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Wow. If this guy has a conscience, then living with himself anymore would be his greatest hell.
Idhai ellaam paakkanumnu namma thalai-la ezuthi irukku (as a metaphor only :P).
It is best to stay away from the self proclaimed people - andha kaalam elaam Ramanar-Nisargadatta oda mudinjuthu. The probability of finding a real person among those is tending towards zero today.
Guru brahma guru vishnu ... - indha shlokathai ippadi kevala padutharaanga :(.
Love and Light.
Btw who is that actress?! :twisted:
Some people say its Ragasudha who is staying in his ashramam.
Btw, last week Kumudham he said some thing like Pulangalai adakka koodadhu adhey samayam pulangalai nammai aala koodadhu, kudhirai kadivaalam pola irukka vendum.
Well :roll:
Thats Ranjitha. Innaiku dinakaran paperla padathoda potrukkan..
Ranjitha.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
http://www.nakkheeran.in/users/frmNews.aspx?N=28029
Oh :irked: Andha lady-ku thaan kalyanam aachula, her husband is in army?Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaybaskar
:) :|Quote:
Originally Posted by anbu_kathir
Spirituality and "self realisation"
is MARKETED
I feel so put off.
It happens cause ppl go to gurus seeking "SOLUTION" for material problems or desires and NOT TOWARDS "self realisation"
When u need self realisation, one would realise "GURU" would come to u, and this guru would probably be an ANONYMOUS quiet, SIMPLE living person in lot of cases. No big hype or big level talks owuld be marketed in MOST cases.
*DONT SEEK GURUs or swamis for material benefits. ask god. If ur karma desrves it it would be done. No MEDIATORS pls.
On the other hand if what u need is self realisation, SIT AND MEDITATE. CONQUER UR OWN SELF.
YOU ARE YOUR OWN GURU.
When u are a true seeker, right guru (remember a humble simple person), would come to u, u need not go to him.
http://images.google.co.in/imgres?im...26tbs%3Disch:1
Just look at these pics!!!
Nithyananda with so many other swamijis including dayananda saraswathi, swami chidananda ramakrishna math, AoL , and much more.
None can place or identify a quack??????
Nithyananda might have had siddhis, idhellaam yoga practice panna varadhudhaan. Realization is a different thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
Unmaiya irundha nimmadiya vaazhnthirukkalaam.
Definitely yes. sidhi. most swamijis who claim they have power do have siddis.Quote:
Originally Posted by anbu_kathir
realisation is not about sidhi and sidhu.
Thats why they ppl who want to quench desires or
sovle problems increasingly go to swamijis than to god, then...
As long as this keep happening, TIME AND AGAIN there is bound to be dissapointments to the general public on
what they seek from ppl who have siddis...and what they get.
......hmm....mm...
......
:shock: :oops:Quote:
Originally Posted by app_engine
Ennaya poruthavaraikum spirituality-a theditu poradhey theva illa.
Be true to your conscience, work hard, give atleast 1% of your earnings to charity, love and celebrate God, be happy, read good books. enjoy your life, never hate anyone - I am doing this, ennaya poruthavaraikum idhu thaan spirituality, God is with me!
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
http://www.vinavu.com/2010/03/03/charu-nithya-kumudam/
இதற்காக சாரு எவ்வளவு பணம் பெற்றிருப்பார்? கூச்சல் நிறைந்த டாஸ்மார்க் பாரில் ஒரு உன்னத தமிழ் எழுத்தாளனை குடிக்கவைத்து சித்ரவதை செய்யும் தமிழ் உலகோடு அற ஆவேசப் பகை கொண்டுள்ள அந்த எழுத்தாளன் ஒரு பெருங்கனவோடு இந்த காரியத்தை விருப்பத்துடனே ஏற்றிருக்க வேண்டும். :rotfl: ரிசல்ட் காட்டிய பின்புதான் பணம் என்பாதாகக் கூட அந்த ஒப்பந்தம் இருந்திருக்கலாம். ஒப்பந்தம் குறித்து சாருவே தெரிவித்தால்தான் உண்டு.[/b]
yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakthiprabha
eppadi patta oru uyartha nilayai(Guru), ippadi kevala padutharanga.
it is really disheartening to see such things. Degeneration is into
everything but this is more painful.
shankar,
The pain is for ppl who ACTUALLY seek the truth and probably dont even have gurus or dont even seek or want one.
And then after every such scandal, spirituality and curiosity for the same is looked down upon by many because of lack of understanding.
...
And the highest purpose of life getting joked upon is very disturbing.
exactly SP. it is because of such unscrupulous elements. It has become a fashion to call anyone a swamiji or any self styled name without any of them possessing even an iota of qualities that are required. But, they are much sought after and well marketed.
sad.
ஓஹோ, அப்படியா? நமக்கு இந்த மாதிரியான தேடல் இல்லாததால் விவரம் தெரிவதில்லை :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by jaiganes
மன அழுத்தம் நிறைய இருக்கும்போது மக்களுக்கு இப்படிப்பட்ட வடிகால்கள் தேவைப்படுகிறதோ என்னமோ...
Just off the phone with a friend in media. The original CD runs to 6 hours of horrible un publishable gory things.
6 copies mailed from USA and SunTV was the first to take the decision to air it.
2 more actresses are involved it seems.
USAla panni irundhaa pinni pedaleduthu iruppaanga. Ippo haridwar pakkamaa nepalathukku patchi parandhudumnu pesikaraanga.
I am not condoning it. I am rather sorry another "guru" has gone down the drain.
But, hold on....
Nothing illegal in what he did. He hasn't been actually charged with any violation of personal rights. It seemed consensual. No other women have come out with any accusations of rape etc or even breach of trust, including the actress in question.
Secondly, what an invasion of privacy! You cannot say just because a person has "come out" as a guru, he doesn't have any privacy left.
Rather sad, all around, whichever way you slice or dice it!
Yeah,Quote:
Originally Posted by Badri
it is OUTRAGEOUS!
invasion of PRIVACY!
Nobody denies that. He can file a law suit against Sun TV. That will only take to him to his "spiritual grave". His believers will bury him alive if he admits it is him who is having fun!
That's the pity! It is almost like a rape victim not wanting to come out and file a complaint, because it will only end up working against her!
Sad society that can violate a person's right to privacy, knowing they can do nothing about it!
Only such society believes in saamiyaar as God and that he can cure cancer. It is hard for him to "emerge or survive" in any other society but this "sad scociety".Quote:
Originally Posted by Badri
Ah! Well, since you put it that way, I must say I agree!
:exactly: The same here! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
Sridhar: One percent of the income for charity from NRIs? You don't know much about them! They are the most stingy on earth. They will give to temples but not to charities ! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
கடவுள் என்னோடு உள்ளார் -ன்னு நீங்க சொல்ல , ‘கடவுள் உங்களிடம் தான் உள்ளார்’ அல்லது ‘நீங்க தான் கடவுளே’ -ன்னு நாலு பேர் ஏத்தி விட்டு நீங்க ஆசிரமம் ஆரம்பிச்சுடாதீங்க சுவாமிஜி :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by 19thmay
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by joe
Well he dug himself a pit here - there is nothing sad about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badri
He proclaimed himself to be a God, preached greatness, practiced skullduggery and invited powerful enemies who did this to him. We the on lookers are just lucky to be one more 'Fake guru' exposed. That is the way the slice gets cut in the cut throat society and there are no two ways about it.
Joe,
:lol: Nalla idea thaan, part time-la try pannalaam. Jannalai thira, velicham varattum-nu oru thodar ezhudhalaam-nu iruken. :mrgreen:
Raj sir,
1% charity-ndra yosanai kooda ippo thaan erpattuchu, recession time-la illa. :lol:
When people adore somebody, fall in their feet, shower money etc, that somebody happily accepts "publicity" and doesn't crib about not having privacy etc, isn't it?
You cannot have the cake and eat it too.
If you want to be a celebrity adored by public and worshipped by millions, say good bye to privacy. Very simble:-)
If someone wants a reasonable amount of privacy, let him not "open the door" :-)
I am afraid that doesnt extend to the bedroom, app.
To some extent, yes, if you are in public life, be prepared for loss of privacy. But you cant barge into someone's bedroom quoting that logic.
True, Plum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
However, this character is supposedly practicing celibacy :-)
அதோட "கதவைத்திற"ன்னு வேற லட்சக்கணக்கானவர்களுக்கு உபதேசம் கொடுத்திருக்கார். அப்படி என்ன தான் இருக்குன்னு ஒரு க்யூரியாசிட்டில போயிட்டாங்க போல :-)
These things happen because the matadhipaths of the traditional hindu religions (shankaracharyas, saiva's) no longer speak the language of the masses and are enconsced in practices and activities which masses are not able to relate to.
If the traditional swamijis went around enquiring about the kind of questions the ordinary people have and answer them and try to answer them, people will not go after these self-styled gurus.
Yeah, the saamiyaar should fight for his rights. I am sure he is going get quite a bit of support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plum
Let us see what he does next.
He is more like God himself. Why cant he fight and win???
I think at present the only authentic well known guru would be Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev. I have known him for around 20 years --- I am not his disciple --- since my college days. One good thing I like with him is that he never advertised. I attended a lecture of his in Madras University in 1992-93. After that he left my radar. I was surprised to see him again in a website when the internet age arrived. But even then his presence on the internet came very late.... and only now he is popular , though he was into this for the past 20 years. I think he is authentic. I sometimes even have doubts about Sri Sri Ravishankar , there are some rumours about him on the internet, but he looks above board as of now, but I think Sadhguru is a decent fellow.
I would say, if you go on the path of seeking a Guru - then put him to all the tests like Swami Vivekananda did to find his Guru. Doubt is like a sharpened knife that is the only weapon that a disciple has got. Any guru who insists on lowering the knife before interacting is someone who is a fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by harishkumar09
Remember the scene from 'Enter the Dragon' when Bruce lee teaches a kid kung fu and after a training combat and it is time to go, the disciple bows his head taking his eyes off and bruce lee hits him in the head and tells - 'never let your gaze move away from the opponent' - Even if it is your trusted Guru - be always open to doubts, cultivate them pose them - Only a true Guru would be able to face all the doubts and come clean.
No offence meant to you or Mr Jaggi, but can you please highlight in what way he is the "only" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by harishkumar09
Also, while it's very easy to define 'pOli' sAmiyAr (means hypocrite - preaches one practices the opposite), it's not easy to define a real sAmiyAr (please refer the prior pages here or other related threads in this forum).
Since you're claiming someone to be "authentic", does it mean he sincerely believes in what he teaches and is also honestly trying to put them into practice? Even if that's true, that alone cannot make an individual automatically a "spiritual guru / sAmiyAr" :-)
IMO, a decent percentage of people do the same in various walks of life (including tons of moms in the kitchen, for e.g.) :-)
கொலை, கொள்ளை, காமலீலை, கற்பழிப்பு என்று சாமியார்கள் அவ்வப்போது மாட்டுவது எல்லா ஆன்மீகவாதிகளையும் அவர்கள் மேல் மக்களுக்கு உள்ள மரியாதையும் கேள்விக்கிரியாக்கி விடுகிறது. ஆனால், இந்தியா என்ற ஆன்மிக நாட்டில் பல ஆத்மசாதகர்கள் வாழ்ந்தார்கள், அவர்கள் இப்போது அரிதாகி விட்டாலும் சிலராவது இருக்கிறார்கள் என்பது நிஜம்.
இந்த சமயத்தில் சத்குரு ஜாக்கி வாசுதேவ் நடத்தும் ஈஷா யோகா மையத்தை பற்றி எனக்கு தெரிந்த சில:-
காமம் தவறு என்று இங்கு போதிக்கபடுவதில்லை. இங்கு சாமியாராக வரும் ஒருவர், எதிர் பாலில் உள்ள அதே போன்ற சாமியாராக வரும் இன்னொருவரை விருப்ப மனம் புரிந்து கொண்டு ஆசிரமத்திலேயே வாழ அனுமதி உண்டு. ஜாக்கி அவர்களும் இல்லற வாழ்வு வாழ்ந்தவர்தான். அவர் மனைவி சில வருடங்கள் முன்பு, ஆசிரமத்திலேயே, தன விருப்பத்துடன் ஜீவா சமாதி எடுத்துக்கொண்டார் என்று தகவல். இவர்களுக்கு பிறந்த மடலும் அந்த ஆசிரமத்திலேயேஇருக்கிறார்.
while most of the saamiyaars do not, or pretendt to keep away from ladies, jaggi wears jeans and coolers, and holds hands of pretty womans and dances publicly. another point of genuinety.
i dont know about other saamiyaars but hen it comes to isha yoga, all the money / fees they collect are given a bill eligible for Section 80C tax exemption
i too am not his follower but has a hope on him