kaatralayai thoodu vitaen
2. vizhigal medayam, imaigal thiraigalaam, kaadhal naadagam arangil aerudhaam..

pae! those are the two beautiful song!!
How aout

Maalai enai vattuthu mana naalai manam theduthu from pookkalai parkkatheergal!!

Shunmugam
from the movie ' Rayil Payanangalil'

1. vasantha Kalangal Asainthu Padungal (jayachandran)
2.Vasantham Paadivara Vaigai Odivara (SPB)
3.------do--------------(SJ)
4.Amaithiku Peyar thaan Santhi(TMS)
5.Noolum illai Valum illai Vaanil Pattam viduvena(TMS)
still 2 more songs in that movie i forget those.

Hi,

I remember one good song from the movie "Oru Thalai Raagam" rendered well by KJY.

"kadavul vaazhum koyililae karpoora dheepam
kallai izhandha maadathilae muraari raagam
oru thalai raagam endha vagayinil..."

Hey, after going through this thread, I am able to find a lot of good TR songs. It is very unfortunate that this man was the one who gave a lot of junk songs inspite of being a good lyricist as well as an average MD. I think this guy is ok - he is trying to give original tunes - when compared to a lot other MDs who involve in "cut-and-paste" activities.

Hi,

Is that "Kadavul vaazhum..." song (Film : "Oru Thalai Raagam") rendered by KJY or JC?

"kaduvul vaazhum" by JC

Hi guys!

I used to like TR's songs. Not that I jumped for his songs but I used to just listen if something comes on the radio.

I used to feel his songs (when they are good) had continuity from one stanza to another which I very much expect in a song and which I mostly found missing in IR's music especially in the 80's. (Except a very few films).

I think he was a major influence for the success of 'PookkaLaipp ParikkaadheergaL' because the songs were very much in tune with the movie.

Some of TR's songs which I like:

1. Vaasamilla Malaridhu.(Oru Thalai Raagam) - I like this song just for SPB's college boy's voice!
2. Chinna Chinna Kanna (Kilinjalgal).
3. Vizhigal Medaiyaam (Kilinjalgal).
4. Adiye Vanitha Inge Vaadi (a very different song in those days - sung by PS, SJ and SPB in
the film 'Pookkalaithaan Parikkaadheergal').
5. Adi Ammaadi Chinna Ponnu (same film as above).
6. Indira Logathu Sundari Rathiri - pidikkave pidikkaamal irundhu piragu piditha song.
7. Erikk Karai Kathe Nillu - film marandhu pochu.
8. Pillainga Peruladhaan Thanga Vayiram Irukkudhu - I like this song just because PS sings it.
9. A song by I think SJ in Nenjil Oru Raagam.

Thanks.

Karthi,

No. 7 should read "Vaigai Karai Kaathe Nillu"
Singer: Yesudas; Film: Uyirullavarai Usha

Neels

Karthi,

Unga listla song no.8 enna padam?

I think 'Oru thaayin Sabathamm'

correct 'a' karthi

My TR favourites.

1. Aazhkadalil ThathaLithu (great tune, great singing by SPB)
2. Moongilile (same reasons as above)
3. Deva Logam Azhaithaalum (SJ & chorus) . One of the very best of TR. The song oozes romance.

Song 1. had the foll. lines.
Karaippol Kathirunthen
Nadhiyai Ethirparthirunthen
Kadhai maaridave Karai veru KandaaL
Kaala ALaigaLudan puthu karayaiKkandaaL
Athu Yen...

SPB -ai patri sollava vendum. Antha "Yen"-ai neetti muzhakki , Dhool , esp when the song ends.
A very talented artiste with a twisted mind.

Neils,

Thanks.

Shan, selvan,

Theriyalaye?

Sriram,

I'm sorry naa andha 1st paattu ketta madhiriye illa. Adha paadinaale enakku 'Moongilile' madhiridhaan paada varudhu. I didn't know 'Moongilile' was by TR. Nice song.

kaarthi, selvan: regarding, 'piLLainga pErula thaan thangam vairam irukkuthu' (possibly) frm 'oru thaayin sabatham', is it really by PS? I somehow remember of having seen a name "vidya" or "shri vidya" in the singers list of 'oru thaayin sabatham'???

TR was just next to IR in TFM in 80s
no doubt.

Kumar,
TR was next to IR in TFM in 80s ? Well, then IR occupied the first 20 places and TR must have been the 21st !

As a poet, T.Rajendar is the king of unrequited love in TFM. His songs effulged grief with overwhelming polarities and abundant irony—just listen to Idhu Kuzhandai Paadum Thaalaattu, Kurudaana Kavingyanukku, Megamthaan Idhil Mazhaiyae Illai. Compared to TR's romantic grandiloquence (amudham endra sollai aaraaichi seivatharkku avaniyil avalae avadhaaram; aval mugavadivai manam paarththapinnae andha pournamiyai avan rasippadhillai), VM's forlorn lyrics come off as adolescent exaggeration.

TR showed a healthy indulgence in word play (IdhazhkaL oorumadi, idhazh kaL oorumadi) that was frowned upon by listeners used to Kannadhaasan's mature subtlety. But anyone relishing in his craft gets my respect. Listen to the many spins on the word "Shanthi" in "Amaidhikku peyardhaan shanthi". While his high profile hits were mostly sad songs, his happy melodies had some great poetry in them—vasandha kaalangal isaindhu paadungal, vizhigal medaiyaam imaigal thiraigalaam, indhira loagaththu sundari all had some great imagery.

As a musician, he charmed us with simple light music (nenjam paadum pudhiya raagam), catchy folk tunes (adi neelach chelai ravikkayila) and occasional classical ones (oru ponmaanai naan kaana). Though he has always had a core group that followed his stuff, musically or lyrically the media never gave him the respect he deserved. Kumudham used to refer to him as Karadi Raajendar, as if Vaali and Kannadhaasan were handsome men, as if it ever mattered how a poet looked. "Nenjil Oru Raagam" remains one of those grossly overlooked soundtracks in TFM. "Rail Payanangalil" got a lot of airplay for it's worst song, "Ada Yaaro" but every other song in it was good. "Oru Thalai Raagam" is unquestionably a milestone in TFM history.

Neels,
It doesn't surprise me that ARR is a fan of TR. Have you listened to "Moham vandhu thaagam vandhu ennai azhaikka" SPB brings down the house with this hip-hop delight. I feel this and other fast songs like "Unnaiththaanae Azhaikkiraen" by SJ were way ahead of their time and were precursors for the fast tunes by ARR, Vidhyasaagar, and Yuvan Shankar Raja.

As Rail Payanangalil has many doubts surrounding it, let me list the soundtrack information:
1) Vasandha Kaalangal—P.Jeyachandran chorus
2) Vasandham Aadi Vara—S.Janagi
3) Noolumillai Vaalumillai—TMS
4) Vasandham Aadi Vara—SPB
5) Ada Yaro—SPB
6) Amaidhikku Peyardhaan Shanthi-TMS

It's easy to deride TR on his failures, but his accomplishments stand tall.

Udhaya,

Well written. Very good points. I really get pissed off when magazines like "Kumudham", "Vaaramalar", etc. call him 'karadi', 'achimachi director', etc. He is a very good lyricist but, unfortunately, he does not write lyrics for other MDs. It is unfortunate that many people remember TR only for songs like 'cut adippom cut adippom collegeukku', 'daidai digiridoi', etc while his gems are overlooked.

TR,
a person who grewup learning from the grass root, who can to do various things,
he is one among few MDs who gave Original music,
as far as i know he never lifted,
all were his original scores and he had a unique style, we can guess that it is TR's song.

I have met him few times in TNagar, very easy person to approach and we can discuss with him on any subject, he will talk in your wavelength.
,A honest artist

adding to the above,
In my collage days, our band has won first prize many times for his song... vasamilatha malaridhu...

SM,
Same sentiment here. Either he should write lyrics for other MDs or he should MD+lyric writing.
Its a pity he does not seem to be contributing to TFM anymore.
Udhaya, well-written. TR has been a very good influence. I enjoyed his songs those days. Probably will even now.
As a lover of the music by IR, I wish he would ask TR to write lyrics for him, as I like the poetry of TR.

My posting is not about TR's music. It is about his dialogs. I would watch his movie just to listen to his Tamil and the word games. It is like watching old movies where heaviness of the script was very important.

TR had qualitative achievements, no doubt on that (I have even said somewhere that ARR is a refined TR, esp. on use of percussion that is very different from IR's approach), but he (like ARR) had limited stuff which probably got exhausted in 10 or 15 films... his later contributions were not very imaginative, often repetitive, IMO!

His best, according to me, are
1. vasantha kAlangaL (Rayil payanangalil)
2. vAsamilla malaridhu (OT rAgam -could have avoided the repetition in interludes)
3. vizhikaL mEdaiyAm (kiLinjalkal)
4. indhira lOgaththu sundari (U Usha)
5. vaigaikarai katrE nillu (U Usha)
6. idhu kuzhandhai pAdum (OT rAgam)
7. indha malliga manasa (film's name forgotten..SJ sings energetically)

And there was this song from one of the Sivaji films in late 80s (co *ed by Sathyaraj), Sivaji acting as a Father, good music by our TR.

Devan Kovil Deepame, pAvam indha jeevane,
kazhuvai yetru nee siluvai sumakkiray,
undhan vazhiyil nAnum nadakkirEn.
...
ThattungaL thirakkappadum, kElungaL kodukkappadum
pAvangal mannikkappadum

Can somebody tell me the movie name?

Venkatesh,

The name of the movie is "MuthukkaL Moondru".

Thanks SM:-)

i think the following lines were penned by TR. anybody know what song/film the lines appeared?

"taNNIrukkuL mInazutAl kaNNIrinai yAraRivAr".

this is from mythili ennai kadhali

I think TR scored for another movie Pookkalai parikkadhir or something. Also Koolikkaaran was also tuned by TR

....also the harish starrer pookal vidum thoothu